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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] mm/memcontrol.c: Reduce reclaim retries in mem_cgroup_resize_limit()
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 16:44:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180222154435.GO30681@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0927bcab-7e2c-c6f9-d16a-315ac436ba98@virtuozzo.com>

On Thu 22-02-18 18:38:11, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/22/2018 06:33 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 22-02-18 18:13:11, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 02/22/2018 05:09 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >>> On Thu 22-02-18 16:50:33, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> >>>> On 02/21/2018 11:17 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:11:18 +0100 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And to be honest, I do not really see why keeping retrying from
> >>>>>> mem_cgroup_resize_limit should be so much faster than keep retrying from
> >>>>>> the direct reclaim path. We are doing SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX batches anyway.
> >>>>>> mem_cgroup_resize_limit loop adds _some_ overhead but I am not really
> >>>>>> sure why it should be that large.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe restarting the scan lots of times results in rescanning lots of
> >>>>> ineligible pages at the start of the list before doing useful work?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andrey, are you able to determine where all that CPU time is being spent?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I should have been more specific about the test I did. The full script looks like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> mkdir -p /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test
> >>>> echo $$ > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/tasks
> >>>> cat 4G_file > /dev/null
> >>>> while true; do cat 4G_file > /dev/null; done &
> >>>> loop_pid=$!
> >>>> perf stat echo 50M > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/memory.limit_in_bytes
> >>>> echo -1 > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/memory.limit_in_bytes
> >>>> kill $loop_pid
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the additional loops add some overhead and it's not that big by itself, but
> >>>> this small overhead allows task to refill slightly more pages, increasing
> >>>> the total amount of pages that mem_cgroup_resize_limit() need to reclaim.
> >>>>
> >>>> By using the following commands to show the the amount of reclaimed pages:
> >>>> perf record -e vmscan:mm_vmscan_memcg_reclaim_end echo 50M > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/memory.limit_in_bytes
> >>>> perf script|cut -d '=' -f 2| paste -sd+ |bc
> >>>>
> >>>> I've got 1259841 pages (4.9G) with the patch vs 1394312 pages (5.4G) without it.
> >>>
> >>> So how does the picture changes if you have multiple producers?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Drastically, in favor of the patch. But numbers *very* fickle from run to run.
> >>
> >> Inside 5G vm with  4 cpus (qemu -m 5G -smp 4) and 4 processes in cgroup reading 1G files:
> >> "while true; do cat /1g_f$i > /dev/null; done &"
> >>
> >> with the patch:
> >> best: 1.04  secs, 9.7G reclaimed
> >> worst: 2.2 secs, 16G reclaimed.
> >>
> >> without:
> >> best: 5.4 sec, 35G reclaimed
> >> worst: 22.2 sec, 136G reclaimed
> > 
> > Could you also compare how much memory do we reclaim with/without the
> > patch?
> > 
> 
> I did and I wrote the results. Please look again.

I must have forgotten. Care to point me to the message-id?
20180119132544.19569-2-aryabinin@virtuozzo.com doesn't contain this
information and a quick glance over the follow up thread doesn't have
anything as well. Ideally, this should be in the patch changelog, btw.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] mm/memcontrol.c: Reduce reclaim retries in mem_cgroup_resize_limit()
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 16:44:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180222154435.GO30681@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0927bcab-7e2c-c6f9-d16a-315ac436ba98@virtuozzo.com>

On Thu 22-02-18 18:38:11, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/22/2018 06:33 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 22-02-18 18:13:11, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 02/22/2018 05:09 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >>> On Thu 22-02-18 16:50:33, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> >>>> On 02/21/2018 11:17 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:11:18 +0100 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And to be honest, I do not really see why keeping retrying from
> >>>>>> mem_cgroup_resize_limit should be so much faster than keep retrying from
> >>>>>> the direct reclaim path. We are doing SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX batches anyway.
> >>>>>> mem_cgroup_resize_limit loop adds _some_ overhead but I am not really
> >>>>>> sure why it should be that large.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe restarting the scan lots of times results in rescanning lots of
> >>>>> ineligible pages at the start of the list before doing useful work?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andrey, are you able to determine where all that CPU time is being spent?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I should have been more specific about the test I did. The full script looks like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> mkdir -p /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test
> >>>> echo $$ > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/tasks
> >>>> cat 4G_file > /dev/null
> >>>> while true; do cat 4G_file > /dev/null; done &
> >>>> loop_pid=$!
> >>>> perf stat echo 50M > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/memory.limit_in_bytes
> >>>> echo -1 > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/memory.limit_in_bytes
> >>>> kill $loop_pid
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the additional loops add some overhead and it's not that big by itself, but
> >>>> this small overhead allows task to refill slightly more pages, increasing
> >>>> the total amount of pages that mem_cgroup_resize_limit() need to reclaim.
> >>>>
> >>>> By using the following commands to show the the amount of reclaimed pages:
> >>>> perf record -e vmscan:mm_vmscan_memcg_reclaim_end echo 50M > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/memory.limit_in_bytes
> >>>> perf script|cut -d '=' -f 2| paste -sd+ |bc
> >>>>
> >>>> I've got 1259841 pages (4.9G) with the patch vs 1394312 pages (5.4G) without it.
> >>>
> >>> So how does the picture changes if you have multiple producers?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Drastically, in favor of the patch. But numbers *very* fickle from run to run.
> >>
> >> Inside 5G vm with  4 cpus (qemu -m 5G -smp 4) and 4 processes in cgroup reading 1G files:
> >> "while true; do cat /1g_f$i > /dev/null; done &"
> >>
> >> with the patch:
> >> best: 1.04  secs, 9.7G reclaimed
> >> worst: 2.2 secs, 16G reclaimed.
> >>
> >> without:
> >> best: 5.4 sec, 35G reclaimed
> >> worst: 22.2 sec, 136G reclaimed
> > 
> > Could you also compare how much memory do we reclaim with/without the
> > patch?
> > 
> 
> I did and I wrote the results. Please look again.

