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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] asynchronous printk
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:23:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160719082320.GD24189@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a38a0bc9-12c9-6234-9645-5d3ad4f83023@suse.com>

On (07/19/16 10:02), Hannes Reinecke wrote:
[..]
> > so why would the system die before we console_unlock()?
> > 
> Errm.
> Because it doesn't have any other chance?
> Like, hard lockup?
> Power down?
> Hardware dead?

ah, ok. so mostly for the reasons outside of printk/panic code.
hard lockup, case. hm, I think nmi_panic() is still going to
call panic() at some point. so we have chances to flush log_buf
messages.

power down or h/w failure, however, can't be fixed up neither
by sync nor by async printk. well, we can't help here.


the thing that really can stop us from flushing the messages
is the fact that console driver may be in some unknown state.
for example, have some internal locks owned by non-panic CPU,
which we IPI_STOP-ed before console_flush_on_panic(). console
drivers are normally unaware of the fact that the system is in
panic now. so some sort of console->write_on_panic(), or
console->reset() would probably be helpful, but that's a bit
different topic.

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-19  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-19  3:47 [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] asynchronous printk Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-19  3:56 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-19  6:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-19  6:49   ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-19  7:02     ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-19  7:11       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-07-20  6:02         ` Jan Kara
2016-07-20 22:54       ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-21  0:46         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-21  1:12           ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-19  7:33   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-19  7:38     ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-19  7:46       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-19  8:02         ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-19  8:23           ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-07-21 10:36           ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 12:31             ` Jan Kara
2016-07-28  2:55             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-20  6:09       ` Jan Kara
2016-07-19  7:46   ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-07-19  7:53     ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-07-19 13:55       ` Jan Kara
2016-07-28  2:59         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-28  4:12           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-28 13:02             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-20  3:35   ` Wangnan (F)
2016-07-21  1:16     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-21  1:52       ` Wangnan (F)
2016-07-21  5:59       ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-21 10:31         ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 11:19           ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-21 11:59             ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 14:21               ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-21 14:40                 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-28  3:05                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-02 11:59               ` Petr Mladek
2016-07-21 15:05           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26 14:40             ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-26 15:44               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-07-26 21:00               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-27  0:03                 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-27  1:16                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-21 10:28       ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-19 14:45 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-19 14:55   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-19 17:58     ` James Bottomley
2016-07-19 18:24       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-07-20  2:08       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-07-20  6:14     ` Jan Kara
2016-09-21  4:41 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-31  6:54   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-31 13:56     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-10-31 13:59       ` Jiri Kosina
2016-10-31 14:56       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk considered harmful (was: [TECH TOPIC] asynchronous printk) Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-31 16:18         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-10-31 18:21           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-31 18:26             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk considered harmful Hannes Reinecke
2016-10-31 20:28           ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk considered harmful (was: [TECH TOPIC] asynchronous printk) Jan Kara
2016-11-01 12:27             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk considered harmful Hannes Reinecke
2016-11-01 17:50         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk considered harmful (was: [TECH TOPIC] asynchronous printk) Sergey Senozhatsky

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