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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [qemu patch 2/2] kvmclock: reduce kvmclock difference on migration
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 15:13:21 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161114171318.GA6336@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbcac3d2-88aa-3cb4-7257-e70061a22a2c@redhat.com>

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 05:43:33PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 14/11/2016 16:40, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > static bool kvmclock_src_use_reliable_get_clock(void *opaque)
> > {
> >     KVMClockState *s = opaque;
> > 
> >     /*
> >      * On machine types that support reliable KVM_GET_CLOCK,
> >      * if host kernel does provide reliable KVM_GET_CLOCK,
> >      * set src_use_reliable_get_clock=true so that destination
> >      * avoids reading kvmclock from memory.
> >      */
> >     if (s->mach_use_reliable_get_clock && kvm_has_adjust_clock_stable())
> >     {
> >         s->src_use_reliable_get_clock = true;
> >     }
> > 
> >     return s->mach_use_reliable_get_clock;
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > Ah, OK, done.
> 
> s->src_use_reliable_get_clock should not be set with
> KVM_CHECK_EXTENSION, but rather from the flags returned by KVM_GET_CLOCK.

Well, thats not right: What matters is the presence of get_kvmclock_ns 
which returns a value that the guest sees. 

                get_kernel_monotonic_clock() + kvmclock_offset +
                (rdtsc() - tsc_timestamp)

IOW what the guest sees. And you changed that in 

commit 108b249c453dd7132599ab6dc7e435a7036c193f
Author: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Date:   Thu Sep 1 14:21:03 2016 +0200

    KVM: x86: introduce get_kvmclock_ns

And the correct behaviour (once KVM_GET_CLOCK is fixed per 
previous message to return rdtsc - tsc_timestamp for the 
non masterclock case) depends on this commit above, 
not on masterclock.

> > So s->src_use_reliable_get_clock is only used to indicate 
> > to the destination that: "you can use KVM_GET_CLOCK value, 
> > its safe".
> 
> Yes, we agree.  I was listing all the points, not just those where we
> disagree.  Actually I'm not sure where we disagree, except on using
> flags from KVM_CHECK_EXTENSION vs. flags from KVM_GET_CLOCK...
> 
> Paolo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu patch 2/2] kvmclock: reduce kvmclock difference on migration
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 15:13:21 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161114171318.GA6336@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbcac3d2-88aa-3cb4-7257-e70061a22a2c@redhat.com>

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 05:43:33PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 14/11/2016 16:40, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > static bool kvmclock_src_use_reliable_get_clock(void *opaque)
> > {
> >     KVMClockState *s = opaque;
> > 
> >     /*
> >      * On machine types that support reliable KVM_GET_CLOCK,
> >      * if host kernel does provide reliable KVM_GET_CLOCK,
> >      * set src_use_reliable_get_clock=true so that destination
> >      * avoids reading kvmclock from memory.
> >      */
> >     if (s->mach_use_reliable_get_clock && kvm_has_adjust_clock_stable())
> >     {
> >         s->src_use_reliable_get_clock = true;
> >     }
> > 
> >     return s->mach_use_reliable_get_clock;
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > Ah, OK, done.
> 
> s->src_use_reliable_get_clock should not be set with
> KVM_CHECK_EXTENSION, but rather from the flags returned by KVM_GET_CLOCK.

Well, thats not right: What matters is the presence of get_kvmclock_ns 
which returns a value that the guest sees. 

                get_kernel_monotonic_clock() + kvmclock_offset +
                (rdtsc() - tsc_timestamp)

IOW what the guest sees. And you changed that in 

commit 108b249c453dd7132599ab6dc7e435a7036c193f
Author: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Date:   Thu Sep 1 14:21:03 2016 +0200

    KVM: x86: introduce get_kvmclock_ns

And the correct behaviour (once KVM_GET_CLOCK is fixed per 
previous message to return rdtsc - tsc_timestamp for the 
non masterclock case) depends on this commit above, 
not on masterclock.

> > So s->src_use_reliable_get_clock is only used to indicate 
> > to the destination that: "you can use KVM_GET_CLOCK value, 
> > its safe".
> 
> Yes, we agree.  I was listing all the points, not just those where we
> disagree.  Actually I'm not sure where we disagree, except on using
> flags from KVM_CHECK_EXTENSION vs. flags from KVM_GET_CLOCK...
> 
> Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-14 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-14 12:36 [qemu patch 0/2] improve kvmclock difference on migration Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 12:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 12:36 ` [qemu patch 1/2] kvm: sync linux headers Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 12:36   ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 12:36 ` [qemu patch 2/2] kvmclock: reduce kvmclock difference on migration Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 12:36   ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 13:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 13:54     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 14:00     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 14:00       ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 14:22       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 14:22         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 14:50         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 14:50           ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 15:00           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 15:00             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 15:40             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 15:40               ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 16:43               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 16:43                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 17:13                 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2016-11-14 17:13                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 17:20                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 17:20                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 18:15                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 18:15                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-17 12:16                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-17 12:16                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-17 13:03                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-17 13:03                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-28 13:47                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-28 13:47                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-28 14:28                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-11-28 14:28                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2016-11-28 15:12                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-28 15:12                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-28 16:36                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-28 16:36                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-28 17:30                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-28 17:30                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 14:11     ` Juan Quintela
2016-11-14 14:11       ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2016-11-14 14:09   ` Juan Quintela
2016-11-14 14:09     ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2016-11-14 15:37     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 15:37       ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti

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