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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, trondmy@primarydata.com,
	mszeredi@redhat.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	jlayton@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:13:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3612.1495555998@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lgpoww67.fsf@xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:

> Let me suggest a concrete alternative:
> 
> - At the time of mount observer the mounters user namespace.

Looking at sget(), I don't think a mounter can see a superblock outside of
their namespace.  There is something icky in there whereby all automounts are
currently transferred into the init_user_ns though (something to fix in my
mount-context series) :-/

> - Find the mounters pid namespace.
> - If the mounters pid namespace is owned by the mounters user namespace
>   walk up the pid namespace tree to the first pid namespace owned by
>   that user namespace.
> - If the mounters pid namespace is not owned by the mounters user
>   namespace fail the mount it is going to need to make upcalls as
>   will not be possible.

Take the following scenario:

 (1) Create a process with a new network namespace.  Set up the network to
     route out of ethernet port 1.

 (2) Create a child process with new network and user namespaces.  Set up the
     network to route out of ethernet port 2.

 (3) Mount an NFS volume in the process created in (2).

The mount in (3) will fail unconditionally.

> - Hold a reference to the pid namespace that was found.

Take the following scenario:

 (1) Create a process with new network and pid namespaces.  Set up the network
     to route out of ethernet port 1.

 (2) Create a child process with new network and pid namespaces.  Set up the
     network to route out of ethernet port 2.

 (3) Mount an NFS volume in the process created in (2).

 (4) Create another child process with new network and pid namespaces.  Set up
     the network to route out of ethernet port 3.

 (5) In the process created in (4), access the NFS volume created in (3).

The user namespace is the same all the way through.

Now you're holding a ref to the pid namespace created in (1) - but that is of
no use to you.  The upcall must take place in the network namespace that
routes out through port 2.

David

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, trondmy@primarydata.com,
	mszeredi@redhat.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	jlayton@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:13:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3612.1495555998@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lgpoww67.fsf@xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:

> Let me suggest a concrete alternative:
> 
> - At the time of mount observer the mounters user namespace.

Looking at sget(), I don't think a mounter can see a superblock outside of
their namespace.  There is something icky in there whereby all automounts are
currently transferred into the init_user_ns though (something to fix in my
mount-context series) :-/

> - Find the mounters pid namespace.
> - If the mounters pid namespace is owned by the mounters user namespace
>   walk up the pid namespace tree to the first pid namespace owned by
>   that user namespace.
> - If the mounters pid namespace is not owned by the mounters user
>   namespace fail the mount it is going to need to make upcalls as
>   will not be possible.

Take the following scenario:

 (1) Create a process with a new network namespace.  Set up the network to
     route out of ethernet port 1.

 (2) Create a child process with new network and user namespaces.  Set up the
     network to route out of ethernet port 2.

 (3) Mount an NFS volume in the process created in (2).

The mount in (3) will fail unconditionally.

> - Hold a reference to the pid namespace that was found.

Take the following scenario:

 (1) Create a process with new network and pid namespaces.  Set up the network
     to route out of ethernet port 1.

 (2) Create a child process with new network and pid namespaces.  Set up the
     network to route out of ethernet port 2.

 (3) Mount an NFS volume in the process created in (2).

 (4) Create another child process with new network and pid namespaces.  Set up
     the network to route out of ethernet port 3.

 (5) In the process created in (4), access the NFS volume created in (3).

The user namespace is the same all the way through.

Now you're holding a ref to the pid namespace created in (1) - but that is of
no use to you.  The upcall must take place in the network namespace that
routes out through port 2.

