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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Samuel Thibault" <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>,
	"Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rpurdie@rpsys.net,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Input: export LEDs as class devices in sysfs
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:34:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150610063443.GA10886@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150609164935.GD6338@dtor-ws>

On Tue 2015-06-09 09:49:35, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 03:19:55PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Dmitry Torokhov, le Mon 08 Jun 2015 14:43:08 -0700, a écrit :
> > > 1. Instead of making LED class devices part of the input device they are
> > > implemented as an input handler (and thus are completely separate from
> > > input core).
> > 
> > That's nicer indeed.  Not defining triggers per LED however does not
> > permit to e.g. switch two leds of a keyboard independently of what
> > produces input events.  I'm personally fine with it, I just wanted to
> > mention it since this example of usage was cited at some point in the
> > thread.
> 
> I might have over-though the issue a bit in the past ;) But I think I am
> happy with the current behavior, it separates input events and leds and
> just says that you can select what tgrigges led state change. And you
> shoudl still be able to do:
> 
> echo "kbd-ctrlllock" > /sys/..../input22::caps-lock/trigger
> echo "heartbit" > /sys/..../input22::num-lock/trigger
> echo "kbd-numlock" > /sys/..../input22::scroll-lock/trigger
> 
> But you can't say that pressing CapsLock on keyboard1 should light up
> ScrollLock led on keyboard2, nor do we want it I think. If such control
> is truly needed userspace can take over and managed leds as it sees fit,
> like X does.

Ack. Please keep it simple.
									Pavel
									
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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Samuel Thibault" <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>,
	"Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rpurdie@rpsys.net,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Input: export LEDs as class devices in sysfs
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:34:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150610063443.GA10886@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150609164935.GD6338@dtor-ws>

On Tue 2015-06-09 09:49:35, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 03:19:55PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Dmitry Torokhov, le Mon 08 Jun 2015 14:43:08 -0700, a écrit :
> > > 1. Instead of making LED class devices part of the input device they are
> > > implemented as an input handler (and thus are completely separate from
> > > input core).
> > 
> > That's nicer indeed.  Not defining triggers per LED however does not
> > permit to e.g. switch two leds of a keyboard independently of what
> > produces input events.  I'm personally fine with it, I just wanted to
> > mention it since this example of usage was cited at some point in the
> > thread.
> 
> I might have over-though the issue a bit in the past ;) But I think I am
> happy with the current behavior, it separates input events and leds and
> just says that you can select what tgrigges led state change. And you
> shoudl still be able to do:
> 
> echo "kbd-ctrlllock" > /sys/..../input22::caps-lock/trigger
> echo "heartbit" > /sys/..../input22::num-lock/trigger
> echo "kbd-numlock" > /sys/..../input22::scroll-lock/trigger
> 
> But you can't say that pressing CapsLock on keyboard1 should light up
> ScrollLock led on keyboard2, nor do we want it I think. If such control
> is truly needed userspace can take over and managed leds as it sees fit,
> like X does.

Ack. Please keep it simple.
									Pavel
									
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-10  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-08 21:43 [PATCH 0/3] Switch input leds over to standard LED class devices Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-08 21:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] Input: export LEDs as class devices in sysfs Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 13:19   ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 13:19     ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 13:27     ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 13:27       ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 16:50       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 16:50         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 17:16         ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 17:16           ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 16:49     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 16:49       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 17:22       ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 17:22         ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 17:32         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 17:32           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-10  6:34       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-06-10  6:34         ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-09 17:42   ` [PATCH v2 " Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-10  0:32     ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-10  1:24       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-11 17:51         ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-15 10:03         ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-15 10:51           ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-21 11:14     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-21 17:01       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-21 21:08         ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-22 13:12           ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-22 18:55             ` Jiri Kosina
2015-07-23  5:19               ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-23  5:42                 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-07-22 14:41         ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-22 19:49           ` Jiri Kosina
2015-07-22 21:47             ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-22 21:50               ` Jiri Kosina
2015-07-22 21:49             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-22 22:01               ` Jiri Kosina
2015-06-08 21:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] tty/vt/keyboard: define LED triggers for VT LED states Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-08 21:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] tty/vt/keyboard: define LED triggers for VT keyboard lock states Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-08 22:58 ` [PATCH 0/3] Switch input leds over to standard LED class devices Bastien Nocera
2015-06-08 23:16   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 10:54 ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-09 11:12   ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-09 11:22     ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-09 11:22       ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-09 11:28       ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-09 11:28         ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-09 12:22       ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 12:22         ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 11:26     ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-09 16:40       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 12:20   ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 12:20     ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 16:18   ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-09 16:32     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 16:37   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-06-09 13:42 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 13:42   ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 13:50   ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-09 13:50     ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-09 14:05     ` Samuel Thibault
     [not found] ` <20090205113908.GA14224@const.inria.fr>
2015-06-09 14:17   ` caps lock led does not show up Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 14:17     ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-09 16:03     ` Bug#514464: " Anton Zinoviev
2015-06-09 16:03       ` Anton Zinoviev
2015-06-11  8:08       ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-11  8:08         ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-11 14:28         ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-11 14:28           ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-11 15:37           ` Samuel Thibault
2015-06-25 15:41             ` Samuel Thibault
2015-07-02 16:39               ` Anton Zinoviev
2015-07-02 16:50                 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-08-31  8:33                 ` Samuel Thibault

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