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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <klamm@yandex-team.ru>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Allow guarantee reclaim
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:22:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140612132207.GA32720@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140611153631.GH2878@cmpxchg.org>

On Wed 11-06-14 11:36:31, Johannes Weiner wrote:
[...]
> This code is truly dreadful.
> 
> Don't call it guarantee when it doesn't guarantee anything.  I thought
> we agreed that min, low, high, max, is reasonable nomenclature, please
> use it consistently.

I can certainly change the internal naming. I will use your wmark naming
suggestion.
 
> With my proposed cleanups and scalability fixes in the other mail, the
> vmscan.c changes to support the min watermark would be something like
> the following.

The semantic is, however, much different as pointed out in the other email.
The following on top of you cleanup will lead to the same deadlock
described in 1st patch (mm, memcg: allow OOM if no memcg is eligible
during direct reclaim).

Anyway, the situation now is pretty chaotic. I plan to gather all the
patchse posted so far and repost for the future discussion. I just need
to finish some internal tasks and will post it soon.

> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 687076b7a1a6..cee19b6d04dc 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -2259,7 +2259,7 @@ static void shrink_zone(struct zone *zone, struct scan_control *sc)
>  				 */
>  				if (priority < DEF_PRIORITY - 2)
>  					break;
> -
> +			case MEMCG_WMARK_MIN:
>  				/* XXX: skip the whole subtree */
>  				memcg = mem_cgroup_iter(root, memcg, &reclaim);
>  				continue;
> 

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <klamm@yandex-team.ru>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Allow guarantee reclaim
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:22:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140612132207.GA32720@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140611153631.GH2878@cmpxchg.org>

On Wed 11-06-14 11:36:31, Johannes Weiner wrote:
[...]
> This code is truly dreadful.
> 
> Don't call it guarantee when it doesn't guarantee anything.  I thought
> we agreed that min, low, high, max, is reasonable nomenclature, please
> use it consistently.

I can certainly change the internal naming. I will use your wmark naming
suggestion.
 
> With my proposed cleanups and scalability fixes in the other mail, the
> vmscan.c changes to support the min watermark would be something like
> the following.

The semantic is, however, much different as pointed out in the other email.
The following on top of you cleanup will lead to the same deadlock
described in 1st patch (mm, memcg: allow OOM if no memcg is eligible
during direct reclaim).

Anyway, the situation now is pretty chaotic. I plan to gather all the
patchse posted so far and repost for the future discussion. I just need
to finish some internal tasks and will post it soon.

> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 687076b7a1a6..cee19b6d04dc 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -2259,7 +2259,7 @@ static void shrink_zone(struct zone *zone, struct scan_control *sc)
>  				 */
>  				if (priority < DEF_PRIORITY - 2)
>  					break;
> -
> +			case MEMCG_WMARK_MIN:
>  				/* XXX: skip the whole subtree */
>  				memcg = mem_cgroup_iter(root, memcg, &reclaim);
>  				continue;
> 

