* System DT - thinking a sprint would help @ 2020-02-06 15:59 Steve McIntyre [not found] ` <010001701b769f8f-8cbe493b-840f-4055-a955-e7b1bebe87f6-000000@email.amazonses.com> [not found] ` <20200206155907.GQ6796-RWaXQMOneMVkKwkEErXb8g@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve McIntyre @ 2020-02-06 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3 Cc: Grant Likely, Arnd Bergmann, Olof Johansson, Frank Rowand, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Stefano Stabellini, Bruce Ashfield, Benjamin Gaignard Hi all! [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end ] Due to the Linux on Arm meetup this week, quite a few of our DT community happened to be in Cambridge together last night. We took the opportunity to get together for food and beer, and we naturally ended up mulling over a whole range of things, not least the ongoing System DT design work. As is the nature of this kind of gathering, we had a whole range of opinions and ideas, much more than I can faithfully recall to share here in great detail. Grant has been keen to try and keep system-dt compatible with Linux DT usage if that's possible, and Stefano has been working with that in mind. Rob is concerned about how things might scale with lots of domains, for example. Olof is keen to talk about a higher-level design to make it easier to express complex layouts. And so on. There is one thing that *did* stand out: we agreed that it's probably time to try and get all of the interested people in a room together for a few days with a whiteboard, to really thrash out what's needed and how to achieve it. With the right people, we can go through all our needs, pick up the ideas we have and hopefully get some prototypes ready to evaluate. So, who's interested? I believe all the people in CC here are likely keen to be involved. Anybody else? Although we have Linaro Connect in Budapest at the end of March, that's really *not* a good place to try and meet up, for a couple of reasons: not everybody will be there, and we'll have too many distractions to be able to focus on this. Let's *not* do that. AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time in the next 2-3 months: * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting. * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6 or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice, of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua? I'm open to other suggestions for time and venue. Let's try to make something work here? Cheers, Steve -- Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM SoCs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* RE: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help [not found] ` <010001701b769f8f-8cbe493b-840f-4055-a955-e7b1bebe87f6-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> @ 2020-02-06 17:48 ` Nathalie Chan King Choy [not found] ` <BYAPR02MB5621F0DA2DA2C69C318DE8C0A51D0-JPgLbEBPuzqwE48iOvlP/6nrV9Ap65cLvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Nathalie Chan King Choy @ 2020-02-06 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Francois Ozog, Steve McIntyre Cc: Stefano Stabellini, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, Bruce Ashfield, devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Benjamin Gaignard, Olof Johansson, Arnd Bergmann Hi Steve, Additional folks who spoke during the last System DT call & not shown on the CC list were: Loic from ST Etsam & Dan from MGC Tomas from Xilinx @Loic, Etsam, Dan, Tomas: Are you guys interested? Thanks & regards, Nathalie > -----Original Message----- > From: System-dt <system-dt-bounces@lists.openampproject.org> On Behalf > Of Francois Ozog via System-dt > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:05 AM > To: Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre@linaro.org> > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos@xilinx.com>; dte-all@linaro.org; Bruce > Ashfield <brucea@xilinx.com>; devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org; Rob > Herring <Rob.Herring@arm.com>; Mark Brown <mark.brown@arm.com>; > Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>; Olof Johansson > <olof@lixom.net>; system-dt@lists.openampproject.org; Arnd Bergmann > <arnd@linaro.org> > Subject: Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > count me in. > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 16:59, Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre@linaro.org> > wrote: > > > > Hi all! > > > > [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end ] > > > > Due to the Linux on Arm meetup this week, quite a few of our DT > > community happened to be in Cambridge together last night. We took the > > opportunity to get together for food and beer, and we naturally ended > > up mulling over a whole range of things, not least the ongoing System > > DT design work. > > > > As is the nature of this kind of gathering, we had a whole range of > > opinions and ideas, much more than I can faithfully recall to share > > here in great detail. Grant has been keen to try and keep system-dt > > compatible with Linux DT usage if that's possible, and Stefano has > > been working with that in mind. Rob is concerned about how things > > might scale with lots of domains, for example. Olof is keen to talk > > about a higher-level design to make it easier to express complex > > layouts. And so on. > > > > There is one thing that *did* stand out: we agreed that it's probably > > time to try and get all of the interested people in a room together > > for a few days with a whiteboard, to really thrash out what's needed > > and how to achieve it. With the right people, we can go through all > > our needs, pick up the ideas we have and hopefully get some prototypes > > ready to evaluate. > > > > So, who's interested? I believe all the people in CC here are likely > > keen to be involved. Anybody else? > > > > Although we have Linaro Connect in Budapest at the end of March, > > that's really *not* a good place to try and meet up, for a couple of > > reasons: not everybody will be there, and we'll have too many > > distractions to be able to focus on this. Let's *not* do that. > > > > AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and > > Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time > > in the next 2-3 months: > > > > * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th > > March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the > > UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting. > > > > * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding > > the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6 > > or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice, > > of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or > > another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua? > > > > I'm open to other suggestions for time and venue. Let's try to make > > something work here? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steve > > > > -- > > Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org > > <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM > > SoCs > > > > > > > -- > François-Frédéric Ozog | Director Linaro Edge & Fog Computing Group > T: +33.67221.6485 > francois.ozog@linaro.org | Skype: ffozog > -- > System-dt mailing list > System-dt@lists.openampproject.org > https://lists.openampproject.org/mailman/listinfo/system-dt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* RE: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help [not found] ` <BYAPR02MB5621F0DA2DA2C69C318DE8C0A51D0-JPgLbEBPuzqwE48iOvlP/6nrV9Ap65cLvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org> @ 2020-02-07 15:48 ` Loic PALLARDY [not found] ` <d276b22b6e8249bc9eda9f92f9f52f5f-GGltqRL9kSEdIAuSVraBWEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Loic PALLARDY @ 2020-02-07 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nathalie Chan King Choy, Francois Ozog, Steve McIntyre Cc: Stefano Stabellini, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, Bruce Ashfield, devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Benjamin Gaignard, Olof Johansson, Arnd Bergmann Hi Steve, Sure, ST is interested to participate to a sprint on System Device tree definition. I can propose ST Le Mans office to host this event in Europe (Direct train access from CDG airport, only 5min by walk from train station). Regards, Loic > -----Original Message----- > From: dte-interest@linaro.org <dte-interest@linaro.org> On Behalf Of > Nathalie Chan King Choy > Sent: jeudi 6 février 2020 18:48 > To: Francois Ozog <francois.ozog@linaro.org>; Steve McIntyre > <steve.mcintyre@linaro.org> > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos@xilinx.com>; dte-all@linaro.org; Bruce > Ashfield <brucea@xilinx.com>; devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org; Rob > Herring <Rob.Herring@arm.com>; Mark Brown <mark.brown@arm.com>; > Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>; Olof Johansson > <olof@lixom.net>; Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> > Subject: RE: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help > > Hi Steve, > > Additional folks who spoke during the last System DT call & not shown on the > CC list were: > Loic from ST > Etsam & Dan from MGC > Tomas from Xilinx > > @Loic, Etsam, Dan, Tomas: Are you guys interested? > > Thanks & regards, > Nathalie > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: System-dt <system-dt-bounces@lists.openampproject.org> On > Behalf > > Of Francois Ozog via System-dt > > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:05 AM > > To: Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre@linaro.org> > > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos@xilinx.com>; dte-all@linaro.org; Bruce > > Ashfield <brucea@xilinx.com>; devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org; Rob > > Herring <Rob.Herring@arm.com>; Mark Brown <mark.brown@arm.com>; > > Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>; Olof Johansson > > <olof@lixom.net>; system-dt@lists.openampproject.org; Arnd Bergmann > > <arnd@linaro.org> > > Subject: Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help > > > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > > > count me in. > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 16:59, Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre@linaro.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end ] > > > > > > Due to the Linux on Arm meetup this week, quite a few of our DT > > > community happened to be in Cambridge together last night. We took > the > > > opportunity to get together for food and beer, and we naturally ended > > > up mulling over a whole range of things, not least the ongoing System > > > DT design work. > > > > > > As is the nature of this kind of gathering, we had a whole range of > > > opinions and ideas, much more than I can faithfully recall to share > > > here in great detail. Grant has been keen to try and keep system-dt > > > compatible with Linux DT usage if that's possible, and Stefano has > > > been working with that in mind. Rob is concerned about how things > > > might scale with lots of domains, for example. Olof is keen to talk > > > about a higher-level design to make it easier to express complex > > > layouts. And so on. > > > > > > There is one thing that *did* stand out: we agreed that it's probably > > > time to try and get all of the interested people in a room together > > > for a few days with a whiteboard, to really thrash out what's needed > > > and how to achieve it. With the right people, we can go through all > > > our needs, pick up the ideas we have and hopefully get some prototypes > > > ready to evaluate. > > > > > > So, who's interested? I believe all the people in CC here are likely > > > keen to be involved. Anybody else? > > > > > > Although we have Linaro Connect in Budapest at the end of March, > > > that's really *not* a good place to try and meet up, for a couple of > > > reasons: not everybody will be there, and we'll have too many > > > distractions to be able to focus on this. Let's *not* do that. > > > > > > AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and > > > Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time > > > in the next 2-3 months: > > > > > > * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th > > > March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the > > > UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting. > > > > > > * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding > > > the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6 > > > or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice, > > > of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or > > > another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua? > > > > > > I'm open to other suggestions for time and venue. Let's try to make > > > something work here? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > -- > > > Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre@linaro.org > > > <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM > > > SoCs > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > François-Frédéric Ozog | Director Linaro Edge & Fog Computing Group > > T: +33.67221.6485 > > francois.ozog@linaro.org | Skype: ffozog > > -- > > System-dt mailing list > > System-dt@lists.openampproject.org > > https://lists.openampproject.org/mailman/listinfo/system-dt > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help [not found] ` <d276b22b6e8249bc9eda9f92f9f52f5f-GGltqRL9kSEdIAuSVraBWEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> @ 2020-02-07 19:08 ` Steve McIntyre [not found] ` <20200207190841.GE32331-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve McIntyre @ 2020-02-07 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Loic PALLARDY Cc: Nathalie Chan King Choy, Francois Ozog, Stefano Stabellini, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, Bruce Ashfield, devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Benjamin Gaignard, Olof Johansson, Arnd Bergmann Hey Loic, Cool, that's very helpful thanks! :-) I'm building a spreadsheet of possible dates now as people share their availability. </hint> Cheers, Steve On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:48:45PM +0000, Loic PALLARDY wrote: >Hi Steve, > >Sure, ST is interested to participate to a sprint on System Device tree definition. >I can propose ST Le Mans office to host this event in Europe (Direct train access from CDG airport, only 5min by walk from train station). > >Regards, >Loic > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dte-interest-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org <dte-interest-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> On Behalf Of >> Nathalie Chan King Choy >> Sent: jeudi 6 février 2020 18:48 >> To: Francois Ozog <francois.ozog-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Steve McIntyre >> <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> >> Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; Bruce >> Ashfield <brucea-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Rob >> Herring <Rob.Herring-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; Mark Brown <mark.brown-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; >> Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Olof Johansson >> <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>; Arnd Bergmann <arnd-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> >> Subject: RE: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help >> >> Hi Steve, >> >> Additional folks who spoke during the last System DT call & not shown on the >> CC list were: >> Loic from ST >> Etsam & Dan from MGC >> Tomas from Xilinx >> >> @Loic, Etsam, Dan, Tomas: Are you guys interested? >> >> Thanks & regards, >> Nathalie >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: System-dt <system-dt-bounces-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3@public.gmane.org> On >> Behalf >> > Of Francois Ozog via System-dt >> > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:05 AM >> > To: Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> >> > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; Bruce >> > Ashfield <brucea-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Rob >> > Herring <Rob.Herring-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; Mark Brown <mark.brown-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; >> > Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Olof Johansson >> > <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>; system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3@public.gmane.org; Arnd Bergmann >> > <arnd-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> >> > Subject: Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help >> > >> > EXTERNAL EMAIL >> > >> > count me in. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 16:59, Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi all! >> > > >> > > [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end ] >> > > >> > > Due to the Linux on Arm meetup this week, quite a few of our DT >> > > community happened to be in Cambridge together last night. We took >> the >> > > opportunity to get together for food and beer, and we naturally ended >> > > up mulling over a whole range of things, not least the ongoing System >> > > DT design work. >> > > >> > > As is the nature of this kind of gathering, we had a whole range of >> > > opinions and ideas, much more than I can faithfully recall to share >> > > here in great detail. Grant has been keen to try and keep system-dt >> > > compatible with Linux DT usage if that's possible, and Stefano has >> > > been working with that in mind. Rob is concerned about how things >> > > might scale with lots of domains, for example. Olof is keen to talk >> > > about a higher-level design to make it easier to express complex >> > > layouts. And so on. >> > > >> > > There is one thing that *did* stand out: we agreed that it's probably >> > > time to try and get all of the interested people in a room together >> > > for a few days with a whiteboard, to really thrash out what's needed >> > > and how to achieve it. With the right people, we can go through all >> > > our needs, pick up the ideas we have and hopefully get some prototypes >> > > ready to evaluate. >> > > >> > > So, who's interested? I believe all the people in CC here are likely >> > > keen to be involved. Anybody else? >> > > >> > > Although we have Linaro Connect in Budapest at the end of March, >> > > that's really *not* a good place to try and meet up, for a couple of >> > > reasons: not everybody will be there, and we'll have too many >> > > distractions to be able to focus on this. Let's *not* do that. >> > > >> > > AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and >> > > Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time >> > > in the next 2-3 months: >> > > >> > > * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th >> > > March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the >> > > UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting. >> > > >> > > * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding >> > > the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6 >> > > or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice, >> > > of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or >> > > another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua? >> > > >> > > I'm open to other suggestions for time and venue. Let's try to make >> > > something work here? >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > >> > > Steve >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org >> > > <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM >> > > SoCs >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > François-Frédéric Ozog | Director Linaro Edge & Fog Computing Group >> > T: +33.67221.6485 >> > francois.ozog-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org | Skype: ffozog >> > -- >> > System-dt mailing list >> > System-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3@public.gmane.org >> > https://lists.openampproject.org/mailman/listinfo/system-dt >> > Cheers, -- Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM SoCs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help [not found] ` <20200207190841.GE32331-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2020-02-08 1:39 ` Stefano Stabellini 2020-02-08 17:37 ` Steve McIntyre 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Stefano Stabellini @ 2020-02-08 1:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Steve McIntyre Cc: Loic PALLARDY, Nathalie Chan King Choy, Francois Ozog, Stefano Stabellini, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, Bruce Ashfield, devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Benjamin Gaignard, Olof Johansson, Arnd Bergmann, tomase-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA, nathalie-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA, system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 6521 bytes --] Hi Steve, A sprint sounds like a good idea. Xilinx would be very happy to host it here in San Jose, both March 2-6 (preferred) or March 9-13 would work. Otherwise, it would be challenging for Tomas and me to join a meeting in Europe outside of Linaro Connect. I know you suggested to rule out Linaro Connect, but I think we could make it work as a focused colocated event in Budapest the same week. Could that be an option? Cheers, Stefano On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hey Loic, > > Cool, that's very helpful thanks! :-) > > I'm building a spreadsheet of possible dates now as people share their > availability. </hint> > > Cheers, > > Steve > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:48:45PM +0000, Loic PALLARDY wrote: > >Hi Steve, > > > >Sure, ST is interested to participate to a sprint on System Device tree definition. > >I can propose ST Le Mans office to host this event in Europe (Direct train access from CDG airport, only 5min by walk from train station). > > > >Regards, > >Loic > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: dte-interest-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org <dte-interest-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> On Behalf Of > >> Nathalie Chan King Choy > >> Sent: jeudi 6 février 2020 18:48 > >> To: Francois Ozog <francois.ozog-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Steve McIntyre > >> <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> > >> Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; Bruce > >> Ashfield <brucea-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Rob > >> Herring <Rob.Herring-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; Mark Brown <mark.brown-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; > >> Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Olof Johansson > >> <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>; Arnd Bergmann <arnd-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> > >> Subject: RE: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help > >> > >> Hi Steve, > >> > >> Additional folks who spoke during the last System DT call & not shown on the > >> CC list were: > >> Loic from ST > >> Etsam & Dan from MGC > >> Tomas from Xilinx > >> > >> @Loic, Etsam, Dan, Tomas: Are you guys interested? > >> > >> Thanks & regards, > >> Nathalie > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: System-dt <system-dt-bounces-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3@public.gmane.org> On > >> Behalf > >> > Of Francois Ozog via System-dt > >> > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:05 AM > >> > To: Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> > >> > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; Bruce > >> > Ashfield <brucea-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Rob > >> > Herring <Rob.Herring-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; Mark Brown <mark.brown-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; > >> > Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Olof Johansson > >> > <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>; system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3@public.gmane.org; Arnd Bergmann > >> > <arnd-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> > >> > Subject: Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help > >> > > >> > EXTERNAL EMAIL > >> > > >> > count me in. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 16:59, Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre@linaro.org> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Hi all! > >> > > > >> > > [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end ] > >> > > > >> > > Due to the Linux on Arm meetup this week, quite a few of our DT > >> > > community happened to be in Cambridge together last night. We took > >> the > >> > > opportunity to get together for food and beer, and we naturally ended > >> > > up mulling over a whole range of things, not least the ongoing System > >> > > DT design work. > >> > > > >> > > As is the nature of this kind of gathering, we had a whole range of > >> > > opinions and ideas, much more than I can faithfully recall to share > >> > > here in great detail. Grant has been keen to try and keep system-dt > >> > > compatible with Linux DT usage if that's possible, and Stefano has > >> > > been working with that in mind. Rob is concerned about how things > >> > > might scale with lots of