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From: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	matthew.garrett@nebula.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/24] Kernel lockdown
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 11:59:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25acabf2-ac99-3c2b-ee9a-53d71b5c77f2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <149142326734.5101.4596394505987813763.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On 2017-04-05 16:14, David Howells wrote:
>
> These patches provide a facility by which a variety of avenues by which
> userspace can feasibly modify the running kernel image can be locked down.
> These include:
>
>  (*) No unsigned modules and no modules for which can't validate the
>      signature.
>
>  (*) No use of ioperm(), iopl() and no writing to /dev/port.
>
>  (*) No writing to /dev/mem or /dev/kmem.
>
>  (*) No hibernation.
>
>  (*) Restrict PCI BAR access.
>
>  (*) Restrict MSR access.
>
>  (*) No kexec_load().
>
>  (*) Certain ACPI restrictions.
>
>  (*) Restrict debugfs interface to ASUS WMI.
>
> The lock-down can be configured to be triggered by the EFI secure boot
> status, provided the shim isn't insecure.  The lock-down can be lifted by
> typing SysRq+x on a keyboard attached to the system.
This has already been mentioned both in response to previous versions of 
this patch set, and by at least 2 people in response to a specific patch 
in this posting, but for any kind of proper security analysis, you need 
to better clarify your threat model.  'Prevent modification to the 
running kernel image' is a decent start on this, but at least some of 
the patches don't explain very well _how_ what you're disabling could be 
used to modify the running kernel image.  Clarifying how something is a 
threat will help with verifying that you're correctly blocking the threat.

Furthermore, why is the only way to enable this to boot in UEFI Secure 
Boot mode?  Almost all of the hardening done here has general utility in 
hardening regular systems, and as such I'd suggest adding a command line 
option to enable kernel lock-down (which would greatly simplify 
testing), and a kconfig option to enforce it at build-time.

In addition to all that, it would be nice to be able to disable all of 
the following at build time independent of the kernel lock-down state
* The acpi_rsdp kernel parameter (I could easily see many distros 
building kernels with this disabled, it's insanely use-case specific).
* IO port and resource reservation module parameters (this would 
actually be easier than having runtime blacklisting, and I could also 
easily see this being turned on by default by a number of distros).
* TOICSERIAL (this one is more likely than the above two to break systems).

And these would probably be useful as lockable sysctls that would be 
automatically locked disabled when the kernel is locked down:
* ioperm/iopl (these can technically be blocked by seccomp or other 
means, but that is non-trivial to do).
* Most of the other ACPI stuff (some of this is useful for 
troubleshooting, but is not normally used during regular operation).
* PCI BAR access.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: ahferroin7@gmail.com (Austin S. Hemmelgarn)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH 00/24] Kernel lockdown
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 11:59:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25acabf2-ac99-3c2b-ee9a-53d71b5c77f2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <149142326734.5101.4596394505987813763.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On 2017-04-05 16:14, David Howells wrote:
>
> These patches provide a facility by which a variety of avenues by which
> userspace can feasibly modify the running kernel image can be locked down.
> These include:
>
>  (*) No unsigned modules and no modules for which can't validate the
>      signature.
>
>  (*) No use of ioperm(), iopl() and no writing to /dev/port.
>
>  (*) No writing to /dev/mem or /dev/kmem.
>
>  (*) No hibernation.
>
>  (*) Restrict PCI BAR access.
>
>  (*) Restrict MSR access.
>
>  (*) No kexec_load().
>
>  (*) Certain ACPI restrictions.
>
>  (*) Restrict debugfs interface to ASUS WMI.
>
> The lock-down can be configured to be triggered by the EFI secure boot
> status, provided the shim isn't insecure.  The lock-down can be lifted by
> typing SysRq+x on a keyboard attached to the system.
This has already been mentioned both in response to previous versions of 
this patch set, and by at least 2 people in response to a specific patch 
in this posting, but for any kind of proper security analysis, you need 
to better clarify your threat model.  'Prevent modification to the 
running kernel image' is a decent start on this, but at least some of 
the patches don't explain very well _how_ what you're disabling could be 
used to modify the running kernel image.  Clarifying how something is a 
threat will help with verifying that you're correctly blocking the threat.

Furthermore, why is the only way to enable this to boot in UEFI Secure 
Boot mode?  Almost all of the hardening done here has general utility in 
hardening regular systems, and as such I'd suggest adding a command line 
option to enable kernel lock-down (which would greatly simplify 
testing), and a kconfig option to enforce it at build-time.

