From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Zhangfei Gao <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>,
Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
jean-philippe <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
kenneth-lee-2012@foxmail.com, Wangzhou <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Introduce PCI_FIXUP_IOMMU
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 12:41:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200601174104.GA734973@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200528073344.GO5221@8bytes.org>
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:33:44AM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 01:18:42PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > Is this slowdown significant? We already iterate over every device
> > when applying PCI_FIXUP_FINAL quirks, so if we used the existing
> > PCI_FIXUP_FINAL, we wouldn't be adding a new loop. We would only be
> > adding two more iterations to the loop in pci_do_fixups() that tries
> > to match quirks against the current device. I doubt that would be a
> > measurable slowdown.
>
> I don't know how significant it is, but I remember people complaining
> about adding new PCI quirks because it takes too long for them to run
> them all. That was in the discussion about the quirk disabling ATS on
> AMD Stoney systems.
>
> So it probably depends on how many PCI devices are in the system whether
> it causes any measureable slowdown.
I found this [1] from Paul Menzel, which was a slowdown caused by
quirk_usb_early_handoff(). I think the real problem is individual
quirks that take a long time.
The PCI_FIXUP_IOMMU things we're talking about should be fast, and of
course, they're only run for matching devices anyway. So I'd rather
keep them as PCI_FIXUP_FINAL than add a whole new phase.
Bjorn
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/b1533fd5-1fae-7256-9597-36d3d5de9d2a@molgen.mpg.de/
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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: jean-philippe <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
kenneth-lee-2012@foxmail.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Zhangfei Gao <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Introduce PCI_FIXUP_IOMMU
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 12:41:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200601174104.GA734973@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200528073344.GO5221@8bytes.org>
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:33:44AM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 01:18:42PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > Is this slowdown significant? We already iterate over every device
> > when applying PCI_FIXUP_FINAL quirks, so if we used the existing
> > PCI_FIXUP_FINAL, we wouldn't be adding a new loop. We would only be
> > adding two more iterations to the loop in pci_do_fixups() that tries
> > to match quirks against the current device. I doubt that would be a
> > measurable slowdown.
>
> I don't know how significant it is, but I remember people complaining
> about adding new PCI quirks because it takes too long for them to run
> them all. That was in the discussion about the quirk disabling ATS on
> AMD Stoney systems.
>
> So it probably depends on how many PCI devices are in the system whether
> it causes any measureable slowdown.
I found this [1] from Paul Menzel, which was a slowdown caused by
quirk_usb_early_handoff(). I think the real problem is individual
quirks that take a long time.
The PCI_FIXUP_IOMMU things we're talking about should be fast, and of
course, they're only run for matching devices anyway. So I'd rather
keep them as PCI_FIXUP_FINAL than add a whole new phase.
Bjorn
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/b1533fd5-1fae-7256-9597-36d3d5de9d2a@molgen.mpg.de/
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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: jean-philippe <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@huawei.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
kenneth-lee-2012@foxmail.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
Wangzhou <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Zhangfei Gao <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Introduce PCI_FIXUP_IOMMU
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 12:41:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200601174104.GA734973@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200528073344.GO5221@8bytes.org>
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:33:44AM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 01:18:42PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > Is this slowdown significant? We already iterate over every device
> > when applying PCI_FIXUP_FINAL quirks, so if we used the existing
> > PCI_FIXUP_FINAL, we wouldn't be adding a new loop. We would only be
> > adding two more iterations to the loop in pci_do_fixups() that tries
> > to match quirks against the current device. I doubt that would be a
> > measurable slowdown.
>
> I don't know how significant it is, but I remember people complaining
> about adding new PCI quirks because it takes too long for them to run
> them all. That was in the discussion about the quirk disabling ATS on
> AMD Stoney systems.
>
> So it probably depends on how many PCI devices are in the system whether
> it causes any measureable slowdown.
I found this [1] from Paul Menzel, which was a slowdown caused by
quirk_usb_early_handoff(). I think the real problem is individual
quirks that take a long time.
The PCI_FIXUP_IOMMU things we're talking about should be fast, and of
course, they're only run for matching devices anyway. So I'd rather
keep them as PCI_FIXUP_FINAL than add a whole new phase.
Bjorn
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/b1533fd5-1fae-7256-9597-36d3d5de9d2a@molgen.mpg.de/
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Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-26 11:49 [PATCH 0/2] Introduce PCI_FIXUP_IOMMU Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 11:49 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 11:49 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 11:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] PCI: " Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 11:49 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 11:49 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 14:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-26 14:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-26 14:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-26 15:09 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 15:09 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 15:09 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-27 9:01 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-27 9:01 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-27 9:01 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-26 11:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] iommu: calling pci_fixup_iommu in iommu_fwspec_init Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 11:49 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-26 11:49 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-27 9:01 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-27 9:01 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-27 9:01 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-28 6:53 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-28 6:53 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-28 6:53 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-27 9:00 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce PCI_FIXUP_IOMMU Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-27 9:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-27 9:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-27 9:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-27 9:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-27 9:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-27 13:51 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-27 13:51 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-27 13:51 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-27 18:18 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-27 18:18 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-27 18:18 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-28 6:46 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-28 6:46 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-28 6:46 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-05-28 7:33 ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-28 7:33 ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-28 7:33 ` Joerg Roedel
2020-06-01 17:41 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2020-06-01 17:41 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-01 17:41 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-04 13:33 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-04 13:33 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-04 13:33 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-05 23:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-05 23:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-05 23:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-08 2:54 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-08 2:54 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-08 2:54 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-08 16:41 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-08 16:41 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-08 16:41 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-09 4:01 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-09 4:01 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-09 4:01 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-09 9:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-09 9:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-09 9:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-09 16:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-09 16:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-09 16:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-11 2:54 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-11 2:54 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-11 2:54 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-11 13:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-11 13:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-11 13:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-13 14:30 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-13 14:30 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-13 14:30 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-15 23:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-15 23:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-15 23:52 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-19 2:26 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-19 2:26 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-19 2:26 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-23 15:04 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-23 15:04 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-23 15:04 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-12-16 11:24 ` Zhou Wang
2020-12-16 11:24 ` Zhou Wang
2020-12-16 11:24 ` Zhou Wang
2020-12-17 20:38 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-12-17 20:38 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-12-17 20:38 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-12 6:49 ` [PATCH] PCI: Add a quirk to enable SVA for HiSilicon chip Zhangfei Gao
2021-01-12 17:02 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-13 12:05 ` Zhangfei Gao
2021-01-13 14:39 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-01-12 7:05 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce PCI_FIXUP_IOMMU zhangfei.gao
2021-01-12 7:05 ` zhangfei.gao
2020-06-22 11:55 ` Joerg Roedel
2020-06-22 11:55 ` Joerg Roedel
2020-06-23 7:48 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-23 7:48 ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-06-22 11:53 ` Joerg Roedel
2020-06-22 11:53 ` Joerg Roedel
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