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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "Ruhl, Michael J" <michael.j.ruhl@intel.com>,
	"guangming.cao@mediatek.com" <guangming.cao@mediatek.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] dma-buf: dma-heap: Add a size check for allocation
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 08:16:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b8182a1-7cdc-7369-5c34-e6d0c24efcca@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALAqxLXRtYDNQ8y1efVGa4SwUH_oAaHviZFjsOVSNFmUHnCCeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 14.01.22 um 00:26 schrieb John Stultz:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 5:05 AM Christian König
> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 13.01.22 um 14:00 schrieb Ruhl, Michael J:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dri-devel <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Ruhl, Michael J
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: dri-devel <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> guangming.cao@mediatek.com
>>>>> +   /*
>>>>> +    * Invalid size check. The "len" should be less than totalram.
>>>>> +    *
>>>>> +    * Without this check, once the invalid size allocation runs on a process
>>>>> that
>>>>> +    * can't be killed by OOM flow(such as "gralloc" on Android devices), it
>>>>> will
>>>>> +    * cause a kernel exception, and to make matters worse, we can't find
>>>>> who are using
>>>>> +    * so many memory with "dma_buf_debug_show" since the relevant
>>>>> dma-buf hasn't exported.
>>>>> +    */
>>>>> +   if (len >> PAGE_SHIFT > totalram_pages())
>>>> If your "heap" is from cma, is this still a valid check?
>>> And thinking a bit further, if I create a heap from something else (say device memory),
>>> you will need to be able to figure out the maximum allowable check for the specific
>>> heap.
>>>
>>> Maybe the heap needs a callback for max size?
>> Well we currently maintain a separate allocator and don't use dma-heap,
>> but yes we have systems with 16GiB device and only 8GiB system memory so
>> that check here is certainly not correct.
> Good point.
>
>> In general I would rather let the system run into -ENOMEM or -EINVAL
>> from the allocator instead.
> Probably the simpler solution is to push the allocation check to the
> heap driver, rather than doing it at the top level here.
>
> For CMA or other contiguous heaps, letting the allocator fail is fast
> enough. For noncontiguous buffers, like the system heap, the
> allocation can burn a lot of time and consume a lot of memory (causing
> other trouble) before a large allocation might naturally fail.

Yeah, letting a alloc_page() loop run for a while is usually not nice at 
all :)

You can still do a sanity check here, e.g. the size should never have 
the most significant bit set for example.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> thanks
> -john


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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "Ruhl, Michael J" <michael.j.ruhl@intel.com>,
	"guangming.cao@mediatek.com" <guangming.cao@mediatek.com>,
	"sumit.semwal@linaro.org" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"wsd_upstream@mediatek.com" <wsd_upstream@mediatek.com>,
	"libo.kang@mediatek.com" <libo.kang@mediatek.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"yf.wang@mediatek.com" <yf.wang@mediatek.com>,
	"linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
	"linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	"lmark@codeaurora.org" <lmark@codeaurora.org>,
	"benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org" <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>,
	"bo.song@mediatek.com" <bo.song@mediatek.com>,
	"matthias.bgg@gmail.com" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"labbott@redhat.com" <labbott@redhat.com>,
	"mingyuan.ma@mediatek.com" <mingyuan.ma@mediatek.com>,
	"jianjiao.zeng@mediatek.com" <jianjiao.zeng@mediatek.com>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] dma-buf: dma-heap: Add a size check for allocation
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 08:16:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b8182a1-7cdc-7369-5c34-e6d0c24efcca@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALAqxLXRtYDNQ8y1efVGa4SwUH_oAaHviZFjsOVSNFmUHnCCeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 14.01.22 um 00:26 schrieb John Stultz:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 5:05 AM Christian König
> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 13.01.22 um 14:00 schrieb Ruhl, Michael J:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dri-devel <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Ruhl, Michael J
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: dri-devel <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> guangming.cao@mediatek.com
>>>>> +   /*
>>>>> +    * Invalid size check. The "len" should be less than totalram.
>>>>> +    *
>>>>> +    * Without this check, once the invalid size allocation runs on a process
>>>>> that
>>>>> +    * can't be killed by OOM flow(such as "gralloc" on Android devices), it
>>>>> will
>>>>> +    * cause a kernel exception, and to make matters worse, we can't find
>>>>> who are using
>>>>> +    * so many memory with "dma_buf_debug_show" since the relevant
>>>>> dma-buf hasn't exported.
>>>>> +    */
>>>>> +   if (len >> PAGE_SHIFT > totalram_pages())
>>>> If your "heap" is from cma, is this still a valid check?
>>> And thinking a bit further, if I create a heap from something else (say device memory),
>>> you will need to be able to figure out the maximum allowable check for the specific
>>> heap.
>>>
>>> Maybe the heap needs a callback for max size?
>> Well we currently maintain a separate allocator and don't use dma-heap,
>> but yes we have systems with 16GiB device and only 8GiB system memory so
>> that check here is certainly not correct.
> Good point.
>
>> In general I would rather let the system run into -ENOMEM or -EINVAL
>> from the allocator instead.
> Probably the simpler solution is to push the allocation check to the
> heap driver, rather than doing it at the top level here.
>
> For CMA or other contiguous heaps, letting the allocator fail is fast
> enough. For noncontiguous buffers, like the system heap, the
> allocation can burn a lot of time and consume a lot of memory (causing
> other trouble) before a large allocation might naturally fail.