In addition to all that, it would be nice to be able to disable all of 
the following at build time independent of the kernel lock-down state
* The acpi_rsdp kernel parameter (I could easily see many distros 
building kernels with this disabled, it's insanely use-case specific).
* IO port and resource reservation module parameters (this would 
actually be easier than having runtime blacklisting, and I could also 
easily see this being turned on by default by a number of distros).
* TOICSERIAL (this one is more likely than the above two to break systems).

And these would probably be useful as lockable sysctls that would be 
automatically locked disabled when the kernel is locked down:
* ioperm/iopl (these can technically be blocked by seccomp or other 
means, but that is non-trivial to do).
* Most of the other ACPI stuff (some of this is useful for 
troubleshooting, but is not normally used during regular operation).
* PCI BAR access.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-07 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 226+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-05 20:14 [PATCH 00/24] Kernel lockdown David Howells
2017-04-05 20:14 ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:14 ` [PATCH 01/24] efi: Add EFI_SECURE_BOOT bit David Howells
2017-04-05 20:14   ` David Howells
2017-04-06  8:26   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-04-06  8:26     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-04-06  8:48   ` David Howells
2017-04-06  8:48     ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:14 ` [PATCH 02/24] Add the ability to lock down access to the running kernel image David Howells
2017-04-05 20:14   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:14   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:14 ` [PATCH 03/24] efi: Lock down the kernel if booted in secure boot mode David Howells
2017-04-05 20:14   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15 ` [PATCH 04/24] Enforce module signatures if the kernel is locked down David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15 ` [PATCH 05/24] Restrict /dev/mem and /dev/kmem when " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15 ` [PATCH 06/24] Add a sysrq option to exit secure boot mode David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-14 18:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-14 18:05     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-14 18:05     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-14 18:15     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-04-14 18:15       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-04-14 18:15       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-04-14 23:16     ` David Howells
2017-04-14 23:16       ` David Howells
2017-04-14 23:16       ` David Howells
2017-04-16 20:46     ` Matt Fleming
2017-04-16 20:46       ` Matt Fleming
2017-04-16 20:46       ` Matt Fleming
2017-04-05 20:15 ` [PATCH 07/24] kexec: Disable at runtime if the kernel is locked down David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-07  3:07   ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  3:07     ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  3:07     ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  3:07     ` Dave Young
2017-04-05 20:15 ` [PATCH 08/24] Copy secure_boot flag in boot params across kexec reboot David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15 ` [PATCH 09/24] kexec_file: Disable at runtime if securelevel has been set David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:15   ` David Howells
2017-04-07  3:05   ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  3:05     ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  3:05     ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  3:05     ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  3:49     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  3:49       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  3:49       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  6:19       ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  6:19         ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  6:19         ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  6:19         ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  7:45         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  7:45           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  7:45           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  8:01           ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  8:01             ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  8:01             ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  7:07       ` David Howells
2017-04-07  7:07         ` David Howells
2017-04-07  7:07         ` David Howells
2017-04-07  7:41         ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  7:41           ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  7:41           ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  7:41           ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  8:28           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  8:28             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  8:28             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  8:28             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  8:42             ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  8:42               ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  8:42               ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  8:42               ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  7:09     ` David Howells
2017-04-07  7:09       ` David Howells
2017-04-07  7:09       ` David Howells
2017-04-07  7:46       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  7:46         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  7:46         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07  9:17       ` David Howells
2017-04-07  9:17         ` David Howells
2017-04-07  9:17         ` David Howells
2017-04-07 12:36         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07 12:36           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-07 12:36           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-10 13:19         ` David Howells
2017-04-10 13:19           ` David Howells
2017-04-10 13:19           ` David Howells
2017-05-02 19:01           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-05-02 19:01             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-05-02 19:01             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-05-02 19:01             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-04-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 10/24] hibernate: Disable when the kernel is locked down David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 11/24] uswsusp: " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 23:38   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-05 23:38     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-05 23:38     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-06  6:39     ` Oliver Neukum
