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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: dlaor@redhat.com
Cc: Ronen Hod <rhod@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] virtio-blk: Add bio-based IO path for virtio-blk
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:10:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FF44EE0.9040200@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FF3017C.4020605@redhat.com>

Il 03/07/2012 16:28, Dor Laor ha scritto:
>>>> Users using a spinning disk still get IO scheduling in the host though.
>>>> What benefit is there in doing it in the guest as well?
>>>
>>> The io scheduler waits for requests to merge and thus batch IOs
>>> together. It's not important w.r.t spinning disks since the host can
>>> do it but it causes much less vmexits which is the key issue for VMs.
>>
>> Does it make sense to use the guest's I/O scheduler at all?
> 
> That's the reason we have a noop io scheduler.

But is performance really better with noop?  We had to revert usage of
QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT in the guests because it caused performance
degradation (commit f8b12e513b953aebf30f8ff7d2de9be7e024dbbe).

The bio-based path is really QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT++, so it should really be
a special case for people who know what they're doing.  (Better would be
to improve QEMU, there's definitely room for 20% improvement...).

Paolo

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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: dlaor@redhat.com
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Ronen Hod <rhod@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] virtio-blk: Add bio-based IO path for virtio-blk
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 16:10:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FF44EE0.9040200@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FF3017C.4020605@redhat.com>

Il 03/07/2012 16:28, Dor Laor ha scritto:
>>>> Users using a spinning disk still get IO scheduling in the host though.
>>>> What benefit is there in doing it in the guest as well?
>>>
>>> The io scheduler waits for requests to merge and thus batch IOs
>>> together. It's not important w.r.t spinning disks since the host can
>>> do it but it causes much less vmexits which is the key issue for VMs.
>>
>> Does it make sense to use the guest's I/O scheduler at all?
> 
> That's the reason we have a noop io scheduler.

But is performance really better with noop?  We had to revert usage of
QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT in the guests because it caused performance
degradation (commit f8b12e513b953aebf30f8ff7d2de9be7e024dbbe).

The bio-based path is really QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT++, so it should really be
a special case for people who know what they're doing.  (Better would be
to improve QEMU, there's definitely room for 20% improvement...).

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-04 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-18  6:53 [PATCH v2 0/3] Improve virtio-blk performance Asias He
2012-06-18  6:53 ` Asias He
2012-06-18  6:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] block: Introduce __blk_segment_map_sg() helper Asias He
2012-06-18  6:53   ` Asias He
2012-06-18 21:31   ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-18 21:31     ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-19  2:02     ` Asias He
2012-06-19  2:02       ` Asias He
2012-06-19 18:00       ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-19 18:00         ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] block: Add blk_bio_map_sg() helper Asias He
2012-06-18  6:53   ` Asias He
2012-06-18  6:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] virtio-blk: Add bio-based IO path for virtio-blk Asias He
2012-06-18  6:53   ` Asias He
2012-06-18  7:46   ` Rusty Russell
2012-06-18  7:46     ` Rusty Russell
2012-06-18  8:03     ` Asias He
2012-06-18  8:03       ` Asias He
2012-06-18 10:05       ` Rusty Russell
2012-06-18 10:05         ` Rusty Russell
2012-06-18 11:14         ` Dor Laor
2012-06-18 11:14           ` Dor Laor
2012-06-18 11:39           ` Sasha Levin
2012-06-18 11:39             ` Sasha Levin
2012-06-19  2:51             ` Asias He
2012-06-19  2:51               ` Asias He
2012-06-19  6:21               ` Dor Laor
2012-06-19  6:21                 ` Dor Laor
2012-06-20  4:46                 ` Asias He
2012-06-20  4:46                   ` Asias He
2012-06-21  9:49                   ` Dor Laor
2012-06-21  9:49                     ` Dor Laor
2012-07-01 23:54               ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-02  2:45                 ` Asias He
2012-07-02  2:45                   ` Asias He
2012-07-02  6:41                   ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-02  6:41                     ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-03  0:39                     ` Asias He
2012-07-03  0:39                       ` Asias He
2012-07-04  2:40                       ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-04  2:40                         ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-06  1:03                         ` Asias He
2012-07-06  1:03                           ` Asias He
2012-07-03 13:31                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-03 13:31                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-03 14:02                       ` Asias He
2012-07-03 14:02                         ` Asias He
2012-07-01 23:54               ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-03 14:22           ` Ronen Hod
2012-07-03 14:22             ` Ronen Hod
2012-07-03 14:28             ` Dor Laor
2012-07-03 14:28               ` Dor Laor
2012-07-04 14:10               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-07-04 14:10                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-18 21:28         ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-18 21:28           ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-19  2:39         ` Asias He
2012-06-19  2:39           ` Asias He
2012-06-18 10:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 10:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-19  2:21         ` Asias He
2012-06-19  2:21           ` Asias He
2012-06-18  9:37   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-18  9:37     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-18 10:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 10:21     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 10:45     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-18 10:45       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-19  2:30     ` Asias He
2012-06-19  2:30       ` Asias He
2012-06-18  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Improve virtio-blk performance Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-18  9:14   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-18  9:39   ` Asias He
2012-06-18  9:39     ` Asias He
2012-06-18 10:58     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-18 10:58       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-19  4:24       ` Asias He
2012-06-19  4:24         ` Asias He
2012-06-19 10:14         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-06-19 10:14           ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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