Yeah, letting a alloc_page() loop run for a while is usually not nice at 
all :)

You can still do a sanity check here, e.g. the size should never have 
the most significant bit set for example.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> thanks
> -john


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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "labbott@redhat.com" <labbott@redhat.com>,
	"guangming.cao@mediatek.com" <guangming.cao@mediatek.com>,
	"wsd_upstream@mediatek.com" <wsd_upstream@mediatek.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"libo.kang@mediatek.com" <libo.kang@mediatek.com>,
	"yf.wang@mediatek.com" <yf.wang@mediatek.com>,
	"linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
	"Ruhl, Michael J" <michael.j.ruhl@intel.com>,
	"jianjiao.zeng@mediatek.com" <jianjiao.zeng@mediatek.com>,
	"linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org" <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>,
	"bo.song@mediatek.com" <bo.song@mediatek.com>,
	"matthias.bgg@gmail.com" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"mingyuan.ma@mediatek.com" <mingyuan.ma@mediatek.com>,
	"lmark@codeaurora.org" <lmark@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] dma-buf: dma-heap: Add a size check for allocation
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 08:16:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b8182a1-7cdc-7369-5c34-e6d0c24efcca@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALAqxLXRtYDNQ8y1efVGa4SwUH_oAaHviZFjsOVSNFmUHnCCeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 14.01.22 um 00:26 schrieb John Stultz:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 5:05 AM Christian König
> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 13.01.22 um 14:00 schrieb Ruhl, Michael J:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dri-devel <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Ruhl, Michael J
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: dri-devel <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> guangming.cao@mediatek.com
>>>>> +   /*
>>>>> +    * Invalid size check. The "len" should be less than totalram.
>>>>> +    *
>>>>> +    * Without this check, once the invalid size allocation runs on a process
>>>>> that
>>>>> +    * can't be killed by OOM flow(such as "gralloc" on Android devices), it
>>>>> will
>>>>> +    * cause a kernel exception, and to make matters worse, we can't find
>>>>> who are using
>>>>> +    * so many memory with "dma_buf_debug_show" since the relevant
>>>>> dma-buf hasn't exported.
>>>>> +    */
>>>>> +   if (len >> PAGE_SHIFT > totalram_pages())
>>>> If your "heap" is from cma, is this still a valid check?
>>> And thinking a bit further, if I create a heap from something else (say device memory),
>>> you will need to be able to figure out the maximum allowable check for the specific
>>> heap.
>>>
>>> Maybe the heap needs a callback for max size?
>> Well we currently maintain a separate allocator and don't use dma-heap,
>> but yes we have systems with 16GiB device and only 8GiB system memory so
>> that check here is certainly not correct.
> Good point.
>
>> In general I would rather let the system run into -ENOMEM or -EINVAL
>> from the allocator instead.
> Probably the simpler solution is to push the allocation check to the
> heap driver, rather than doing it at the top level here.
>
> For CMA or other contiguous heaps, letting the allocator fail is fast
> enough. For noncontiguous buffers, like the system heap, the
> allocation can burn a lot of time and consume a lot of memory (causing
> other trouble) before a large allocation might naturally fail.

