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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"תומר בן אור" <tomer@zertodata.com>, "עודד קדם" <oded@zerto.com>,
	dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Ori Mamluk" <omamluk@zerto.com>,
	"Yair Kuszpet" <yairk@zerto.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:46:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F326E99.7030904@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QWe_XOci6pwpDQix9mqosAnMRkN7pE867=dqSRQj02-fA@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/08/2012 01:03 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> If you intend to run an unmodified drbd server on the rephub, then it
> may not be possible to get point-in-time backups.  (Although this
> probably depends since things like btrfs or zfs may allow you to get
> back to arbitrary transactions or timestamps.)

I'm not sure what's the overhead, but btrfs copy-on-write (reflinks) may 
help.

> But you could consider drbd as a network protocol and implement your
> own server which speaks the protocol.  Then you can add any
> functionality you like, just like the case with the proprietary rephub
> server you mentioned in your patch.
>
> So the only difference is that instead of using a new custom protocol
> the rephub would need to speak the drbd protocol.

So you're suggesting DRBD-over-NBD on the client, and for the 
replication hub a custom server speaking the DRBD protocol?  I didn't 
find any documentation for DRBD and the code is only in the kernel, so 
this sounds like a lot of work.

What about taking the existing Ceph/RBD driver in QEMU and changing it 
to support arbitrary image formats rather than just raw?  That sounds 
much much easier.  The main advantage is that Ceph has a user-space 
library for use in the replication hub.  It also supports snapshots.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-08 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-07 10:29 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 12:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 12:25   ` Dor Laor
2012-02-07 12:30     ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 12:40       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 14:06         ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 14:40           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 14:48             ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 15:47               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08  6:10                 ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08  8:49                   ` Dor Laor
2012-02-08 11:59                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08  8:55                   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-08  9:47                     ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 10:04                       ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-08 13:28                         ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replication agent design (was [RFC PATCH] replication agent module) Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 14:59                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 14:59                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-19 13:40                             ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-20 14:32                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21  9:03                                 ` [Qemu-devel] BlockDriverState stack and BlockListeners (was: [RFC] Replication agent design) Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21  9:15                                   ` [Qemu-devel] BlockDriverState stack and BlockListeners Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21  9:49                                     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 10:09                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 10:51                                         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 11:36                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 12:22                                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-21 12:57                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 15:49                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 13:10                                             ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 13:21                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-21 15:56                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 16:04                                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 16:19                                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 16:39                                                     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-21 17:16                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-21 10:20                                       ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-29  8:38                                   ` Ori Mamluk
2012-03-03 11:46                                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-03-04  5:14                                       ` Ori Mamluk
2012-03-04  8:56                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-03-05 12:04                                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 11:02                   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 13:00                     ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replication agent requirements (was [RFC PATCH] replication agent module) Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 13:30                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-08 12:03                   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] replication agent module Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 12:46                     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-02-08 14:39                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-08 14:55                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 15:07                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 14:53             ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-07 15:00             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 13:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-07 13:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 13:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 14:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 12:17       ` Orit Wasserman
2012-02-07 14:18     ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-07 14:59     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-07 15:20       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 16:25         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-21 16:01       ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-21 17:31         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-07 14:45   ` Ori Mamluk
2012-02-08 12:29     ` Orit Wasserman
2012-02-08 11:45   ` Luiz Capitulino

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