2017-04-06  6:39       ` Oliver Neukum
2017-04-06  8:41     ` David Howells
2017-04-06  8:41       ` David Howells
2017-04-06 20:09       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-06 20:09         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-06 20:09         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-06 20:12         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-06 20:12           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-06 20:25           ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-06 20:25             ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-08  3:28             ` poma
2017-04-08  3:28               ` poma
2017-04-12 13:44               ` joeyli
2017-04-12 13:44                 ` joeyli
2017-04-06  6:55   ` David Howells
2017-04-06  6:55     ` David Howells
2017-04-06 20:07     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-06 20:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 12/24] PCI: Lock down BAR access " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16   ` David Howells
2017-04-18 17:50   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-04-18 17:50     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-04-18 17:50     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-04-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 13/24] x86: Lock down IO port " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16   ` David Howells
2017-04-14 18:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-14 18:28     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-14 18:28     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 14/24] x86: Restrict MSR " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16   ` David Howells
2017-04-14 18:30   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-14 18:30     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 15/24] asus-wmi: Restrict debugfs interface " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16   ` David Howells
2017-04-07 10:25   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-07 10:25     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-07 12:50   ` David Howells
2017-04-07 12:50     ` David Howells
2017-04-09 11:10     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-09 11:10       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-10 13:16     ` David Howells
2017-04-10 13:16       ` David Howells
2017-04-18  6:06       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-18  6:06         ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-18  6:06         ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-18 14:34         ` Ben Hutchings
2017-04-18 14:34           ` Ben Hutchings
2017-04-18 14:55         ` David Howells
2017-04-18 14:55           ` David Howells
2017-04-18 14:55           ` David Howells
2017-04-18 15:19           ` Ben Hutchings
2017-04-18 15:19             ` Ben Hutchings
2017-04-18 15:34           ` David Howells
2017-04-18 15:34             ` David Howells
2017-04-18 15:34             ` David Howells
2017-04-18 15:30         ` David Howells
2017-04-18 15:30           ` David Howells
2017-04-18 17:39           ` Ben Hutchings
2017-04-18 17:39             ` Ben Hutchings
2017-04-18 17:39             ` Ben Hutchings
2017-04-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 16/24] ACPI: Limit access to custom_method " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16 ` [PATCH 17/24] acpi: Ignore acpi_rsdp kernel param when the kernel has been " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:16   ` David Howells
2017-04-06 19:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-06 19:43     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-07  6:31     ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  6:31       ` Dave Young
     [not found]     ` <20170407063107.GA10451-0VdLhd/A9Pl+NNSt+8eSiB/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-07  7:05       ` David Howells
2017-04-07  7:05         ` David Howells
2017-04-07  7:05         ` David Howells
2017-04-07  7:39         ` Dave Young
2017-04-07  7:39           ` Dave Young
2017-04-05 20:17 ` [PATCH 18/24] acpi: Disable ACPI table override if the kernel is " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17 ` [PATCH 19/24] acpi: Disable APEI error injection " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17 ` [PATCH 20/24] bpf: Restrict kernel image access functions when " David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17   ` David Howells
2017-04-06 12:29   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-06 12:29     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-06 12:40     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-04-06 12:40       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-04-12 14:57   ` joeyli
2017-04-12 14:57     ` joeyli
2017-04-12 14:57     ` joeyli
2017-04-13  8:46   ` David Howells
2017-04-13  8:46     ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17 ` [PATCH 21/24] scsi: Lock down the eata driver David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17 ` [PATCH 22/24] Prohibit PCMCIA CIS storage when the kernel is locked down David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17 ` [PATCH 23/24] Lock down TIOCSSERIAL David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:17   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:18 ` [PATCH 24/24] Lock down module params that specify hardware parameters (eg. ioport) David Howells
2017-04-05 20:18   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 20:18   ` David Howells
2017-04-07 15:59 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn [this message]
2017-04-07 15:59   ` [PATCH 00/24] Kernel lockdown Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-04-07 16:29   ` Justin Forbes
2017-04-07 16:29     ` Justin Forbes
2017-04-07 16:29     ` Justin Forbes
2017-04-10 23:15 ` Why kernel lockdown? David Howells
2017-04-10 23:15   ` David Howells
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-04-05 17:09 [PATCH 00/24] Kernel lockdown David Howells
2017-04-05 17:09 ` David Howells
2017-04-05 19:57 ` David Howells
2017-04-05 19:57   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 19:57   ` David Howells
2017-04-06  8:25 ` James Morris
2017-04-06  8:25   ` James Morris
2017-04-06  8:25   ` James Morris
2017-04-06  8:37 ` David Howells
2017-04-06  8:37   ` David Howells
2017-04-06  8:37   ` David Howells
2017-04-05 17:07 David Howells
2017-04-05 17:07 ` David Howells
2017-04-07 16:32 ` Justin Forbes
2017-04-07 16:32   ` Justin Forbes

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