Yeah, letting a alloc_page() loop run for a while is usually not nice at 
all :)

You can still do a sanity check here, e.g. the size should never have 
the most significant bit set for example.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> thanks
> -john


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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "Ruhl, Michael J" <michael.j.ruhl@intel.com>,
	"guangming.cao@mediatek.com" <guangming.cao@mediatek.com>,
	"sumit.semwal@linaro.org" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"wsd_upstream@mediatek.com" <wsd_upstream@mediatek.com>,
	"libo.kang@mediatek.com" <libo.kang@mediatek.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"yf.wang@mediatek.com" <yf.wang@mediatek.com>,
	"linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
	"linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	"lmark@codeaurora.org" <lmark@codeaurora.org>,
	"benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org" <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>,
	"bo.song@mediatek.com" <bo.song@mediatek.com>,
	"matthias.bgg@gmail.com" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"labbott@redhat.com" <labbott@redhat.com>,
	"mingyuan.ma@mediatek.com" <mingyuan.ma@mediatek.com>,
	"jianjiao.zeng@mediatek.com" <jianjiao.zeng@mediatek.com>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] dma-buf: dma-heap: Add a size check for allocation
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 08:16:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b8182a1-7cdc-7369-5c34-e6d0c24efcca@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALAqxLXRtYDNQ8y1efVGa4SwUH_oAaHviZFjsOVSNFmUHnCCeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 14.01.22 um 00:26 schrieb John Stultz:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 5:05 AM Christian König
> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>> Am 13.01.22 um 14:00 schrieb Ruhl, Michael J:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dri-devel <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Ruhl, Michael J
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: dri-devel <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> guangming.cao@mediatek.com
>>>>> +   /*
>>>>> +    * Invalid size check. The "len" should be less than totalram.
>>>>> +    *
>>>>> +    * Without this check, once the invalid size allocation runs on a process
>>>>> that
>>>>> +    * can't be killed by OOM flow(such as "gralloc" on Android devices), it
>>>>> will
>>>>> +    * cause a kernel exception, and to make matters worse, we can't find
>>>>> who are using
>>>>> +    * so many memory with "dma_buf_debug_show" since the relevant
>>>>> dma-buf hasn't exported.
>>>>> +    */
>>>>> +   if (len >> PAGE_SHIFT > totalram_pages())
>>>> If your "heap" is from cma, is this still a valid check?
>>> And thinking a bit further, if I create a heap from something else (say device memory),
>>> you will need to be able to figure out the maximum allowable check for the specific
>>> heap.
>>>
>>> Maybe the heap needs a callback for max size?
>> Well we currently maintain a separate allocator and don't use dma-heap,
>> but yes we have systems with 16GiB device and only 8GiB system memory so
>> that check here is certainly not correct.
> Good point.
>
>> In general I would rather let the system run into -ENOMEM or -EINVAL
>> from the allocator instead.
> Probably the simpler solution is to push the allocation check to the
> heap driver, rather than doing it at the top level here.
>
> For CMA or other contiguous heaps, letting the allocator fail is fast
> enough. For noncontiguous buffers, like the system heap, the
> allocation can burn a lot of time and consume a lot of memory (causing
> other trouble) before a large allocation might naturally fail.

Yeah, letting a alloc_page() loop run for a while is usually not nice at 
all :)

You can still do a sanity check here, e.g. the size should never have 
the most significant bit set for example.

Regards,
Christian.

