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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Alexey Kardashevskiy" <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@web.de>, "Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] kvm: i386: Add classic PCI device assignment
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 13:24:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5047A6E0.90902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAu8pHuy0g7=HOb-w8RY=aturOqG1kR7++VnH81zK82bS1kbCg@mail.gmail.com>

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On 09/05/2012 01:04 PM, Blue Swirl wrote:
>> I don't mind GPLv2+, if people want to share code from QEMU in GPLv3
>> projects, GPLv2+ enables that.
> 
> The advantage of 100% GPLv2+ (or other GPLv3 compatible) would be that
> QEMU could share code from GPLv3 projects, specifically latest
> binutils. Reinventing a disassembler for ever growing x86 assembly is
> no fun.

Not quite right.

If qemu is 100% GPLv2+ and binutils is GPLv3+, then binutils can borrow
code from qemu and the result is that binutils is still GPLv3+; but in
the converse direction, if qemu borrows code from binutils then qemu is
no longer 100% GPLv2+ but becomes GPLv3+ by tainting.

That is, requesting GPLv2+ allows qemu code to be reused elsewhere, but
does not help qemu import external code that is not already GPLv2+.

> 
>>
>> But if new code is coming in and happens to be under GPLv2, that just
>> means that the contribution cannot be used outside of QEMU in a GPLv3
>> project.  That's fine and that's a decision for the submitter to make.
> 
> This policy means that we are locked in with GPLv2.

I'm afraid we're already locked at GPLv2 (and not GPLv2+), for good or
for bad.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake@redhat.com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Alexey Kardashevskiy" <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@web.de>, "Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] kvm: i386: Add classic PCI device assignment
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 13:24:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5047A6E0.90902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAu8pHuy0g7=HOb-w8RY=aturOqG1kR7++VnH81zK82bS1kbCg@mail.gmail.com>

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On 09/05/2012 01:04 PM, Blue Swirl wrote:
>> I don't mind GPLv2+, if people want to share code from QEMU in GPLv3
>> projects, GPLv2+ enables that.
> 
> The advantage of 100% GPLv2+ (or other GPLv3 compatible) would be that
> QEMU could share code from GPLv3 projects, specifically latest
> binutils. Reinventing a disassembler for ever growing x86 assembly is
> no fun.

Not quite right.

If qemu is 100% GPLv2+ and binutils is GPLv3+, then binutils can borrow
code from qemu and the result is that binutils is still GPLv3+; but in
the converse direction, if qemu borrows code from binutils then qemu is
no longer 100% GPLv2+ but becomes GPLv3+ by tainting.

That is, requesting GPLv2+ allows qemu code to be reused elsewhere, but
does not help qemu import external code that is not already GPLv2+.

> 
>>
>> But if new code is coming in and happens to be under GPLv2, that just
>> means that the contribution cannot be used outside of QEMU in a GPLv3
>> project.  That's fine and that's a decision for the submitter to make.
> 
> This policy means that we are locked in with GPLv2.

I'm afraid we're already locked at GPLv2 (and not GPLv2+), for good or
for bad.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake@redhat.com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-05 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-27  6:28 [PATCH 0/4] uq/master: Add classic PCI device assignment Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  6:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  6:28 ` [PATCH 1/4] kvm: Introduce kvm_irqchip_update_msi_route Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  6:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  6:28 ` [PATCH 2/4] kvm: Introduce kvm_has_intx_set_mask Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  6:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  6:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] kvm: i386: Add services required for PCI device assignment Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  6:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  6:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] kvm: i386: Add classic " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  6:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 12:07   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-27 12:07     ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-27 12:15     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 12:15       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-28 21:26       ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-28 21:26         ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2012-08-29  8:47         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29  8:47           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29  8:49           ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-29  8:49             ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-29  8:50             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29  8:50               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-03 15:59             ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03 15:59               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-04  3:31               ` Alex Williamson
2012-09-04  3:31                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2012-08-28 12:57     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-28 12:57       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-29 14:08       ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-29 14:08         ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-29 18:32         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-29 18:32           ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-09-04 21:00         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-04 21:00           ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-09-05 15:26           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 15:26             ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 15:29             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-05 15:29               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-05 15:41             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-05 15:41               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-05 15:52               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 15:52                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 19:04               ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-05 19:04                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-05 19:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-05 19:22                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-05 19:38                   ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-05 19:38                     ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-05 20:46                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-05 20:46                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-09-10 15:33                       ` Andreas Färber
2012-09-10 15:33                         ` Andreas Färber
2012-09-06  3:42                     ` [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2012-09-06  3:42                       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2012-09-08  7:54                       ` [Qemu-ppc] [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-09-08  7:54                         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Blue Swirl
2012-09-05 19:24                 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2012-09-05 19:24                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2012-09-05 19:43                   ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-05 19:43                     ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-06  8:44                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-06  8:44                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-08  8:06                   ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-08  8:06                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-09-08  9:28                     ` [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2012-09-08  9:28                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2012-09-08 10:16                       ` [Qemu-ppc] [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-09-08 10:16                         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Blue Swirl
2012-09-08 12:13                         ` Alexander Graf
2012-09-08 12:13                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2012-09-08 12:30                           ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-08 12:30                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-09-08 14:59                             ` Alexander Graf
2012-09-08 14:59                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2012-08-27 18:56   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-27 18:56     ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-08-27 19:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-27 19:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-27 19:06       ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-27 19:06         ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-08-28  0:30     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-28  0:30       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-03 16:06       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03 16:06         ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28  7:35     ` Michael Tokarev
2012-08-28  7:35       ` Michael Tokarev
2012-08-28 17:01       ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-28 17:01         ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-28 17:28         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:28           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 17:38           ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-28 17:38             ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-28 19:31             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-28 19:31               ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-08-28 19:49               ` malc
2012-08-28 19:49                 ` [Qemu-devel] " malc
2012-08-28 20:06               ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-28 20:06                 ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-28 21:51                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-28 21:51                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-01  9:20                   ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-01  9:20                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-08-29  8:27               ` Markus Armbruster
2012-08-29  8:27                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2012-09-03 16:14                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03 16:14                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-09-03 19:32                   ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-03 19:32                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-09-04  8:32                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-04  8:32                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-04 19:27                       ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-04 19:27                         ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-04 21:28                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-04 21:28                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-05 19:09                           ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-05 19:09                             ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-28 11:02   ` [PATCH v2 " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-28 11:02     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-28 21:49     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 21:49       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29  8:44       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29  8:44         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 10:35         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 10:35           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-30 18:30     ` [PATCH v3 " Jan Kiszka
2012-08-30 18:30       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-09-06  8:44       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-06  8:44         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-09-06  8:49         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-06  8:49           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-06 16:06         ` Andreas Färber
2012-09-06 16:06           ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2012-09-06 16:16           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-06 16:16             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-09-08  7:55           ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-08  7:55             ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-09-09 14:13         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-09 14:13           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-09-10  9:26           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-10  9:26             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-09-10 12:30             ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-10 12:30               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-28 15:04   ` [PATCH " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-28 15:04     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-29 10:50     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 10:50       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka

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