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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, balbi@ti.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, peter.chen@freescale.com,
	jun.li@freescale.com, mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd()
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150318214140.GY31346@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1503181538170.1497-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

* Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> [150318 12:50]:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Roger Quadros wrote:
> 
> > To support OTG we want a mechanism to start and stop
> > the HCD from the OTG state machine. Add usb_start_hcd()
> > and usb_stop_hcd().
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
> 
> There are a few problems in this proposed patch.
> 
> > +int usb_start_hcd(struct usb_hcd *hcd)
> > +{
> > +	int retval;
> > +	struct usb_device *rhdev = hcd->self.root_hub;
> > +
> > +	if (hcd->state != HC_STATE_HALT) {
> > +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "not starting a running HCD\n");
> > +		return -EINVAL;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	hcd->state = HC_STATE_RUNNING;
> > +	retval = hcd->driver->start(hcd);
> > +	if (retval < 0) {
> > +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "startup error %d\n", retval);
> > +		hcd->state = HC_STATE_HALT;
> > +		return retval;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	/* starting here, usbcore will pay attention to this root hub */
> > +	if ((retval = register_root_hub(hcd)) != 0)
> > +		goto err_register_root_hub;
> 
> If the host controller is started more than once, you will end up
> unregistering and re-registering the root hub.  The device core does
> not allow this.  Once a device has been unregistered, you must not try
> to register it again -- you have to allocate a new device and register
> it instead.
> 
> Also, although you call the driver's ->start method multiple times, the
> ->reset method is called only once, when the controller is first 
> probed.  It's not clear that this will work in a situation where the HC 
> and the UDC share hardware state; after the UDC is stopped it may be 
> necessary to reset the HC before it can run again.
> 
> It might be possible to make this work, but I suspect quite a few 
> drivers would need rewriting first.  As another example of the problems 
> you face, consider how stopping a host controller will interact with 
> the driver's PM support (both system suspend and runtime suspend).
> 
> It would be a lot simpler to unbind the host controller driver
> completely when switching to device mode and rebind it when switching
> back.  I guess that is the sort of heavy-duty approach you want to
> avoid, but it may be the only practical way forward.

Hmm from memory I think the OTG spec assumes the USB devices are
suspended when attempting the role change? I could be totally wrong,
it's been a really long time since I've looked at the OTG spec, but
maybe that would make it easier to deal with thing?

Regards,

Tony

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From: Tony Lindgren <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Roger Quadros <rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
	dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	peter.chen-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org,
	jun.li-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org,
	mathias.nyman-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd()
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 14:41:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150318214140.GY31346@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1503181538170.1497-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>

* Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org> [150318 12:50]:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Roger Quadros wrote:
> 
> > To support OTG we want a mechanism to start and stop
> > the HCD from the OTG state machine. Add usb_start_hcd()
> > and usb_stop_hcd().
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros <rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
> 
> There are a few problems in this proposed patch.
> 
> > +int usb_start_hcd(struct usb_hcd *hcd)
> > +{
> > +	int retval;
> > +	struct usb_device *rhdev = hcd->self.root_hub;
> > +
> > +	if (hcd->state != HC_STATE_HALT) {
> > +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "not starting a running HCD\n");
> > +		return -EINVAL;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	hcd->state = HC_STATE_RUNNING;
> > +	retval = hcd->driver->start(hcd);
> > +	if (retval < 0) {
> > +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "startup error %d\n", retval);
> > +		hcd->state = HC_STATE_HALT;
> > +		return retval;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	/* starting here, usbcore will pay attention to this root hub */
> > +	if ((retval = register_root_hub(hcd)) != 0)
> > +		goto err_register_root_hub;
> 
> If the host controller is started more than once, you will end up
> unregistering and re-registering the root hub.  The device core does
> not allow this.  Once a device has been unregistered, you must not try
> to register it again -- you have to allocate a new device and register
> it instead.
> 
> Also, although you call the driver's ->start method multiple times, the
> ->reset method is called only once, when the controller is first 
> probed.  It's not clear that this will work in a situation where the HC 
> and the UDC share hardware state; after the UDC is stopped it may be 
> necessary to reset the HC before it can run again.
> 
> It might be possible to make this work, but I suspect quite a few 
> drivers would need rewriting first.  As another example of the problems 
> you face, consider how stopping a host controller will interact with 
> the driver's PM support (both system suspend and runtime suspend).
> 
> It would be a lot simpler to unbind the host controller driver
> completely when switching to device mode and rebind it when switching
> back.  I guess that is the sort of heavy-duty approach you want to
> avoid, but it may be the only practical way forward.

Hmm from memory I think the OTG spec assumes the USB devices are
suspended when attempting the role change? I could be totally wrong,
it's been a really long time since I've looked at the OTG spec, but
maybe that would make it easier to deal with thing?

Regards,

Tony
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-18 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18 13:55 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd() Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 19:49   ` Alan Stern
2015-03-18 19:49     ` Alan Stern
2015-03-18 21:41     ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2015-03-18 21:41       ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19  1:51       ` Alan Stern
2015-03-19  1:51         ` Alan Stern
2015-03-19  2:38         ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19  2:38           ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19 11:38     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 11:38       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:17       ` Alan Stern
2015-03-19 14:17         ` Alan Stern
2015-03-20  6:32       ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  6:32         ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:49         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:49           ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  1:46   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  1:46     ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] usb: gadget: add usb_gadget_start/stop() Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:30   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  3:30     ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:14     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:14       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:09       ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:09         ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:50         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:50           ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  7:18           ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  7:18             ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:46             ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:46               ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 11:08               ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 11:08                 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-21  1:30                 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-21  1:30                   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] usb: otg: add OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:40   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  3:40     ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:18     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:18       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  7:45       ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  7:45         ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:18         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:18           ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:32           ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  8:26   ` Li Jun
2015-03-19  8:26     ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 10:30     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:30       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:41       ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:41         ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:54         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:54           ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] usb: otg: hub: Notify OTG fsm when A device sets b_hnp_enable Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] usb: hcd: adapt to OTG Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] usb: gadget: udc: " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] usb: dwc3: adapt to OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] usb: otg-fsm: Remove unused members in struct otg_fsm Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:46   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  3:46     ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:20     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:20       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] usb: otg-fsm: Add documentation for " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 17:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19 10:31   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:31     ` Roger Quadros

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