>
> thanks
> -john


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-14  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-17  9:41 [PATCH] dma-buf: dma-heap: Add a size limitation for allocation guangming.cao
2021-12-17  9:41 ` guangming.cao
2021-12-17  9:41 ` guangming.cao
2021-12-17  9:41 ` guangming.cao
2021-12-27  9:51 ` [PATCH v2] dma-buf: dma-heap: Add a size check " guangming.cao
2021-12-27  9:51   ` guangming.cao
2021-12-27  9:51   ` guangming.cao
2021-12-27  9:51   ` guangming.cao
2022-01-03 18:57   ` John Stultz
2022-01-03 18:57     ` John Stultz
2022-01-03 18:57     ` John Stultz
2022-01-03 18:57     ` John Stultz
2022-01-04  7:47     ` Christian König
2022-01-04  7:47       ` Christian König
2022-01-04  7:47       ` Christian König
2022-01-04  7:47       ` Christian König
2022-01-04  8:44       ` Guangming.Cao
2022-01-04  8:44         ` Guangming.Cao
2022-01-04  8:44         ` Guangming.Cao
2022-01-05  6:36       ` guangming.cao
2022-01-05  6:36         ` guangming.cao
2022-01-05  6:36         ` guangming.cao
2022-01-05  6:36         ` guangming.cao
2022-01-13 10:50         ` Sumit Semwal
2022-01-13 10:50           ` Sumit Semwal
2022-01-13 10:50           ` Sumit Semwal
2022-01-13 10:50           ` Sumit Semwal
2022-01-13 12:34           ` [PATCH v3] " guangming.cao
2022-01-13 12:34             ` guangming.cao
2022-01-13 12:34             ` guangming.cao
2022-01-13 12:34             ` guangming.cao
2022-01-13 12:57             ` Ruhl, Michael J
2022-01-13 12:57               ` Ruhl, Michael J
2022-01-13 12:57               ` Ruhl, Michael J
2022-01-13 12:57               ` Ruhl, Michael J
2022-01-13 13:00               ` Ruhl, Michael J
2022-01-13 13:00                 ` Ruhl, Michael J
2022-01-13 13:00                 ` Ruhl, Michael J
2022-01-13 13:00                 ` Ruhl, Michael J
2022-01-13 13:05                 ` Christian König
2022-01-13 13:05                   ` Christian König
2022-01-13 13:05                   ` Christian König
2022-01-13 13:05                   ` Christian König
2022-01-13 23:26                   ` John Stultz
2022-01-13 23:26                     ` John Stultz
2022-01-13 23:26                     ` John Stultz
2022-01-13 23:26                     ` John Stultz
2022-01-14  7:16                     ` Christian König [this message]
2022-01-14  7:16                       ` Christian König
2022-01-14  7:16                       ` Christian König
2022-01-14  7:16                       ` Christian König
2022-01-14 12:05                       ` Guangming.Cao
2022-01-14 12:05                         ` Guangming.Cao
2022-01-14 12:05                         ` Guangming.Cao
2022-01-15  1:17                         ` John Stultz
2022-01-15  1:17                           ` John Stultz
2022-01-15  1:17                           ` John Stultz
2022-01-15  1:17                           ` John Stultz
2022-01-19  9:59                           ` Guangming.Cao
2022-01-19  9:59                             ` Guangming.Cao
2022-01-19  9:59                             ` Guangming.Cao
2022-01-19 20:37                             ` John Stultz
2022-01-19 20:37                               ` John Stultz
2022-01-19 20:37                               ` John Stultz
2022-01-19 20:37                               ` John Stultz
2022-01-20  3:34                               ` [PATCH v4] dma-buf: system_heap: " guangming.cao
2022-01-20  3:34                                 ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20  3:34                                 ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20  3:34                                 ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20  3:48                                 ` John Stultz
2022-01-20  3:48                                   ` John Stultz
2022-01-20  3:48                                   ` John Stultz
2022-01-20  3:48                                   ` John Stultz
2022-01-20  7:08                                   ` [PATCH v5] " guangming.cao
2022-01-20  7:08                                     ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20  7:08                                     ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20  7:08                                     ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20  8:27                                     ` Christian König
2022-01-20  8:27                                       ` Christian König
2022-01-20  8:27                                       ` Christian König
2022-01-20  8:27                                       ` Christian König
2022-01-20  8:52                                       ` [PATCH v6] " guangming.cao
2022-01-20  8:52                                         ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20  8:52                                         ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20  8:52                                         ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20 10:00                                         ` [PATCH v6 RESEND] " guangming.cao
2022-01-20 10:00                                           ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20 10:00                                           ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20 10:00                                           ` guangming.cao
2022-01-20 10:22                                           ` Christian König
2022-01-20 10:22                                             ` Christian König
2022-01-20 10:22                                             ` Christian König
2022-01-20 10:22                                             ` Christian König

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