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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Kernel-team@fb.com, danielmicay@gmail.com, minchan@kernel.org,
	hughd@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, riel@redhat.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 5/7] mm: add vmstat account for MADV_FREE pages
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:43:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170221094353.GG15595@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170210175015.GD86050@shli-mbp.local>

[Sorry for a late reply I was on vacation last week]

On Fri 10-02-17 09:50:15, Shaohua Li wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 02:27:27PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 03-02-17 15:33:21, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > > Show MADV_FREE pages info in proc/sysfs files.
> > 
> > How are we going to use this information? Why it isn't sufficient to
> > watch for lazyfree events? I mean this adds quite some code and it is
> > not clear (at least from the changelog) we we need this information.
> 
> It's just like any other meminfo we added to let user know what happens in the
> system. Users can use the info for monitoring/diagnosing. the
> lazyfree/lazyfreed events can't reflect the lazyfree page info because
> 'lazyfree - lazyfreed' doesn't equal current lazyfree pages and the events
> aren't per-node. I'll add more description in the changelog.

Well, I would prefer to not add new counters until there is a strong
reason for them. Maybe a trace point would be more appropriate for
debugging purposes.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Kernel-team@fb.com, danielmicay@gmail.com, minchan@kernel.org,
	hughd@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, riel@redhat.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 5/7] mm: add vmstat account for MADV_FREE pages
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:43:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170221094353.GG15595@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170210175015.GD86050@shli-mbp.local>

[Sorry for a late reply I was on vacation last week]

On Fri 10-02-17 09:50:15, Shaohua Li wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 02:27:27PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 03-02-17 15:33:21, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > > Show MADV_FREE pages info in proc/sysfs files.
> > 
> > How are we going to use this information? Why it isn't sufficient to
> > watch for lazyfree events? I mean this adds quite some code and it is
> > not clear (at least from the changelog) we we need this information.
> 
> It's just like any other meminfo we added to let user know what happens in the
> system. Users can use the info for monitoring/diagnosing. the
> lazyfree/lazyfreed events can't reflect the lazyfree page info because
> 'lazyfree - lazyfreed' doesn't equal current lazyfree pages and the events
> aren't per-node. I'll add more description in the changelog.

Well, I would prefer to not add new counters until there is a strong
reason for them. Maybe a trace point would be more appropriate for
debugging purposes.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-21  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-03 23:33 [PATCH V2 0/7] mm: fix some MADV_FREE issues Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33 ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33 ` [PATCH V2 1/7] mm: don't assume anonymous pages have SwapBacked flag Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33   ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33 ` [PATCH V2 2/7] mm: move MADV_FREE pages into LRU_INACTIVE_FILE list Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33   ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-04  6:38   ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-04  6:38     ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-09  6:33     ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-09  6:33       ` Hillf Danton
2017-02-10  6:50   ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-10  6:50     ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-10 17:30     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10 17:30       ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-13  4:57       ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-13  4:57         ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-10 13:02   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 13:02     ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 17:33     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10 17:33       ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33 ` [PATCH V2 3/7] mm: reclaim MADV_FREE pages Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33   ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10  6:58   ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-10  6:58     ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-10 17:43     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10 17:43       ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-13  5:06       ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-13  5:06         ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-10 13:23   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 13:23     ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-03 23:33 ` [PATCH V2 4/7] mm: enable MADV_FREE for swapless system Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33   ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33 ` [PATCH V2 5/7] mm: add vmstat account for MADV_FREE pages Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33   ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10 13:27   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 13:27     ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 17:50     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10 17:50       ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-21  9:43       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-02-21  9:43         ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-03 23:33 ` [PATCH V2 6/7] proc: show MADV_FREE pages info in smaps Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33   ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10 13:30   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 13:30     ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 17:52     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10 17:52       ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-22  2:47   ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-22  2:47     ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-22  4:11     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-22  4:11       ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33 ` [PATCH V2 7/7] mm: add a separate RSS for MADV_FREE pages Shaohua Li
2017-02-03 23:33   ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10 13:35   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 13:35     ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-10 18:01     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-10 18:01       ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-21  9:45       ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-21  9:45         ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-22  0:46   ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-22  0:46     ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-22  1:27     ` Shaohua Li
2017-02-22  1:27       ` Shaohua Li

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