I must have forgotten. Care to point me to the message-id?
20180119132544.19569-2-aryabinin@virtuozzo.com doesn't contain this
information and a quick glance over the follow up thread doesn't have
anything as well. Ideally, this should be in the patch changelog, btw.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-22 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-20 10:24 [PATCH 1/2] mm/memcg: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 10:24 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 10:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/memcg: Consolidate mem_cgroup_resize_[memsw]_limit() functions Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 10:24   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 10:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/memcg: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Michal Hocko
2017-12-20 10:33   ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-20 11:32   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 11:32     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 11:34     ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-20 11:34       ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-20 18:15       ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-20 18:15         ` Shakeel Butt
2017-12-21 10:00         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-21 10:00           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-21 10:00           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 " Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 13:21   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 13:21   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/memcg: Consolidate mem_cgroup_resize_[memsw]_limit() functions Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 13:21     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-12-20 13:53   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/memcg: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Michal Hocko
2017-12-20 13:53     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-09 16:58     ` [PATCH v3 " Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 16:58       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 16:58       ` [PATCH v3 2/2] mm/memcg: Consolidate mem_cgroup_resize_[memsw]_limit() functions Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 16:58         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 17:10         ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-09 17:10           ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-09 17:10           ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-09 17:26           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 17:26             ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 23:26             ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-09 23:26               ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-10 12:43               ` [PATCH v4] mm/memcg: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-10 12:43                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-10 12:43                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-10 22:31                 ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-10 22:31                   ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-11 11:59                   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 11:59                     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-12  0:21                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-12  0:21                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-12  0:21                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-12  9:08                       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-12  9:08                         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 10:42                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-11 10:42                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-11 10:42                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-11 12:21                   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 12:21                     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 12:21                     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 12:46                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-11 12:46                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-11 15:23                       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 15:23                         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 15:23                         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 16:29                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-11 16:29                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-11 16:29                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-11 21:59                           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 21:59                             ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-11 21:59                             ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-12 12:24                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-12 12:24                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-12 22:57                               ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-12 22:57                                 ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-12 22:57                                 ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-15 12:29                                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-15 12:29                                   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-15 17:04                                   ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-15 17:04                                     ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-15 17:04                                     ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-15 12:30                               ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-15 12:30                                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-15 12:46                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-15 12:46                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-15 12:53                                   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-15 12:53                                     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-15 12:58                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-15 12:58                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-09 17:08       ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 17:08         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 17:08         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-09 17:22       ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-09 17:22         ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-19 13:25 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] mm/memcontrol.c: " Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-19 13:25   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-19 13:25   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-19 13:25   ` [PATCH v5 2/2] mm/memcontrol.c: Reduce reclaim retries in mem_cgroup_resize_limit() Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-19 13:25     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-19 13:35     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 13:35       ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 14:49       ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-19 14:49         ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-19 14:49         ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-19 15:11         ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 15:11           ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 15:11           ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 15:24           ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-19 15:24             ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-19 15:31             ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 15:31               ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 15:31               ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-21 20:17           ` Andrew Morton
2018-02-21 20:17             ` Andrew Morton
2018-02-22 13:50             ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-02-22 13:50               ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-02-22 14:09               ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-22 14:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-22 15:13                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-02-22 15:13                   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-02-22 15:33                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-22 15:33                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-22 15:38                     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-02-22 15:38                       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-02-22 15:44                       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-02-22 15:44                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-22 16:01                         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-02-22 16:01                           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-02-22 16:30                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-22 16:30                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 13:32   ` [PATCH v5 1/2] mm/memcontrol.c: try harder to decrease [memory,memsw].limit_in_bytes Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 13:32     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-19 13:32     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-25 19:44   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-01-25 19:44     ` Andrey Ryabinin

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