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-28 12:26 [PATCH v2 0/4] memcg: Low-limit reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26 ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 1/4] memcg, mm: introduce lowlimit reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26   ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 22:55   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-30 22:55     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02  9:36     ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02  9:36       ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 12:07       ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 12:07         ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 13:01         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 13:01           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 14:15           ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 14:15             ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 15:04             ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 15:04               ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 15:11               ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 15:11                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 15:34                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 15:34                   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 15:48                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 15:48                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 19:58                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 19:58                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 15:58       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 15:58         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 16:49         ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 16:49           ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 22:00           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 22:00             ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-05 14:21             ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-05 14:21               ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-19 16:18               ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-19 16:18                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 15:15               ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-11 15:15                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-11 16:08                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 16:08                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 13:29             ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-06 14:32               ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 14:32                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 15:21                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-06 15:21                   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-06 16:12                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 16:12                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 16:51                     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-06 16:51                       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-06 18:30                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 18:30                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 19:55                         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-06 19:55                           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] memcg: Allow setting low_limit Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26   ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 3/4] memcg, doc: clarify global vs. limit reclaims Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26   ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 23:03   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-30 23:03     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02  9:43     ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02  9:43       ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 19:56       ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-06 19:56         ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 4/4] memcg: Document memory.low_limit_in_bytes Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 12:26   ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 22:57   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-30 22:57     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02  9:46     ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02  9:46       ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-28 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] memcg: Low-limit reclaim Roman Gushchin
2014-04-28 15:46   ` Roman Gushchin
2014-04-29  7:42   ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-29  7:42     ` Greg Thelen
2014-04-29 10:50     ` Roman Gushchin
2014-04-29 10:50       ` Roman Gushchin
2014-04-29 12:54       ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-29 12:54         ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 21:52 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-30 21:52   ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-30 22:49   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-04-30 22:49     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-02 12:03   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 12:03     ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-30 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-30 21:59   ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-02 11:22   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-02 11:22     ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 12:10 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 12:10   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 13:49   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 13:49     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 14:21     ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 14:21       ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 15:28       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 15:28         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 15:54         ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 15:54           ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-28 16:33           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 16:33             ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-03 11:07             ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-03 11:07               ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-03 14:22               ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-03 14:22                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-04 14:46                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-04 14:46                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-04 15:44                   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-04 15:44                     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-04 19:18                     ` Hugh Dickins
2014-06-04 19:18                       ` Hugh Dickins
2014-06-04 21:45                       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-04 21:45                         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 14:51                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 14:51                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 16:10                           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 16:10                             ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 16:43                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 16:43                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 18:23                               ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 18:23                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-06 14:44                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-06 14:44                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-06 14:46                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, memcg: allow OOM if no memcg is eligible during direct reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-06-06 14:46                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-06 14:46                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Allow hard guarantee mode for low limit reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-06-06 14:46                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-06 15:29                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-06 15:29                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-06 15:34                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-06 15:34                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-09  8:30                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-09  8:30                                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-09 13:54                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-09 13:54                                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-09 22:52                                       ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-09 22:52                                         ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-10 16:57                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-10 16:57                                           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-10 22:16                                           ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-10 22:16                                             ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-11  7:57                                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11  7:57                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11  8:00                                             ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, memcg: allow OOM if no memcg is eligible during direct reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-06-11  8:00                                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11  8:00                                               ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Allow guarantee reclaim Michal Hocko
2014-06-11  8:00                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 15:36                                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-11 15:36                                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-12 13:22                                                   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2014-06-12 13:22                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-12 13:56                                                     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-12 13:56                                                       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-12 14:22                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-12 14:22                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-12 16:17                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-12 16:17                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 12:59                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 12:59                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 13:57                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 13:57                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 14:04                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 14:04                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 14:12                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 14:12                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 14:29                                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 14:29                                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 14:40                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 14:40                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-12 16:51                                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-12 16:51                                                           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-16 13:22                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-16 13:22                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 15:20                                               ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, memcg: allow OOM if no memcg is eligible during direct reclaim Johannes Weiner
2014-06-11 15:20                                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-11 16:14                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 16:14                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 12:31                                             ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Allow hard guarantee mode for low limit reclaim Tejun Heo
2014-06-11 12:31                                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-11 14:11                                               ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 14:11                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-11 15:34                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-11 15:34                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-05 19:36                       ` [PATCH v2 0/4] memcg: Low-limit reclaim Tejun Heo
2014-06-05 19:36                         ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-05 14:32                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 14:32                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 15:43                       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 15:43                         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 16:09                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 16:09                           ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-05 16:46                           ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-05 16:46                             ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-28 16:17         ` Greg Thelen
2014-05-28 16:17           ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-03 11:09           ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-03 11:09             ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-03 14:01             ` Greg Thelen
2014-06-03 14:44               ` Michal Hocko
2014-06-03 14:44                 ` Michal Hocko

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