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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	robh@kernel.org, pawel.moll@arm.com,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	aik@ozlabs.ru, jasowang@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, joe@perches.com,
	"Rustad, Mark D" <mark.d.rustad@intel.com>,
	david@gibson.dropbear.id.au, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	elfring@users.sourceforge.net,
	Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC V2] virtio: Add platform specific DMA API translation for virito devices
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 00:41:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613074141.GA12033@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07b804fccd7373c650be79ac9fa77ae7f2375ced.camel@kernel.crashing.org>

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 01:29:18PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> At the risk of repeating myself, let's just do the first pass which is
> to switch virtio over to always using the DMA API in the actual data
> flow code, with a hook at initialization time that replaces the DMA ops
> with some home cooked "direct" ops in the case where the IOMMU flag
> isn't set.
> 
> This will be equivalent to what we have today but avoids having 2
> separate code path all over the driver.
> 
> Then a second stage, I think, is to replace this "hook" so that the
> architecture gets a say in the matter.

I don't think we can actually use dma_direct_ops.  It still allows
architectures to override parts of the dma setup, which virtio seems
to blindly assume phys == dma and not cache flushing.

I think the right way forward is to either add a new
VIRTIO_F_IS_PCI_DEVICE (or redefine the existing iommu flag if deemed
possible).  And then make sure recent qemu always sets it.

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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: robh@kernel.org, cohuck@redhat.com, pawel.moll@arm.com,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	joe@perches.com, "Rustad, Mark D" <mark.d.rustad@intel.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, elfring@users.sourceforge.net,
	david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [RFC V2] virtio: Add platform specific DMA API translation for virito devices
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 00:41:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613074141.GA12033@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07b804fccd7373c650be79ac9fa77ae7f2375ced.camel@kernel.crashing.org>

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 01:29:18PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> At the risk of repeating myself, let's just do the first pass which is
> to switch virtio over to always using the DMA API in the actual data
> flow code, with a hook at initialization time that replaces the DMA ops
> with some home cooked "direct" ops in the case where the IOMMU flag
> isn't set.
> 
> This will be equivalent to what we have today but avoids having 2
> separate code path all over the driver.
> 
> Then a second stage, I think, is to replace this "hook" so that the
> architecture gets a say in the matter.

I don't think we can actually use dma_direct_ops.  It still allows
architectures to override parts of the dma setup, which virtio seems
to blindly assume phys == dma and not cache flushing.

I think the right way forward is to either add a new
VIRTIO_F_IS_PCI_DEVICE (or redefine the existing iommu flag if deemed
possible).  And then make sure recent qemu always sets it.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-13  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-22  6:33 [RFC V2] virtio: Add platform specific DMA API translation for virito devices Anshuman Khandual
2018-05-23 18:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-23 18:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-23 22:27   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-05-23 22:27     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-05-24  7:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-24  7:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 17:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-28 23:48       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-05-28 23:48         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-05-28 23:56         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-05-28 23:56           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-05-29 14:03           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29 14:03           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29 22:13             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-05-29 22:13               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-05-25 17:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04  8:57     ` David Gibson
2018-06-04  8:57     ` David Gibson
2018-06-04  9:48       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-04  9:48         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-04 12:50         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 12:50         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05  1:52         ` David Gibson
2018-06-05  1:52         ` David Gibson
2018-06-04 12:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 12:55       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-04 13:14         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-04 13:14           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-04 16:34           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 16:34           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 12:55       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-04 13:11       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-04 13:11         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-04 16:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 23:26           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-04 23:26             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-05  1:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05  1:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05  4:52             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-05  4:52             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-04 16:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 12:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-24  7:21   ` Ram Pai
2018-05-31  3:39     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-05-31 17:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-31 17:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-07  5:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-07 16:28           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08  6:36             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-08  6:36             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-13 13:49               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 13:49                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-11  2:39             ` Ram Pai
2018-06-11  3:28               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-11  3:28                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-11  3:34                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-11  3:34                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-13 14:23                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 14:23                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-11  3:29               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-11  3:29                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-13  7:41                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-06-13  7:41                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-13 12:25                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-13 12:25                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-13 13:11                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-13 13:11                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-15  9:16                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-15  9:16                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-16  1:07                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-16  1:07                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-06-13 13:59                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 13:59                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 14:03                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 14:03                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-07 16:28           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-07  5:23         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-31  3:39     ` Anshuman Khandual
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2018-05-22  6:33 Anshuman Khandual

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