domains, for example. Olof is keen to talk > >> > > about a higher-level design to make it easier to express complex > >> > > layouts. And so on. > >> > > > >> > > There is one thing that *did* stand out: we agreed that it's probably > >> > > time to try and get all of the interested people in a room together > >> > > for a few days with a whiteboard, to really thrash out what's needed > >> > > and how to achieve it. With the right people, we can go through all > >> > > our needs, pick up the ideas we have and hopefully get some prototypes > >> > > ready to evaluate. > >> > > > >> > > So, who's interested? I believe all the people in CC here are likely > >> > > keen to be involved. Anybody else? > >> > > > >> > > Although we have Linaro Connect in Budapest at the end of March, > >> > > that's really *not* a good place to try and meet up, for a couple of > >> > > reasons: not everybody will be there, and we'll have too many > >> > > distractions to be able to focus on this. Let's *not* do that. > >> > > > >> > > AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and > >> > > Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time > >> > > in the next 2-3 months: > >> > > > >> > > * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th > >> > > March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the > >> > > UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting. > >> > > > >> > > * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding > >> > > the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6 > >> > > or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice, > >> > > of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or > >> > > another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua? > >> > > > >> > > I'm open to other suggestions for time and venue. Let's try to make > >> > > something work here? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help 2020-02-08 1:39 ` Stefano Stabellini @ 2020-02-08 17:37 ` Steve McIntyre 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve McIntyre @ 2020-02-08 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefano Stabellini Cc: Loic PALLARDY, Nathalie Chan King Choy, Francois Ozog, Stefano Stabellini, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, Bruce Ashfield, devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Benjamin Gaignard, Olof Johansson, Arnd Bergmann, tomase-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA, system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3 Hey Stefano! On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 05:39:43PM -0800, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > >A sprint sounds like a good idea. Xilinx would be very happy to host it >here in San Jose, both March 2-6 (preferred) or March 9-13 would work. > >Otherwise, it would be challenging for Tomas and me to join a meeting in >Europe outside of Linaro Connect. I know you suggested to rule out >Linaro Connect, but I think we could make it work as a focused colocated >event in Budapest the same week. Could that be an option? No, really not. Talking with people here on Wednesday, we all agreed that Connect would be a bad plan. It's basically impossible for lots of the people involved to avoid distractions and meetings that week. You might manage a couple of hours, but not the focus week we think we need. -- Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM SoCs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: System DT - thinking a sprint would help [not found] ` <20200206155907.GQ6796-RWaXQMOneMVkKwkEErXb8g@public.gmane.org> @ 2020-02-06 17:04 ` Francois Ozog 2020-02-10 11:17 ` Grant Likely 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Francois Ozog @ 2020-02-06 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Steve McIntyre Cc: devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3, Grant Likely, Arnd Bergmann, Olof Johansson, Frank Rowand, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Stefano Stabellini, Bruce Ashfield, Benjamin Gaignard count me in. On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 16:59, Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Hi all! > > [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end ] > > Due to the Linux on Arm meetup this week, quite a few of our DT > community happened to be in Cambridge together last night. We took the > opportunity to get together for food and beer, and we naturally ended > up mulling over a whole range of things, not least the ongoing System > DT design work. > > As is the nature of this kind of gathering, we had a whole range of > opinions and ideas, much more than I can faithfully recall to share > here in great detail. Grant has been keen to try and keep system-dt > compatible with Linux DT usage if that's possible, and Stefano has > been working with that in mind. Rob is concerned about how things > might scale with lots of domains, for example. Olof is keen to talk > about a higher-level design to make it easier to express complex > layouts. And so on. > > There is one thing that *did* stand out: we agreed that it's probably > time to try and get all of the interested people in a room together > for a few days with a whiteboard, to really thrash out what's needed > and how to achieve it. With the right people, we can go through all > our needs, pick up the ideas we have and hopefully get some prototypes > ready to evaluate. > > So, who's interested? I believe all the people in CC here are likely > keen to be involved. Anybody else? > > Although we have Linaro Connect in Budapest at the end of March, > that's really *not* a good place to try and meet up, for a couple of > reasons: not everybody will be there, and we'll have too many > distractions to be able to focus on this. Let's *not* do that. > > AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and > Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time > in the next 2-3 months: > > * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th > March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the > UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting. > > * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding > the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6 > or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice, > of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or > another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua? > > I'm open to other suggestions for time and venue. Let's try to make > something work here? > > Cheers, > > Steve > > -- > Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM SoCs > > -- François-Frédéric Ozog | Director Linaro Edge & Fog Computing Group T: +33.67221.6485 francois.ozog-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org | Skype: ffozog ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: System DT - thinking a sprint would help [not found] ` <20200206155907.GQ6796-RWaXQMOneMVkKwkEErXb8g@public.gmane.org> 2020-02-06 17:04 ` Francois Ozog @ 2020-02-10 11:17 ` Grant Likely [not found] ` <3a06abe9-b8b7-0157-d881-f5e19176fc2f-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Grant Likely @ 2020-02-10 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Steve McIntyre, devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3 Cc: Arnd Bergmann, Olof Johansson, Frank Rowand, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Stefano Stabellini, Bruce Ashfield, Benjamin Gaignard On 06/02/2020 15:59, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hi all! > > [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end [...] > > AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and > Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time > in the next 2-3 months: > > * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th > March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the > UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting. The week before isn't great, but the week after would work. I would want to travel home over the weekend. > * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding > the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6 > or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice, > of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or > another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua? The 2nd-3rd could work for me. I may already be traveling to California for this week to attend OCP Summit (4th-5th March) and the LF Member Meeting 10th-12th. g. IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: System DT - thinking a sprint would help [not found] ` <3a06abe9-b8b7-0157-d881-f5e19176fc2f-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> @ 2020-02-10 14:28 ` Steve McIntyre [not found] ` <20200210142812.GA18978-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Steve McIntyre @ 2020-02-10 14:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Grant Likely Cc: devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3, Arnd Bergmann, Olof Johansson, Frank Rowand, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Stefano Stabellini, Bruce Ashfield, Benjamin Gaignard On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 11:17:35AM +0000, Grant Likely wrote: >On 06/02/2020 15:59, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end [...] >> > AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and >> Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time >> in the next 2-3 months: >> >> * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th >> March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the >> UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting. > >The week before isn't great, but the week after would work. I would want >to travel home over the weekend. > >> * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding >> the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6 >> or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice, >> of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or >> another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua? > >The 2nd-3rd could work for me. I may already be traveling to California >for this week to attend OCP Summit (4th-5th March) and the LF Member >Meeting 10th-12th. Thanks Grant! Any more dates please? Feel free to just mail me privately rather than to the lists - I'm filling in the data provided into a spreadsheet to help with planning. Cheers, -- Steve McIntyre steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM SoCs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: System DT - thinking a sprint would help [not found] ` <20200210142812.GA18978-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2020-02-10 15:52 ` Grant Likely 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Grant Likely @ 2020-02-10 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Steve McIntyre Cc: devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3, Arnd Bergmann, Olof Johansson, Frank Rowand, Rob Herring, Mark Brown, Stefano Stabellini, Bruce Ashfield, Benjamin Gaignard On 10/02/2020 14:28, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 11:17:35AM +0000, Grant Likely wrote: >> On 06/02/2020 15:59, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>> Hi all! >>> >>> [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end [...] >>>> AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and >>> Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time >>> in the next 2-3 months: >>> >>> * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th >>> March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the >>> UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting. >> >> The week before isn't great, but the week after would work. I would want >> to travel home over the weekend. >> >>> * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding >>> the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6 >>> or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice, >>> of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or >>> another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua? >> >> The 2nd-3rd could work for me. I may already be traveling to California >> for this week to attend OCP Summit (4th-5th March) and the LF Member >> Meeting 10th-12th. > > Thanks Grant! > > Any more dates please? Feel free to just mail me privately rather than > to the lists - I'm filling in the data provided into a spreadsheet to > help with planning. The rest of March is pretty much out for me. April isn't looking much better due to school term Easter break, but things start to open up at the end of April. I may be traveling to the US for Arm ServerReady event 27th-29th April. g. IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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