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-23 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-22 16:22 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/9] containers: Rename linux/container.h to linux/container_dev.h David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/9] Implement containers as kernel objects David Howells
2017-08-14  5:47   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-08-14  5:47     ` Richard Guy Briggs
     [not found]     ` <20170814054711.GB29957-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-16 22:21       ` Paul Moore
2017-08-16 22:21     ` Paul Moore
2017-08-16 22:21       ` Paul Moore
2017-08-16 22:21       ` Paul Moore
     [not found]       ` <CAHC9VhRgPRa7KeMt8G700aeFvqVYc0gMx__82K31TYY6oQQqTw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-18  8:03         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-08-18  8:03       ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-08-18  8:03         ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-06 14:03         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-09-06 14:03           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]           ` <20170906140341.GA8729-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-14  5:47             ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-14  5:47           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-14  5:47             ` Richard Guy Briggs
     [not found]         ` <20170818080300.GQ7187-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-06 14:03           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-09-08 20:02           ` Paul Moore
2017-09-08 20:02         ` Paul Moore
     [not found]   ` <149547016213.10599.1969443294414531853.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14  5:47     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 3/9] Provide /proc/containers David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22   ` David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 4/9] Allow processes to be forked and upcalled into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22   ` David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/9] Open a socket inside " David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/9] Allow fs syscall dfd arguments to take a container fd David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] Make fsopen() able to initiate mounting into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 8/9] Honour CONTAINER_NEW_EMPTY_FS_NS David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23   ` David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] Sample program for driving container objects David Howells
     [not found] ` <149547014649.10599.12025037906646164347.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 16:53   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects James Bottomley
2017-05-22 16:53     ` James Bottomley
2017-05-22 17:14     ` Aleksa Sarai
2017-05-22 17:14       ` Aleksa Sarai
2017-05-22 17:27     ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 17:27       ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 18:34     ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-22 18:34       ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]       ` <1495478092.2816.17.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 19:21         ` James Bottomley
2017-05-22 19:21       ` James Bottomley
2017-05-22 19:21         ` James Bottomley
2017-05-22 22:14         ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]         ` <1495480860.9050.18.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 22:14           ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 10:35           ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 10:35         ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 10:35           ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23  9:38     ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23  9:38       ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23  9:38       ` Ian Kent
     [not found]     ` <1495472039.2757.19.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 17:14       ` Aleksa Sarai
2017-05-22 17:27       ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 18:34       ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23  9:38       ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 13:52       ` David Howells
     [not found]     ` <f167feeb-e653-12e3-eec8-24162f7f7c07-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 14:53       ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:53     ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 14:56         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <2446.1495551216-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 14:56         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:14       ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:14         ` David Howells
     [not found]         ` <2961.1495552481-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:17           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:17             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87bmqjmwl5.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:44               ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 15:44             ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 15:44               ` James Bottomley
     [not found]             ` <1495554267.27369.9.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 16:36               ` David Howells
2017-05-23 16:36                 ` David Howells
     [not found]                 ` <3860.1495557363-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  8:26                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-24  8:26                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-24  9:16                     ` Ian Kent
2017-05-24  9:16                       ` Ian Kent
     [not found]                     ` <87k256ek3e.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  9:16                       ` Ian Kent
     [not found]       ` <87zie3mxkc.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:14         ` David Howells
2017-05-22 17:11 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 17:11   ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-22 19:04   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-22 22:22   ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-22 22:22     ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 12:54     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 12:54       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 14:27       ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 14:27         ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 14:30       ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-23 14:30         ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-23 14:54         ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 14:54           ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:31           ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 15:31             ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 15:35             ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:35               ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:30         ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:23     ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-23 14:23       ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-27 17:45   ` Trond Myklebust
2017-05-27 17:45     ` Trond Myklebust
2017-05-27 19:10     ` James Bottomley
2017-05-27 19:10       ` James Bottomley
2017-05-30  1:03     ` Ian Kent
2017-05-30  1:03       ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 10:09 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 10:09   ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 13:52 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 13:52   ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:02   ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 15:02     ` James Bottomley
     [not found]   ` <32556.1495547529-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:02     ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 15:23     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:23   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:12 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:12   ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:33   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 16:13 ` David Howells [this message]
2017-05-23 16:13   ` David Howells

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