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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Daniel Forrest <dan.forrest@ssec.wisc.edu>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Tim Hartrick <tim@edgecast.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Repeated fork() causes SLAB to grow without bound
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:02:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141117160212.b86d031e1870601240b0131d@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141114163053.GA6547@cosmos.ssec.wisc.edu>

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:30:53 -0600 Daniel Forrest <dan.forrest@ssec.wisc.edu> wrote:

> There have been a couple of inquiries about the status of this patch
> over the last few months, so I am going to try pushing it out.
> 
> Andrea Arcangeli has commented:
> 
> > Agreed. The only thing I don't like about this patch is the hardcoding
> > of number 5: could we make it a variable to tweak with sysfs/sysctl so
> > if some weird workload arises we have a tuning tweak? It'd cost one
> > cacheline during fork, so it doesn't look excessive overhead.
> 
> Adding this is beyond my experience level, so if it is required then
> someone else will have to make it so.
> 
> Rik van Riel has commented:
> 
> > I believe we should just merge that patch.
> > 
> > I have not seen any better ideas come by.
> > 
> > The comment should probably be fixed to reflect the
> > chain length of 5 though :)
> 
> So here is Michel's patch again with "(length > 1)" modified to
> "(length > 5)" and fixed comments.
> 
> I have been running with this patch (with the threshold set to 5) for
> over two years now and it does indeed solve the problem.
> 
> ---
> 
> anon_vma_clone() is modified to return the length of the existing
> same_vma anon vma chain, and we create a new anon_vma in the child
> if it is more than five forks after the anon_vma was created, as we
> don't want the same_vma chain to grow arbitrarily large.

hoo boy, what's going on here.

- Under what circumstances are we seeing this slab windup?

- What are the consequences?  Can it OOM the machine?

- Why is this occurring?  There aren't an infinite number of vmas, so
  there shouldn't be an infinite number of anon_vmas or
  anon_vma_chains.

- IOW, what has to be done to fix this properly?

- What are the runtime consequences of limiting the length of the chain?

> ...
>
> @@ -331,10 +334,17 @@ int anon_vma_fork(struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_area_struct *pvma)
>  	 * First, attach the new VMA to the parent VMA's anon_vmas,
>  	 * so rmap can find non-COWed pages in child processes.
>  	 */
> -	if (anon_vma_clone(vma, pvma))
> +	length = anon_vma_clone(vma, pvma);
> +	if (length < 0)
>  		return -ENOMEM;

This should propagate the anon_vma_clone() return val instead of
assuming ENOMEM.  But that won't fix anything...

> +	else if (length > 5)
> +		return 0;
>  
> -	/* Then add our own anon_vma. */
> +	/*
> +	 * Then add our own anon_vma. We do this only for five forks after
> +	 * the anon_vma was created, as we don't want the same_vma chain to
> +	 * grow arbitrarily large.
> +	 */
>  	anon_vma = anon_vma_alloc();


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Daniel Forrest <dan.forrest@ssec.wisc.edu>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Tim Hartrick <tim@edgecast.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Repeated fork() causes SLAB to grow without bound
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:02:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141117160212.b86d031e1870601240b0131d@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141114163053.GA6547@cosmos.ssec.wisc.edu>

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:30:53 -0600 Daniel Forrest <dan.forrest@ssec.wisc.edu> wrote:

> There have been a couple of inquiries about the status of this patch
> over the last few months, so I am going to try pushing it out.
> 
> Andrea Arcangeli has commented:
> 
> > Agreed. The only thing I don't like about this patch is the hardcoding
> > of number 5: could we make it a variable to tweak with sysfs/sysctl so
> > if some weird workload arises we have a tuning tweak? It'd cost one
> > cacheline during fork, so it doesn't look excessive overhead.
> 
> Adding this is beyond my experience level, so if it is required then
> someone else will have to make it so.
> 
> Rik van Riel has commented:
> 
> > I believe we should just merge that patch.
> > 
> > I have not seen any better ideas come by.
> > 
> > The comment should probably be fixed to reflect the
> > chain length of 5 though :)
> 
> So here is Michel's patch again with "(length > 1)" modified to
> "(length > 5)" and fixed comments.
> 
> I have been running with this patch (with the threshold set to 5) for
> over two years now and it does indeed solve the problem.
> 
> ---
> 
> anon_vma_clone() is modified to return the length of the existing
> same_vma anon vma chain, and we create a new anon_vma in the child
> if it is more than five forks after the anon_vma was created, as we
> don't want the same_vma chain to grow arbitrarily large.

hoo boy, what's going on here.

