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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Kiran Patil <kiran.patil@intel.com>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Shiraz Saleem <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>,
	Martin Habets <mhabets@solarflare.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	Fred Oh <fred.oh@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Ertman <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>,
	lee.jones@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [resend/standalone PATCH v4] Add auxiliary bus support
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:47:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210105154756.GF4487@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210105143627.GT552508@nvidia.com>

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On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 10:36:27AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 01:42:56PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:

> > You're missing the point there.  I2C is enumerated by firmware in
> > exactly the same way as the platform bus is, it's not discoverable from
> > the hardware (and similarly for a bunch of other buses).  If we were to

> No, I understand how I2C works and I think it is fine as is because
> the enumeration outcome is all standard. You always end up with a
> stable I2C device address (the name) and you always end up with the
> I2C programming API. So it doesn't matter how I2C gets enumerated, it
> is always an I2C device.

I don't follow this logic at all, sorry - whatever the platonic ideal of
what a platform device actually turns out to be when we get down to
using the hardware it's the same hardware which we interact with in the
same way no matter how we figured out that it was present.

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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	lee.jones@linaro.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kiran Patil <kiran.patil@intel.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Martin Habets <mhabets@solarflare.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	Fred Oh <fred.oh@linux.intel.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Dave Ertman <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Shiraz Saleem <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [resend/standalone PATCH v4] Add auxiliary bus support
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:47:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210105154756.GF4487@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210105143627.GT552508@nvidia.com>

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On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 10:36:27AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 01:42:56PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote:

> > You're missing the point there.  I2C is enumerated by firmware in
> > exactly the same way as the platform bus is, it's not discoverable from
> > the hardware (and similarly for a bunch of other buses).  If we were to

> No, I understand how I2C works and I think it is fine as is because
> the enumeration outcome is all standard. You always end up with a
> stable I2C device address (the name) and you always end up with the
> I2C programming API. So it doesn't matter how I2C gets enumerated, it
> is always an I2C device.

I don't follow this logic at all, sorry - whatever the platonic ideal of
what a platform device actually turns out to be when we get down to
using the hardware it's the same hardware which we interact with in the
same way no matter how we figured out that it was present.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-05 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-03  0:54 [resend/standalone PATCH v4] Add auxiliary bus support Dan Williams
2020-12-03  0:54 ` Dan Williams
2020-12-03 15:06 ` Greg KH
2020-12-03 15:06   ` Greg KH
2020-12-04  2:33   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04  2:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04  3:37     ` Dan Williams
2020-12-04  3:37       ` Dan Williams
2020-12-03 15:07 ` Greg KH
2020-12-03 15:07   ` Greg KH
2020-12-03 15:55   ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-03 15:55     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 11:42 ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:42   ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:43   ` [PATCH 1/3] driver core: auxiliary bus: move slab.h from include file Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:43     ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:44     ` [PATCH 2/3] driver core: auxiliary bus: make remove function return void Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:44       ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:44       ` [PATCH 3/3] driver core: auxiliary bus: minor coding style tweaks Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:44         ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:48         ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:48           ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:49       ` [PATCH v2 " Greg KH
2020-12-04 11:49         ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 12:32   ` [resend/standalone PATCH v4] Add auxiliary bus support Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 12:32     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 12:43     ` Parav Pandit
2020-12-04 12:43       ` Parav Pandit
2020-12-04 12:59     ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 12:59       ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 17:10       ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-12-04 17:10         ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-12-05  9:02         ` Greg KH
2020-12-05  9:02           ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 16:41   ` Dan Williams
2020-12-04 16:41     ` Dan Williams
2020-12-05 15:51     ` Greg KH
2020-12-05 15:51       ` Greg KH
2020-12-17 21:19       ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-17 21:19         ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18  2:39         ` Dan Williams
2020-12-18  2:39           ` Dan Williams
2020-12-18 14:20           ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 14:20             ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18  7:10         ` Greg KH
2020-12-18  7:10           ` Greg KH
2020-12-18 13:17           ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 13:17             ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 13:46             ` Lee Jones
2020-12-18 13:46               ` Lee Jones
2020-12-18 14:08             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 14:08               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 15:52               ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 15:52                 ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 16:28                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 16:28                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 17:15                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18 17:15                     ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18 18:03                   ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 18:03                     ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 18:41                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 18:41                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 19:09                       ` Lee Jones
2020-12-18 19:09                         ` Lee Jones
2020-12-18 20:14                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 20:14                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 20:32                       ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 20:32                         ` Mark Brown
2020-12-18 20:58                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 20:58                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 21:16                           ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18 21:16                             ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-18 22:36                             ` Dan Williams
2020-12-18 22:36                               ` Dan Williams
2020-12-18 23:36                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-18 23:36                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-19  0:22                               ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-19  0:22                                 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-21 18:51                           ` Mark Brown
2020-12-21 18:51                             ` Mark Brown
2021-01-04 18:08                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-04 18:08                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-04 21:19                               ` Mark Brown
2021-01-04 21:19                                 ` Mark Brown
2021-01-05  0:13                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05  0:13                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05  0:51                                   ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  0:51                                     ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  1:53                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05  1:53                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05  3:12                                       ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05  3:12                                         ` Dan Williams
2021-01-05 12:49                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 12:49                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 13:42                                   ` Mark Brown
2021-01-05 13:42                                     ` Mark Brown
2021-01-05 14:36                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 14:36                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 15:47                                       ` Mark Brown [this message]
2021-01-05 15:47                                         ` Mark Brown
2020-12-04 12:35 ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 12:35   ` Greg KH
2020-12-04 12:54   ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 12:54     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-12-04 16:25     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-04 16:25       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-04 17:57       ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-12-04 17:57         ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-12-04 18:05   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-12-04 18:05     ` Ranjani Sridharan
2020-12-06  0:24 ` David Ahern
2020-12-06  0:24   ` David Ahern
2020-12-06  0:32   ` Dan Williams
2020-12-06  0:32     ` Dan Williams

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