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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@linux.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	eranian@google.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au, paulus@samba.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, jolsa@redhat.com,
	namhyung@kernel.org, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
	kan.liang@linux.intel.com, alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com,
	yao.jin@linux.intel.com, robert.richter@amd.com,
	kim.phillips@amd.com, maddy@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/11] perf: Enhancing perf to export processor hazard information
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 17:33:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200303013329.GB1319864@tassilo.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200302101332.GS18400@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:13:32AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 10:53:44AM +0530, Ravi Bangoria wrote:
> > Modern processors export such hazard data in Performance
> > Monitoring Unit (PMU) registers. Ex, 'Sampled Instruction Event
> > Register' on IBM PowerPC[1][2] and 'Instruction-Based Sampling' on
> > AMD[3] provides similar information.
> > 
> > Implementation detail:
> > 
> > A new sample_type called PERF_SAMPLE_PIPELINE_HAZ is introduced.
> > If it's set, kernel converts arch specific hazard information
> > into generic format:
> > 
> >   struct perf_pipeline_haz_data {
> >          /* Instruction/Opcode type: Load, Store, Branch .... */
> >          __u8    itype;
> >          /* Instruction Cache source */
> >          __u8    icache;
> >          /* Instruction suffered hazard in pipeline stage */
> >          __u8    hazard_stage;
> >          /* Hazard reason */
> >          __u8    hazard_reason;
> >          /* Instruction suffered stall in pipeline stage */
> >          __u8    stall_stage;
> >          /* Stall reason */
> >          __u8    stall_reason;
> >          __u16   pad;
> >   };
> 
> Kim, does this format indeed work for AMD IBS?

Intel PEBS has a similar concept for annotation of memory accesses,
which is already exported through perf_mem_data_src. This is essentially
an extension. It would be better to have something unified here. 
Right now it seems to duplicate at least part of the PEBS facility.

-Andi


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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@linux.ibm.com>,
	maddy@linux.ibm.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	jolsa@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	eranian@google.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
	robert.richter@amd.com, yao.jin@linux.intel.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, paulus@samba.org, acme@kernel.org,
	namhyung@kernel.org, kim.phillips@amd.com,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com,
	kan.liang@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/11] perf: Enhancing perf to export processor hazard information
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 17:33:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200303013329.GB1319864@tassilo.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200302101332.GS18400@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:13:32AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 10:53:44AM +0530, Ravi Bangoria wrote:
> > Modern processors export such hazard data in Performance
> > Monitoring Unit (PMU) registers. Ex, 'Sampled Instruction Event
> > Register' on IBM PowerPC[1][2] and 'Instruction-Based Sampling' on
> > AMD[3] provides similar information.
> > 
> > Implementation detail:
> > 
> > A new sample_type called PERF_SAMPLE_PIPELINE_HAZ is introduced.
> > If it's set, kernel converts arch specific hazard information
> > into generic format:
> > 
> >   struct perf_pipeline_haz_data {
> >          /* Instruction/Opcode type: Load, Store, Branch .... */
> >          __u8    itype;
> >          /* Instruction Cache source */
> >          __u8    icache;
> >          /* Instruction suffered hazard in pipeline stage */
> >          __u8    hazard_stage;
> >          /* Hazard reason */
> >          __u8    hazard_reason;
> >          /* Instruction suffered stall in pipeline stage */
> >          __u8    stall_stage;
> >          /* Stall reason */
> >          __u8    stall_reason;
> >          __u16   pad;
> >   };
> 
> Kim, does this format indeed work for AMD IBS?

Intel PEBS has a similar concept for annotation of memory accesses,
which is already exported through perf_mem_data_src. This is essentially
an extension. It would be better to have something unified here. 
Right now it seems to duplicate at least part of the PEBS facility.

-Andi


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-03  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-02  5:23 [RFC 00/11] perf: Enhancing perf to export processor hazard information Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 01/11] powerpc/perf: Simplify ISA207_SIER macros Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 02/11] perf/core: Data structure to present hazard data Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  9:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-02  9:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-02 14:23     ` maddy
2020-03-02 14:23       ` maddy
2020-03-02 14:48   ` Mark Rutland
2020-03-02 14:48     ` Mark Rutland
2020-03-03 14:32     ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-03 14:32       ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02 14:54   ` Mark Rutland
2020-03-02 14:54     ` Mark Rutland
2020-03-03 14:31     ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-03 14:31       ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 03/11] powerpc/perf: Arch specific definitions for pipeline Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 04/11] powerpc/perf: Arch support to expose Hazard data Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 05/11] perf tools: Enable record and script to record and show hazard data Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 06/11] perf hists: Make a room for hazard info in struct hist_entry Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 07/11] perf hazard: Functions to convert generic hazard data to arch specific string Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 08/11] perf report: Enable hazard mode Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 09/11] perf annotate: Introduce type for annotation_line Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 10/11] perf annotate: Preparation for hazard Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23 ` [RFC 11/11] perf annotate: Show hazard data in tui mode Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02  5:23   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02 10:13 ` [RFC 00/11] perf: Enhancing perf to export processor hazard information Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-02 10:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-02 20:21   ` Stephane Eranian
2020-03-02 20:21     ` Stephane Eranian
2020-03-02 22:25     ` Kim Phillips
2020-03-02 22:25       ` Kim Phillips
2020-03-05  4:46       ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-05  4:46         ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-05 22:06         ` Kim Phillips
2020-03-05 22:06           ` Kim Phillips
2020-03-11 16:00           ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-12 22:38             ` Kim Phillips
2020-03-12 22:38               ` Kim Phillips
2020-03-17  6:50               ` maddy
2020-03-17  6:50                 ` maddy
2020-03-18 17:35                 ` Kim Phillips
2020-03-18 17:35                   ` Kim Phillips
2020-03-19 11:22                   ` Michael Ellerman
2020-03-19 11:22                     ` Michael Ellerman
2020-03-26 10:19                   ` maddy
2020-03-26 10:19                     ` maddy
2020-03-26 19:48                     ` Kim Phillips
2020-03-26 19:48                       ` Kim Phillips
2020-04-20  7:09                       ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2020-04-20  7:09                         ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2020-04-27  7:18                         ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2020-04-27  7:18                           ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2020-03-05  4:28     ` maddy
2020-03-05  4:28       ` maddy
2020-03-03  1:33   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2020-03-03  1:33     ` Andi Kleen
2020-03-05  5:06     ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-05  5:06       ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-02 21:08 ` Paul Clarke
2020-03-02 21:08   ` Paul Clarke
2020-03-05  5:06   ` Ravi Bangoria
2020-03-05  5:06     ` Ravi Bangoria

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