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From: Peter Chen <peter.chen@freescale.com>
To: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <balbi@ti.com>,
	<dan.j.williams@intel.com>, <jun.li@freescale.com>,
	<mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>, <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd()
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:32:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150320063249.GE7537@shlinux2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <550AB538.7090806@ti.com>

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 01:38:32PM +0200, Roger Quadros wrote:
> On 18/03/15 21:49, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Roger Quadros wrote:
> > 
> >> To support OTG we want a mechanism to start and stop
> >> the HCD from the OTG state machine. Add usb_start_hcd()
> >> and usb_stop_hcd().
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>
> > 
> > There are a few problems in this proposed patch.
> > 
> >> +int usb_start_hcd(struct usb_hcd *hcd)
> >> +{
> >> +	int retval;
> >> +	struct usb_device *rhdev = hcd->self.root_hub;
> >> +
> >> +	if (hcd->state != HC_STATE_HALT) {
> >> +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "not starting a running HCD\n");
> >> +		return -EINVAL;
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +	hcd->state = HC_STATE_RUNNING;
> >> +	retval = hcd->driver->start(hcd);
> >> +	if (retval < 0) {
> >> +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "startup error %d\n", retval);
> >> +		hcd->state = HC_STATE_HALT;
> >> +		return retval;
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +	/* starting here, usbcore will pay attention to this root hub */
> >> +	if ((retval = register_root_hub(hcd)) != 0)
> >> +		goto err_register_root_hub;
> > 
> > If the host controller is started more than once, you will end up
> > unregistering and re-registering the root hub.  The device core does
> > not allow this.  Once a device has been unregistered, you must not try
> > to register it again -- you have to allocate a new device and register
> > it instead.
> 
> Understood.
> 
> > 
> > Also, although you call the driver's ->start method multiple times, the
> > ->reset method is called only once, when the controller is first 
> > probed.  It's not clear that this will work in a situation where the HC 
> > and the UDC share hardware state; after the UDC is stopped it may be 
> > necessary to reset the HC before it can run again.
> 
> Yes, good point.
> > 
> > It might be possible to make this work, but I suspect quite a few 
> > drivers would need rewriting first.  As another example of the problems 
> > you face, consider how stopping a host controller will interact with 
> > the driver's PM support (both system suspend and runtime suspend).
> 
> Right. This needs more work than I thought.
> > 
> > It would be a lot simpler to unbind the host controller driver
> > completely when switching to device mode and rebind it when switching
> > back.  I guess that is the sort of heavy-duty approach you want to
> > avoid, but it may be the only practical way forward.
> 
> So you mean directly calling usb_add/remove_hcd() from the OTG core?
> I don't see any issues with that other than it being a heavy-duty operation
> like you said and hope that it doesn't violate the OTG spec timing.
> 
> Looking at Figure 5-3: "HNP Sequence of Events (FS)" of the OTG 2.0 spec
> we have about 150ms (X10) to switch from B-Device detected A connect (b_wait_acon state)
> to driving bus reset (b_host state). I don't think this should be an issue in modern SoCs
> but I'm not very sure.
> 

It is not related toadd/remove hcd, it is the time from receiving PCD
to issue BUS_RESET, the Linux stack can't satisfy OTG spec (150ms) due
to there are some de-bounce waitings.

> In any case I can migrate to the add/remove hcd approach to simplify things.
> 

It should be no problem, we use it more than 1 years.

