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From: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Kyungsik Lee <kyungsik.lee@lge.com>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, celinux-dev@lists.celinuxforum.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, hyojun.im@lge.com,
	chan.jeong@lge.com, raphael.andy.lee@gmail.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Florian Fainelli <florian@openwrt.org>,
	Yann Collet <yann.collet.73@gmail.com>,
	Chanho Min <chanho.min@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next 2/2] kbuild: fix for updated LZ4 tool with the new streaming format
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:45:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201307161145.27810.yann.morin.1998@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130716093820.GE4402@pd.tnic>

Borislav, All,

On Tuesday 16 July 2013 11:38:20 Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:32:39AM +0200, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> > That does not work in two cases:
> >   - older distros that do not have the tool packaged
> 
> This point is moot - distro kernels are built by the distro people.

It's not about building distro kernels. It's about building the current
kernel on a distro, for example for cross-compilation.

> >   - automatic test-harness that run thousands of randconfig a day
> randconfigs are not guaranteed to build successfully.

Well, mostly agreed. However, there was a request (in this thread) that
using such new tools that are not yet widely available in distros, does
not break randconfig.

This is a *new* requirement.

> > The idea is to be always have a .config that is buildable with the
> > current toolset of the system, especially for esoteric and/or recent
> > tools that are not packaged and/or installed by default by the
> > distros.
> How are you going to tell the user running make <something>config to
> install the missing tools?

As discussed with Florian in this thread, either one of:
  - a warning at check time
  - a comment in Kconfig

which both are easy enough to achieve. As I said earlier in this thread,
I've been using a similar scheme in crosstool-NG (which uses Kconfig as
its configuration infrastructure), and it has been proven effective
over the past feew years.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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From: yann.morin.1998@free.fr (Yann E. MORIN)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH -next 2/2] kbuild: fix for updated LZ4 tool with the new streaming format
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:45:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201307161145.27810.yann.morin.1998@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130716093820.GE4402@pd.tnic>

Borislav, All,

On Tuesday 16 July 2013 11:38:20 Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:32:39AM +0200, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> > That does not work in two cases:
> >   - older distros that do not have the tool packaged
> 
> This point is moot - distro kernels are built by the distro people.

It's not about building distro kernels. It's about building the current
kernel on a distro, for example for cross-compilation.

> >   - automatic test-harness that run thousands of randconfig a day
> randconfigs are not guaranteed to build successfully.

Well, mostly agreed. However, there was a request (in this thread) that
using such new tools that are not yet widely available in distros, does
not break randconfig.

This is a *new* requirement.

> > The idea is to be always have a .config that is buildable with the
> > current toolset of the system, especially for esoteric and/or recent
> > tools that are not packaged and/or installed by default by the
> > distros.
> How are you going to tell the user running make <something>config to
> install the missing tools?

As discussed with Florian in this thread, either one of:
  - a warning at check time
  - a comment in Kconfig

which both are easy enough to achieve. As I said earlier in this thread,
I've been using a similar scheme in crosstool-NG (which uses Kconfig as
its configuration infrastructure), and it has been proven effective
over the past feew years.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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.-----------------.--------------------.------------------.--------------------.
|  Yann E. MORIN  | Real-Time Embedded | /"\ ASCII RIBBON | Erics' conspiracy: |
| +0/33 662376056 | Software  Designer | \ / CAMPAIGN     |   ^                |
| --==< O_o >==-- '------------.-------:  X  AGAINST      |  /e\  There is no  |
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-16  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-06  8:42 [PATCH -next 1/2] arm: Remove enforced Os flag for LZ4 decompressor Kyungsik Lee
2013-05-06  8:42 ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-05-06  8:42 ` [PATCH -next 2/2] kbuild: fix for updated LZ4 tool with the new streaming format Kyungsik Lee
2013-05-06  8:42   ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-05-06  9:51   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-05-06  9:51     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-10  8:12     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-07-10  8:12       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-07-10  8:12       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-07-10  9:36       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-10  9:36         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-10  9:36         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-10 18:28         ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2013-07-10 18:28           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2013-07-10 18:28           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2013-07-10 18:28           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2013-07-10 20:01           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-10 20:01             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-10 20:01             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-10 20:01             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-11  4:34           ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-07-11  4:34             ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-07-11  4:34             ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-07-11  4:34             ` Kyungsik Lee
2013-07-11  9:46             ` [PATCH] .gitignore: ignore *.lz4 files Markus Trippelsdorf
2013-07-11  9:46               ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2013-07-11  9:46               ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2013-07-11  9:46               ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2013-07-12  7:56   ` [PATCH -next 2/2] kbuild: fix for updated LZ4 tool with the new streaming format Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12  7:56     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12  8:01     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-12  8:01       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-12 10:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 10:13         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 10:23         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-12 10:23           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-12 11:18           ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-12 11:18             ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-12 12:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 12:06               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 12:13             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-12 12:13               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-12 12:34               ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-12 12:34                 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-12 12:34                 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-12 12:46                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-12 12:46                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-12 12:46                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-15 22:03     ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-15 22:03       ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-15 22:08       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-15 22:08         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-16  7:47         ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-16  7:47           ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-16  7:56           ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-16  7:56             ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-16  8:08             ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-16  8:08               ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-16  8:27               ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-16  8:27                 ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-16  9:05                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-16  9:05                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-16  9:12                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-16  9:12                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-16  9:22                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-16  9:22                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-16  9:32                       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-16  9:32                         ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-16  9:38                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-16  9:38                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-16  9:45                           ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2013-07-16  9:45                             ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-16  9:59                             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-16  9:59                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-16 10:04                               ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-16 10:04                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-16 10:04                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-16 18:04               ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-07-16 18:04                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-07-17 21:16                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-07-17 21:16                   ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-07-17 21:44                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-17 21:44                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-17 22:30                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-17 22:30                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-17 23:22                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-17 23:22                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-18  8:02                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-07-18  8:02                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-07-18  8:02                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-07-18  7:22                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-07-18  7:22                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-07-18  7:22                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-07-18  7:34                       ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-18  7:34                         ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-18  7:34                         ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-18  7:47                         ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-18  7:47                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-18  7:47                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-18  7:52                           ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-18  7:52                             ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-18  7:52                             ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-18 20:47                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-07-18 20:47                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-07-16  9:13             ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-16  9:13               ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-16  9:13               ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-16  9:25               ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-16  9:25                 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-07-16  9:25                 ` Yann E. MORIN

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