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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
To: Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] perf kmem: Add more functions and show more  statistics
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:15:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84144f020911232315h7c8b7348u9ad97f585f54a014@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B0B6E44.6090106@cn.fujitsu.com>

Hi Li,

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Pekka, do you think we can remove kmemtrace now?

One more use case I forgot to mention: boot time tracing. Much of the
persistent kernel memory footprint comes from the boot process which
is why it's important to be able to trace memory allocations
immediately after kmem_cache_init() has run. Can we make "perf kmem"
do that? Eduard put most of his efforts into making that work for
kmemtrace.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> With kmem trace events, low-level analyzing can be done using
> ftrace, and high-level analyzing can be done using perf-kmem.
>
> And chance is, more people may use and improve perf-kmem, and it
> will be well-maintained within the perf infrastructure. On the
> other hand, I guess few people use and contribute to kmemtrace-user.

Sure, I think "perf kmem" is the way forward. I'd love to hear
Eduard's comments on this before we remove the code from kernel. Do we
need to do that for 2.6.33 or can we postpone that for 2.6.34?

                        Pekka

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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
To: Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] perf kmem: Add more functions and show more statistics
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:15:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84144f020911232315h7c8b7348u9ad97f585f54a014@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B0B6E44.6090106@cn.fujitsu.com>

Hi Li,

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Pekka, do you think we can remove kmemtrace now?

One more use case I forgot to mention: boot time tracing. Much of the
persistent kernel memory footprint comes from the boot process which
is why it's important to be able to trace memory allocations
immediately after kmem_cache_init() has run. Can we make "perf kmem"
do that? Eduard put most of his efforts into making that work for
kmemtrace.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> With kmem trace events, low-level analyzing can be done using
> ftrace, and high-level analyzing can be done using perf-kmem.
>
> And chance is, more people may use and improve perf-kmem, and it
> will be well-maintained within the perf infrastructure. On the
> other hand, I guess few people use and contribute to kmemtrace-user.

Sure, I think "perf kmem" is the way forward. I'd love to hear
Eduard's comments on this before we remove the code from kernel. Do we
need to do that for 2.6.33 or can we postpone that for 2.6.34?

                        Pekka

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-24  7:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-24  5:25 [PATCH 0/5] perf kmem: Add more functions and show more statistics Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:25 ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] perf kmem: Add new option to show raw ip Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:25   ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:54   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:54     ` tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:26 ` [PATCH 2/5] perf kmem: Default to sort by fragmentation Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:26   ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55     ` tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] perf kmem: Collect cross node allocation statistics Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:26   ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55     ` tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] perf kmem: Measure kmalloc/kfree CPU ping-pong call-sites Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:26   ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55     ` tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] perf kmem: Add help file Li Zefan
2009-11-24  5:27   ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24 16:55     ` tip-bot for Li Zefan
2009-11-24  7:15 ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2009-11-24  7:15   ` [PATCH 0/5] perf kmem: Add more functions and show more statistics Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24  7:34   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24  7:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24  7:45     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24  7:45       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24  7:47       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24  7:47         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24  8:04     ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24  8:04       ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24  8:34       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24  8:34         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 14:57         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-11-24 14:57           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-11-24  7:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24  7:18   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-24  9:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24  9:38   ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24  9:38     ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 10:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 11:04       ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 11:04         ` Li Zefan
2009-11-24 20:35         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 20:35           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 22:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 22:34             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-24 18:49       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-24 18:49         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-24 19:38       ` [PATCH] perf: Fix bad software/trace event recursion counting Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-24 20:36         ` [tip:perf/core] perf_events: " tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-24 20:48         ` [PATCH] perf: " Peter Zijlstra

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