-- 

Best Regards,
Peter Chen

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Chen <peter.chen-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
To: Roger Quadros <rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alan Stern
	<stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>,
	gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
	dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	jun.li-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org,
	mathias.nyman-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd()
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:32:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150320063249.GE7537@shlinux2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <550AB538.7090806-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 01:38:32PM +0200, Roger Quadros wrote:
> On 18/03/15 21:49, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Roger Quadros wrote:
> > 
> >> To support OTG we want a mechanism to start and stop
> >> the HCD from the OTG state machine. Add usb_start_hcd()
> >> and usb_stop_hcd().
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros <rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
> > 
> > There are a few problems in this proposed patch.
> > 
> >> +int usb_start_hcd(struct usb_hcd *hcd)
> >> +{
> >> +	int retval;
> >> +	struct usb_device *rhdev = hcd->self.root_hub;
> >> +
> >> +	if (hcd->state != HC_STATE_HALT) {
> >> +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "not starting a running HCD\n");
> >> +		return -EINVAL;
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +	hcd->state = HC_STATE_RUNNING;
> >> +	retval = hcd->driver->start(hcd);
> >> +	if (retval < 0) {
> >> +		dev_err(hcd->self.controller, "startup error %d\n", retval);
> >> +		hcd->state = HC_STATE_HALT;
> >> +		return retval;
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +	/* starting here, usbcore will pay attention to this root hub */
> >> +	if ((retval = register_root_hub(hcd)) != 0)
> >> +		goto err_register_root_hub;
> > 
> > If the host controller is started more than once, you will end up
> > unregistering and re-registering the root hub.  The device core does
> > not allow this.  Once a device has been unregistered, you must not try
> > to register it again -- you have to allocate a new device and register
> > it instead.
> 
> Understood.
> 
> > 
> > Also, although you call the driver's ->start method multiple times, the
> > ->reset method is called only once, when the controller is first 
> > probed.  It's not clear that this will work in a situation where the HC 
> > and the UDC share hardware state; after the UDC is stopped it may be 
> > necessary to reset the HC before it can run again.
> 
> Yes, good point.
> > 
> > It might be possible to make this work, but I suspect quite a few 
> > drivers would need rewriting first.  As another example of the problems 
> > you face, consider how stopping a host controller will interact with 
> > the driver's PM support (both system suspend and runtime suspend).
> 
> Right. This needs more work than I thought.
> > 
> > It would be a lot simpler to unbind the host controller driver
> > completely when switching to device mode and rebind it when switching
> > back.  I guess that is the sort of heavy-duty approach you want to
> > avoid, but it may be the only practical way forward.
> 
> So you mean directly calling usb_add/remove_hcd() from the OTG core?
> I don't see any issues with that other than it being a heavy-duty operation
> like you said and hope that it doesn't violate the OTG spec timing.
> 
> Looking at Figure 5-3: "HNP Sequence of Events (FS)" of the OTG 2.0 spec
> we have about 150ms (X10) to switch from B-Device detected A connect (b_wait_acon state)
> to driving bus reset (b_host state). I don't think this should be an issue in modern SoCs
> but I'm not very sure.
> 

It is not related toadd/remove hcd, it is the time from receiving PCD
to issue BUS_RESET, the Linux stack can't satisfy OTG spec (150ms) due
to there are some de-bounce waitings.

> In any case I can migrate to the add/remove hcd approach to simplify things.
> 

It should be no problem, we use it more than 1 years.

-- 

Best Regards,
Peter Chen
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-20  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18 13:55 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] usb: hcd: Introduce usb_start/stop_hcd() Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 19:49   ` Alan Stern
2015-03-18 19:49     ` Alan Stern
2015-03-18 21:41     ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-18 21:41       ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19  1:51       ` Alan Stern
2015-03-19  1:51         ` Alan Stern
2015-03-19  2:38         ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19  2:38           ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19 11:38     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 11:38       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:17       ` Alan Stern
2015-03-19 14:17         ` Alan Stern
2015-03-20  6:32       ` Peter Chen [this message]
2015-03-20  6:32         ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:49         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:49           ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  1:46   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  1:46     ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] usb: gadget: add usb_gadget_start/stop() Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:30   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  3:30     ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:14     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:14       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:09       ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:09         ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:50         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:50           ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  7:18           ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  7:18             ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:46             ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:46               ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 11:08               ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20 11:08                 ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-21  1:30                 ` Peter Chen
2015-03-21  1:30                   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] usb: otg: add OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:40   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  3:40     ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:18     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:18       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  7:45       ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  7:45         ` Peter Chen
2015-03-20  9:18         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:18           ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-20  9:32           ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  8:26   ` Li Jun
2015-03-19  8:26     ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 10:30     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:30       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:41       ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:41         ` Li Jun
2015-03-19 14:54         ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 14:54           ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] usb: otg: hub: Notify OTG fsm when A device sets b_hnp_enable Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] usb: hcd: adapt to OTG Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:55   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] usb: gadget: udc: " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] usb: dwc3: adapt to OTG core Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] usb: otg-fsm: Remove unused members in struct otg_fsm Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19  3:46   ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19  3:46     ` Peter Chen
2015-03-19 10:20     ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:20       ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] usb: otg-fsm: Add documentation for " Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 13:56   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-18 17:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] USB: OTG Core functionality Tony Lindgren
2015-03-19 10:31   ` Roger Quadros
2015-03-19 10:31     ` Roger Quadros

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