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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 06/11] x86/entry: Organise the use of MSR_SPEC_CTRL at each entry/exit point
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 21:19:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <73241145-36d9-1bf6-861e-f57bba67457f@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5a43c1d-cdf2-fd76-75d2-1fbadc671a28@citrix.com>



On 01/22/2018 07:17 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 22/01/2018 22:27, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>> On 01/19/2018 08:36 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>> On 19/01/18 11:43, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>
>>>>> @@ -99,6 +106,10 @@ UNLIKELY_END(realmode)
>>>>>   .Lvmx_vmentry_fail:
>>>>>           sti
>>>>>           SAVE_ALL
>>>>> +
>>>>> +        SPEC_CTRL_ENTRY_FROM_PV /* Req: %rsp=regs/cpuinfo Clob: acd */
>>>> I think the use of the PV variant here requires a comment.
>>> Oh.  It used to have one...  I'll try to find it.
>> I, in fact, meant to ask about this for a long time and always forgot.
>> Perhaps your comment will say more than just why a PV variant is used
>> here but in case it won't --- why do we have *any* mitigation here? We
>> are never returning to the guest, do we?
> 
> We never return to *this* guest, but we are still open to abuse from a
> separate hyperthread, so still need to set SPEC_CTRL.IBRS if we are
> using IBRS for safety.  (If we are using lfence+jmp or repoline then we
> don't need this change, but its not a hotpath so doesn't warrant yet
> another variant of SPEC_CTRL_ENTRY_FROM_*.)


We wrote IBRS during VMEXIT. I thought this serves as barrier for all 
preceding predictions (both threads) from lower protection mode.

Is the concern here that SPEC_CTRL_EXIT_TO_GUEST (before VMENTER) may 
set IBRS to 0 and *that* will open hypervisor to other thread's mischief?

-boris

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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-18 15:45 [PATCH v9 00/11] x86: Mitigations for SP2/CVE-2017-5715/Branch Target Injection Andrew Cooper
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 01/11] x86/thunk: Fix GEN_INDIRECT_THUNK comment Andrew Cooper
2018-01-18 16:06   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 02/11] x86/cpuid: Handling of IBRS/IBPB, STIBP and IBRS for guests Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 10:40   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 10:53     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 11:46       ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 12:01         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 12:11           ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 12:36             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 12:52               ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 13:06                 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 13:33                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 15:00                     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 15:09                       ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 03/11] x86/msr: Emulation of MSR_{SPEC_CTRL, PRED_CMD} " Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 10:45   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 11:05     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-22 14:50     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 04/11] x86/migrate: Move MSR_SPEC_CTRL on migrate Andrew Cooper
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 05/11] x86/hvm: Permit guests direct access to MSR_{SPEC_CTRL, PRED_CMD} Andrew Cooper
2018-01-18 18:04   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2018-01-19 10:52   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 10:54     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-22  1:47   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 06/11] x86/entry: Organise the use of MSR_SPEC_CTRL at each entry/exit point Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 10:39   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 11:43   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 13:36     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 13:51       ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-22 11:42         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-22 12:06           ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-22 13:52             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-22 22:27       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2018-01-23  0:17         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-23  2:19           ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2018-01-23 20:00             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 07/11] x86/boot: Calculate the most appropriate BTI mitigation to use Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 12:06   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 13:48     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 14:01   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-22 15:11     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 08/11] x86/entry: Clobber the Return Stack Buffer/Return Address Stack on entry to Xen Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 12:47   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 14:24     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 15:02       ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 16:10         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 16:19           ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 16:43             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-22 15:51         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-22 16:49           ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-22 17:04             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 09/11] x86/ctxt: Issue a speculation barrier between vcpu contexts Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 13:25   ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-19 14:48     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-19 15:07       ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-20 11:10         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-22 10:15           ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 10/11] x86/cpuid: Offer Indirect Branch Controls to guests Andrew Cooper
2018-01-18 15:46 ` [PATCH v9 11/11] x86/idle: Clear SPEC_CTRL while idle Andrew Cooper

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