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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>, <devel@openvz.org>,
	<linux-mm@kvack.org>, Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/13] kmem accounting basic infrastructure
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:46:02 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5069584A.8090809@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120930103732.GK10383@mtj.dyndns.org>

On 09/30/2012 02:37 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, James.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 09:56:28AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
>> The beancounter approach originally used by OpenVZ does exactly this.
>> There are two specific problems, though, firstly you can't count
>> references in generic code, so now you have to extend the cgroup
>> tentacles into every object, an invasiveness which people didn't really
>> like.
> 
> Yeah, it will need some hooks.  For dentry and inode, I think it would
> be pretty well isolated tho.  Wasn't it?
> 

We would still need something for the stack. For open files, and for
everything that becomes a potential problem. We then end up with 35
different knobs instead of one. One of the perceived advantages of this
approach, is that it condenses as much data as a single knob as
possible, reducing complexity and over flexibility.


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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, devel@openvz.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/13] kmem accounting basic infrastructure
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:46:02 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5069584A.8090809@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120930103732.GK10383@mtj.dyndns.org>

On 09/30/2012 02:37 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, James.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 09:56:28AM +0100, James Bottomley wrote:
>> The beancounter approach originally used by OpenVZ does exactly this.
>> There are two specific problems, though, firstly you can't count
>> references in generic code, so now you have to extend the cgroup
>> tentacles into every object, an invasiveness which people didn't really
>> like.
> 
> Yeah, it will need some hooks.  For dentry and inode, I think it would
> be pretty well isolated tho.  Wasn't it?
> 

We would still need something for the stack. For open files, and for
everything that becomes a potential problem. We then end up with 35
different knobs instead of one. One of the perceived advantages of this
approach, is that it condenses as much data as a single knob as
possible, reducing complexity and over flexibility.

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Thread overview: 323+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-18 14:03 [PATCH v3 00/13] kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 18:48   ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 18:48     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-18 14:03 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:03   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 19:00   ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 19:00     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 19:06   ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 19:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 19:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-02  9:10     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-02  9:10       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21 16:34   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-21 16:34     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-24  8:09     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-24  8:09       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-24  8:09       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 14:03   ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 14:03     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 14:03     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 14:33     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 14:33       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 16:01       ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 16:01         ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 16:01         ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 17:34         ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 17:34           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 16:36     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 16:36       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 16:36       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 17:36       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 17:36         ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 17:44         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 17:44           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 17:44           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 17:53           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 17:53             ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 18:01             ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 18:01               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 18:56               ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 18:56                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 18:56                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 19:34                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 19:34                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 19:34                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 19:46                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 19:46                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 19:56                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 19:56                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 19:56                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 20:02                       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 20:02                         ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 20:16                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 20:16                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 20:16                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 21:24                           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 21:24                             ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:10                             ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:10                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:10                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:29                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:29                                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:42                                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:42                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:42                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 22:54                                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:54                                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 23:08                                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 23:08                                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 23:08                                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 23:20                                       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 23:20                                         ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 23:33                                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-26 23:33                                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 12:15                                           ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:15                                             ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:15                                             ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:20                                             ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:20                                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:40                                               ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:40                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:40                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:40                                                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:40                                                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:40                                                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:54                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:54                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 14:28                                       ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:28                                         ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:28                                         ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:49                                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:49                                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:57                                           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 14:57                                             ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 17:46                                             ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 17:46                                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 17:46                                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 17:56                                               ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 17:56                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 18:45                                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 18:45                                                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-30  7:57                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30  7:57                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30  7:57                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30  8:02                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30  8:02                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30  8:56                                                     ` James Bottomley
2012-09-30  8:56                                                       ` James Bottomley
2012-09-30  8:56                                                       ` James Bottomley
2012-09-30 10:37                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 10:37                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 10:37                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30 11:25                                                         ` James Bottomley
2012-09-30 11:25                                                           ` James Bottomley
2012-10-01  0:57                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01  0:57                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01  0:57                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01  8:43                                                             ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01  8:43                                                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01  8:46                                                         ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-10-01  8:46                                                           ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-03 22:59                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:59                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01  8:36                                                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01  8:36                                                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:08                             ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:08                               ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:08                               ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 12:11                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 12:11                                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 14:33                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:33                                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:43                                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:43                                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:43                                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 14:58                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 14:58                                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 18:30                                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 18:30                                       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-30  8:23                                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30  8:23                                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01  8:45                                         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01  8:45                                           ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-03 22:54                                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:54                                             ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-04 11:55                                             ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 11:55                                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-06  2:19                                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-06  2:19                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-06  2:19                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-27 15:09                                 ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 15:09                                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-30  8:47                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30  8:47                                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01  9:27                                     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01  9:27                                       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-03 22:43                                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:43                                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:43                                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-05 13:47                                         ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-05 13:47                                           ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-05 13:47                                           ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 22:11                         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-26 22:11                           ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-26 22:11                           ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-26 22:45                           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-26 22:45                             ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:15   ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-18 14:15     ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-18 15:06   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-18 15:06     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-18 15:06     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-19  7:39     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-19  7:39       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-19  7:39       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-19 14:07       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-19 14:07         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-19 14:07         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-09-27 13:34   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:34     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:41     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 13:41       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 19:09   ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-01 19:09     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-20 16:05   ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-20 16:05     ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-20 16:05     ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-21  8:41     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21  8:41       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21  8:41       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21  9:14       ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-21  9:14         ` JoonSoo Kim
2012-09-26 15:51   ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 15:51     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-26 15:51     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 11:31     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 11:31       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 13:44       ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 13:44         ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 13:44         ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-28 11:34         ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28 11:34           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28 11:34           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-30  8:25           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-30  8:25             ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01  8:28             ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01  8:28               ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-03 22:11               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:11                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-03 22:11                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-01  9:44             ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01  9:44               ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01  9:44               ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01  9:48           ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01  9:48             ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01  9:48             ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 10:09             ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 10:09               ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 11:51               ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 11:51                 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 11:51                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 11:51                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 11:51                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 11:58                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 11:58                     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:04                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:04                       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:04                       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-27 13:50   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:50     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-28  9:43     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28  9:43       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28  9:43       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-28 13:28       ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-28 13:28         ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:52   ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 13:52     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-27 13:52     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] res_counter: return amount of charges after res_counter_uncharge Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 10:00   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 10:00     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 10:01     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 10:01       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:15   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:15     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:15     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:29     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:29       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:29       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:36       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:36         ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:36         ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:43         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:43           ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:43           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] memcg: use static branches when code not in use Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:25   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:25     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:27     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:27       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:27       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 12:30   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:30     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 12:30     ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] execute the whole memcg freeing in rcu callback Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-21 17:23   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-21 17:23     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-21 17:23     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-24  8:48     ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-24  8:48       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-24  8:48       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 13:27   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 13:27     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 13:27     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-04 10:53     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 10:53       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 10:53       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 14:20       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-04 14:20         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-05 15:31       ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-05 15:31         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-05 15:31         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-08  9:45         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-08  9:45           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-18 14:04   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-01 13:17   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 13:17     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-01 13:17     ` Michal Hocko

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