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From: Ori Mamluk <omamluk@zerto.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: "תומר בן אור" <tomer@zertodata.com>, "עודד קדם" <oded@zerto.com>,
	"Jeff Cody" <jcody@redhat.com>,
	dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Zhi Yong Wu" <zwu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	"Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Yair Kuszpet" <yairk@zerto.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] BlockDriverState stack and BlockListeners
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:20:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F437001.4000707@zerto.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F4368BF.4040707@redhat.com>

On 21/02/2012 11:49, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 21.02.2012 10:15, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>>> So maybe we just need to extend the current BlockDriverState stack to
>>> distinguish "normal" and "always on top" BlockDrivers, where the latter
>>> would roughly correspond to BlockListeners?
>> I would prefer having separate objects.  Even if you do not count fields
>> related to throttling or copy-on-read or other tasks in the list above,
>> there are many fields in BDS that do not really apply to BlockListeners.
>>   Backing files, device ops, encryption, even size.  Having extra methods
>> is not a big problem, but unwanted data items smell...
> Most other block drivers use only little of them. We can try to clean up
> some of them (and making the separation described above would probably
> help with it), but BlockListeners aren't really different here from
> existing drivers.
My impression as an outside observer was similar - it appears as though 
the block driver object contains stuff that belongs to the specific 
driver (e.g. bitmap).

An additional capability that I need in the replication filter is for 
the driver to initiate a new IO. It means that if we have a stack of 
drivers guest->bdrv1->bdrv2->bdrv3->image, then bdrv2 should be able to 
invoke a read - which will be processed only by deeper parts of the 
stack - i.e. bdrv3.
Makes sense?

For question of upper/lower drivers, I tend to think that there are two 
kinds - those who need the original guest IO transactions and those who 
transform them. Maybe two separate drivers stack (upper and lower) are 
enough to implement this difference.
> Kevin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-21 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-07 10:29 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 12:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 12:25   ` Dor Laor
2012-02-07 12:30     ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 12:40       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 14:06         ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 14:40           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 14:48             ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 15:47               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08  6:10                 ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08  8:49                   ` Dor Laor
2012-02-08 11:59                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08  8:55                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-08  9:47                     ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 10:04                       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-08 13:28                         ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replication agent design (was [RFC PATCH] replication agent module) Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 14:59                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 14:59                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-19 13:40                             ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-20 14:32                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21  9:03                                 ` [Qemu-devel] BlockDriverState stack and BlockListeners (was: [RFC] Replication agent design) Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21  9:15                                   ` [Qemu-devel] BlockDriverState stack and BlockListeners Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21  9:49                                     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 10:09                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 10:51                                         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 11:36                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 12:22                                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-21 12:57                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 15:49                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 13:10                                             ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 13:21                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 15:56                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 16:04                                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 16:19                                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 16:39                                                     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 17:16                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-21 10:20                                       ` Ori Mamluk [this message]
2012-02-29  8:38                                   ` Ori Mamluk
2012-03-03 11:46                                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-04  5:14                                       ` Ori Mamluk
2012-03-04  8:56                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-05 12:04                                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 11:02                   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 13:00                     ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replication agent requirements (was [RFC PATCH] replication agent module) Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 13:30                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-08 12:03                   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 12:46                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 14:39                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 14:55                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 15:07                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 14:53             ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-07 15:00             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 13:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-07 13:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 13:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 14:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 12:17       ` Orit Wasserman
2012-02-07 14:18     ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 14:59     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 15:20       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 16:25         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-21 16:01       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 17:31         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 14:45   ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 12:29     ` Orit Wasserman
2012-02-08 11:45   ` Luiz Capitulino

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