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From: Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	tomi.valkeinen@ti.com, b.zolnierkie@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] Kconfig : Remove HAS_IOMEM dependency for Graphics support
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:39:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2170dce6-4456-3ab6-d07c-2169d99c4173@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c1daae4-e1f6-5627-9023-f03d986c5639@de.ibm.com>



On 02/21/2018 07:11 AM, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/21/2018 01:07 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> [...]
>>>> But if you need to enable PCI to get IOMEM, I wonder why this patch here
>>>> is needed at all? The Graphics menu / VT dummy console should be
>>>> available in the config if IOMEM is enabled anyway?
>>>
>>> That is a good question. With CONFIG_PCI=y I can select virtio-gpu and dummy-console.
>>> IIRC the issue was that with patch 3 we can have the situation where we have
>>> CONFIG_VT = y and CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=n and this will crash early during boot as
>>> conswitchp is NULL.

Yes, VT layer initializes very early in the boot process and looks for a 
console. If it can't find any it will crash. I believe that was the 
whole point of having the dummy console.

>>
>> So in practice, CONFIG_VT depends on "there's a console available, even
>> if it's only the dummy one"?
> 
> Yes. Maybe we should simple move dummy_console outside of drivers/video/console/Kconfig
> into something that is always available.
> 

I agree, but where should it go? consoles are kinda tightly tied to 
video/Graphics Support.

>>
>>> This patches goal was to always enable dummy console even without
>>> PCI, but it obviously fails to do so.
>>
This patch should enable the dummy console even without PCI but we won't 
have DRM/Virtio GPU.

>> OTOH, the dummy console really should not depend on anything, as it is
>> only doing dummy things.
>>
>>>
>>> So what about allowing CONFIG_VT on s390 only if we have PCI?
>>>
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/tty/Kconfig b/drivers/tty/Kconfig
>>> index 84810075a6a0..1c7fe09d6f90 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/tty/Kconfig
>>> +++ b/drivers/tty/Kconfig
>>> @@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ if TTY
>>>   
>>>   config VT
>>>          bool "Virtual terminal" if EXPERT
>>> -       depends on !UML
>>> +       depends on !UML && (!S390 || PCI)
>>>          select INPUT
>>>          default y
>>>          ---help---
>>>
>>
>> Would cover your use case, but feels wrong to me... config dependencies
>> aren't fun :/
>>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	tomi.valkeinen@ti.com, b.zolnierkie@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] Kconfig : Remove HAS_IOMEM dependency for Graphics support
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 16:39:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2170dce6-4456-3ab6-d07c-2169d99c4173@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c1daae4-e1f6-5627-9023-f03d986c5639@de.ibm.com>



On 02/21/2018 07:11 AM, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/21/2018 01:07 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> [...]
>>>> But if you need to enable PCI to get IOMEM, I wonder why this patch here
>>>> is needed at all? The Graphics menu / VT dummy console should be
>>>> available in the config if IOMEM is enabled anyway?
>>>
>>> That is a good question. With CONFIG_PCI=y I can select virtio-gpu and dummy-console.
>>> IIRC the issue was that with patch 3 we can have the situation where we have
>>> CONFIG_VT = y and CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=n and this will crash early during boot as
>>> conswitchp is NULL.

Yes, VT layer initializes very early in the boot process and looks for a 
console. If it can't find any it will crash. I believe that was the 
whole point of having the dummy console.

>>
>> So in practice, CONFIG_VT depends on "there's a console available, even
>> if it's only the dummy one"?
> 
> Yes. Maybe we should simple move dummy_console outside of drivers/video/console/Kconfig
> into something that is always available.
> 

I agree, but where should it go? consoles are kinda tightly tied to 
video/Graphics Support.

>>
>>> This patches goal was to always enable dummy console even without
>>> PCI, but it obviously fails to do so.
>>
This patch should enable the dummy console even without PCI but we won't 
have DRM/Virtio GPU.

>> OTOH, the dummy console really should not depend on anything, as it is
>> only doing dummy things.
>>
>>>
>>> So what about allowing CONFIG_VT on s390 only if we have PCI?
>>>
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/tty/Kconfig b/drivers/tty/Kconfig
>>> index 84810075a6a0..1c7fe09d6f90 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/tty/Kconfig
>>> +++ b/drivers/tty/Kconfig
>>> @@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ if TTY
>>>   
>>>   config VT
>>>          bool "Virtual terminal" if EXPERT
>>> -       depends on !UML
>>> +       depends on !UML && (!S390 || PCI)
>>>          select INPUT
>>>          default y
>>>          ---help---
>>>
>>
>> Would cover your use case, but feels wrong to me... config dependencies
>> aren't fun :/
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-21 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-19 15:47 [PATCH v3 0/3] Enable CONFIG_VT support for S390 Farhan Ali
2018-02-19 15:47 ` Farhan Ali
2018-02-19 15:47 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Kconfig : Remove HAS_IOMEM dependency for Graphics support Farhan Ali
2018-02-19 15:47   ` Farhan Ali
2018-02-19 16:25   ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-19 16:25     ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-19 16:38     ` Farhan Ali
2018-02-19 16:38       ` Farhan Ali
2018-02-21 10:05       ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 10:05         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 10:22         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 10:22           ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 10:32           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-02-21 10:32             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-02-21 11:09             ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 11:09               ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 11:14               ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-21 11:14                 ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-21 11:22                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 11:22                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 11:29                   ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-21 11:29                     ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-21 11:49                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 11:49                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 12:07                       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-02-21 12:07                         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-02-21 12:11                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 12:11                           ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 16:39                           ` Farhan Ali [this message]
2018-02-21 16:39                             ` Farhan Ali
2018-02-22  7:34                             ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-22  7:34                               ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 11:23                 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-02-21 11:23                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-02-21  8:44   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21  8:44     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-21 11:50     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2018-02-21 11:50       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2018-02-19 15:47 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] s390/char : Rename EBCDIC keymap variables Farhan Ali
2018-02-19 15:47   ` Farhan Ali
2018-02-19 19:52   ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-19 19:52     ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-19 15:47 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] s390/setup : enable display support for KVM guest Farhan Ali
2018-02-19 15:47   ` Farhan Ali
2018-02-19 19:55   ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-19 19:55     ` Thomas Huth
2018-02-20  9:43 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Enable CONFIG_VT support for S390 Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-20  9:43   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-02-20 13:45   ` Farhan Ali

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