- Under what circumstances are we seeing this slab windup?

- What are the consequences?  Can it OOM the machine?

- Why is this occurring?  There aren't an infinite number of vmas, so
  there shouldn't be an infinite number of anon_vmas or
  anon_vma_chains.

- IOW, what has to be done to fix this properly?

- What are the runtime consequences of limiting the length of the chain?

> ...
>
> @@ -331,10 +334,17 @@ int anon_vma_fork(struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_area_struct *pvma)
>  	 * First, attach the new VMA to the parent VMA's anon_vmas,
>  	 * so rmap can find non-COWed pages in child processes.
>  	 */
> -	if (anon_vma_clone(vma, pvma))
> +	length = anon_vma_clone(vma, pvma);
> +	if (length < 0)
>  		return -ENOMEM;

This should propagate the anon_vma_clone() return val instead of
assuming ENOMEM.  But that won't fix anything...

> +	else if (length > 5)
> +		return 0;
>  
> -	/* Then add our own anon_vma. */
> +	/*
> +	 * Then add our own anon_vma. We do this only for five forks after
> +	 * the anon_vma was created, as we don't want the same_vma chain to
> +	 * grow arbitrarily large.
> +	 */
>  	anon_vma = anon_vma_alloc();

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-18  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-16  2:46 Repeated fork() causes SLAB to grow without bound Daniel Forrest
2012-08-16 18:58 ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-16 18:58   ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  0:03   ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  0:03     ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  3:46     ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  3:46       ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  4:07       ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  4:07         ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  4:10         ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  4:10           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-20  8:00       ` Hugh Dickins
2012-08-20  8:00         ` Hugh Dickins
2012-08-20  9:39         ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20  9:39           ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 11:11           ` Andi Kleen
2012-08-20 11:11             ` Andi Kleen
2012-08-20 11:17           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-20 11:17             ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-20 11:53             ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 11:53               ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 19:11               ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 19:11                 ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-22  3:20           ` [RFC PATCH] " Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-22  3:20             ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-22  3:29             ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-22  3:29               ` Rik van Riel
2013-06-03 19:50               ` Daniel Forrest
2013-06-03 19:50                 ` Daniel Forrest
2013-06-04 10:37                 ` Rik van Riel
2013-06-04 10:37                   ` Rik van Riel
2013-06-05 14:02                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-06-05 14:02                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-14 16:30                 ` [PATCH] " Daniel Forrest
2014-11-14 16:30                   ` Daniel Forrest
2014-11-18  0:02                   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2014-11-18  0:02                     ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18  1:41                     ` Daniel Forrest
2014-11-18  1:41                       ` Daniel Forrest
2014-11-18  2:41                       ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-18  2:41                         ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-18 20:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18 20:19                           ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18 22:15                           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-18 22:15                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-18 23:02                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-18 23:50                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-18 23:50                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-19 14:36                                 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-19 14:36                                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-19 16:09                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-19 16:09                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-19 16:58                                     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-19 16:58                                       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-19 23:14                                       ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-19 23:14                                         ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-20 14:42                                         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-20 14:42                                           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-20 14:50                                           ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-20 14:50                                             ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-20 15:03                                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-20 15:03                                               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-24  7:09                                               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-25 10:59                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-25 10:59                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-25 12:13                                                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-25 15:00                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-25 15:00                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-26 17:35                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-26 17:35                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 15:44                                                         ` Jerome Marchand
2014-11-20 15:27                                           ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-20 15:27                                             ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-19  2:48                           ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-19  2:48                             ` Rik van Riel

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