From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> Cc: Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>, "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>, "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] xen: Add xen_machine_fv Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:13:58 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <4C6947A6.70908@redhat.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1008161454150.2545@kaball-desktop> Am 16.08.2010 16:04, schrieb Stefano Stabellini: > On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Kevin Wolf wrote: >> Am 12.08.2010 16:09, schrieb stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com: >>> From: Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com> >>> >>> Add the Xen FV (Fully Virtualized) machine to Qemu; >>> this is groundwork to add Xen device model support in Qemu. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> >> >> Why does this need its own machine type? Shouldn't an HVM machine really >> look like a PC? And indeed most of this code looks like a (slightly >> outdated) copy of pc_piix.c with !pci_enabled code paths removed. > > The main reason is that we need some xen specific initializations, as you can > see from xen_init_fv. Right, there are some more Xen specific things added later. However, the main part of it is duplicated from pc_piix.c. I'm sure that with some refactoring we could call these functions instead of copying and modifying them. The problem with the latter is that they will inevitably diverge even for changes that make sense for both. I'm not even sure that the machine is the right place to do these Xen specific initializations (expect for the Xen platform PCI device). As far as I understand, the QEMUMachine is considered guest state whereas most of these initializations concern host state. > But considering that we have been asked to remove target-xen and that > will cause a major refactoring of this series, xen_machine_fv could > change significantly in the next iterations anyway... Basically, the request to remove target-xen and my comment both aim in the same direction, namely making Xen less special and integrate it better in existing structures. Kevin
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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> Cc: Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>, "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>, "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/15] xen: Add xen_machine_fv Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:13:58 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <4C6947A6.70908@redhat.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1008161454150.2545@kaball-desktop> Am 16.08.2010 16:04, schrieb Stefano Stabellini: > On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Kevin Wolf wrote: >> Am 12.08.2010 16:09, schrieb stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com: >>> From: Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com> >>> >>> Add the Xen FV (Fully Virtualized) machine to Qemu; >>> this is groundwork to add Xen device model support in Qemu. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com> >>> Signed-off-by: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> >> >> Why does this need its own machine type? Shouldn't an HVM machine really >> look like a PC? And indeed most of this code looks like a (slightly >> outdated) copy of pc_piix.c with !pci_enabled code paths removed. > > The main reason is that we need some xen specific initializations, as you can > see from xen_init_fv. Right, there are some more Xen specific things added later. However, the main part of it is duplicated from pc_piix.c. I'm sure that with some refactoring we could call these functions instead of copying and modifying them. The problem with the latter is that they will inevitably diverge even for changes that make sense for both. I'm not even sure that the machine is the right place to do these Xen specific initializations (expect for the Xen platform PCI device). As far as I understand, the QEMUMachine is considered guest state whereas most of these initializations concern host state. > But considering that we have been asked to remove target-xen and that > will cause a major refactoring of this series, xen_machine_fv could > change significantly in the next iterations anyway... Basically, the request to remove target-xen and my comment both aim in the same direction, namely making Xen less special and integrate it better in existing structures. Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-16 14:14 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2010-08-12 14:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] RFC xen device model support Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-12 14:08 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] xen: Update libxc calls stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini 2010-08-12 14:19 ` Paolo Bonzini 2010-08-12 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-12 14:28 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-12 14:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-12 14:29 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-18 9:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann 2010-08-18 11:47 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-18 11:47 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] xen: Add xen_machine_fv stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-16 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf 2010-08-16 13:42 ` Kevin Wolf 2010-08-16 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-16 14:13 ` Kevin Wolf [this message] 2010-08-16 14:13 ` Kevin Wolf 2010-08-16 14:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-16 14:38 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-16 14:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf 2010-08-16 14:51 ` Kevin Wolf 2010-08-16 15:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-16 15:00 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-16 15:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-16 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] xen: Add a new target to qemu: target-xen stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl 2010-08-13 12:47 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Jackson 2010-08-13 12:47 ` Ian Jackson 2010-08-13 17:35 ` [Xen-devel] " Blue Swirl 2010-08-13 17:35 ` Blue Swirl 2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-13 17:46 ` Blue Swirl 2010-08-13 18:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 18:50 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] xen: xen_machine_fv, initialize xenstore stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] xen: add a 8259 Interrupt Controller stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] xen: Add the Xen platform pci device stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 18:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl 2010-08-13 13:09 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] xen: handle xenstore events stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] xen: Read and write the state of the VM in xenstore stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-13 18:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 18:53 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-15 14:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini 2010-08-15 14:12 ` Paolo Bonzini 2010-08-16 11:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-16 11:15 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-16 12:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini 2010-08-16 12:13 ` Paolo Bonzini 2010-08-16 12:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-16 12:59 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] xen: Initialize event channels and io rings stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 18:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl 2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-13 18:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 18:54 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] xen: Introduce the Xen mapcache stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-13 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 18:55 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] piix3: introduce register_set_irq and register_map_irq stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 18:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl 2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] piix_pci: introduce a write_config notifier stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:09 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 18:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl 2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-09-05 7:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2010-09-05 7:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2010-08-12 14:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] vl.c: Introduce getter for shutdown_requested and reset_requested stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:10 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] xen: destroy the VM when shutdown is requested stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:10 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-13 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 18:56 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-12 14:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] xen: Add a Xen specific ACPI Implementation to target-xen stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 14:10 ` stefano.stabellini 2010-08-12 18:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl 2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-13 13:10 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-13 18:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 18:57 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 19:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-13 19:37 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-13 20:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 20:51 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-16 11:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-16 11:10 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-13 19:09 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/15] RFC xen device model support Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 19:09 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 19:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-13 19:35 ` Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-13 20:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori 2010-08-13 20:48 ` Anthony Liguori 2010-08-23 9:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] v2: " Stefano Stabellini 2010-08-23 9:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] xen: Add xen_machine_fv stefano.stabellini
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