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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Ori Mamluk <omamluk@zerto.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:25:53 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F315091.40806@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QVDU7qxayhTWDMFLwgdr+bFn03_830sDUPmvMVDf8iPsA@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/07/2012 09:20 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  wrote:
>> On 02/07/2012 07:50 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Kevin Wolf<kwolf@redhat.com>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 07.02.2012 11:29, schrieb Ori Mamluk:
>>>>>
>>>>> Repagent is a new module that allows an external replication system to
>>>>> replicate a volume of a Qemu VM.
>>>
>>>
>>> I recently joked with Kevin that QEMU is on its way to reimplementing
>>> the Linux block and device-mapper layers.  Now we have drbd, thanks!
>>> :P
>>
>>
>> I don't think it's a joke.  Do we really want to get into this space?  Why
>> not just use drbd?
>>
>> If it's because we want to also work with image formats, perhaps we should
>> export our image format code as a shared library and let drbd link against
>> it.
>
> When the guest disk image is on an LVM volume the picture looks like this:
>
> Guest ->  QEMU ->  drbd ->  LVM volume
>
> When an image file is in use we need a way for Linux to access it:
>
> Guest ->  QEMU ->  drbd ->  local NBD server
>
> The local NBD server runs the qcow2, qed, etc code.
>
> Both scenarios are possible today without modifications to QEMU code.
>
> For reference, here is the drbd website http://www.drbd.org/, it's
> described as "network based raid-1".
>
> Looking seriously at drbd is worthwhile because it already implements
> the advanced features that this prototype patch omits.  Take a look at
> the documentation at http://www.drbd.org/docs/working/.  Checksums,
> rate of synchronization, congestion policies, I/O error handling
> policies, and so on are all supported already.
>
> I suspect using drbd would require more management stack integration
> rather than QEMU patches.  For example, libvirt would need to launch
> NBD servers and drbd.

I don't have a problem with a libqemu that presented an easy to use interface 
for libvirt to consume....

But NIH justified with the fact that we can provide a single management 
interface isn't a good justification IMHO.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> Stefan
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-07 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-07 10:29 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 12:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 12:25   ` Dor Laor
2012-02-07 12:30     ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 12:40       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 14:06         ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 14:40           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 14:48             ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 15:47               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08  6:10                 ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08  8:49                   ` Dor Laor
2012-02-08 11:59                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08  8:55                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-08  9:47                     ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 10:04                       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-08 13:28                         ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replication agent design (was [RFC PATCH] replication agent module) Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 14:59                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 14:59                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-19 13:40                             ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-20 14:32                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21  9:03                                 ` [Qemu-devel] BlockDriverState stack and BlockListeners (was: [RFC] Replication agent design) Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21  9:15                                   ` [Qemu-devel] BlockDriverState stack and BlockListeners Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21  9:49                                     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 10:09                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 10:51                                         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 11:36                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 12:22                                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-21 12:57                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 15:49                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 13:10                                             ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 13:21                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 15:56                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 16:04                                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 16:19                                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 16:39                                                     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 17:16                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-21 10:20                                       ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-29  8:38                                   ` Ori Mamluk
2012-03-03 11:46                                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-04  5:14                                       ` Ori Mamluk
2012-03-04  8:56                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-05 12:04                                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 11:02                   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 13:00                     ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replication agent requirements (was [RFC PATCH] replication agent module) Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 13:30                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-08 12:03                   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 12:46                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 14:39                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 14:55                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 15:07                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 14:53             ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-07 15:00             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 13:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-07 13:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 13:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 14:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 12:17       ` Orit Wasserman
2012-02-07 14:18     ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 14:59     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 15:20       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 16:25         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-02-21 16:01       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 17:31         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 14:45   ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 12:29     ` Orit Wasserman
2012-02-08 11:45   ` Luiz Capitulino

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