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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, paulus@samba.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: question about softirqs
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:34:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874ovpmmdq.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A09933B.8010606@nortel.com> (Chris Friesen's message of "Tue, 12 May 2009 09:18:19 -0600")

"Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com> writes:
>
> One of the reasons I brought up this issue is that there is a lot of
> documentation out there that says "softirqs will be processed on return
> from a syscall".  The fact that it actually depends on the scheduler
> parameters of the task issuing the syscall isn't ever mentioned.

It's not mentioned because it is not currently.

However some network TCP RX processing can happen in process context,
which gives you most of the benefit anyways.

> In fact, "Documentation/DocBook/kernel-hacking.tmpl" in the kernel
> source still has the following:
>
>     Whenever a system call is about to return to userspace, or a
>     hardware interrupt handler exits, any 'software interrupts'
>     which are marked pending (usually by hardware interrupts) are
>     run (<filename>kernel/softirq.c</filename>).
>
> If anyone is looking at changing this code, it might be good to ensure
> that at least the kernel docs are updated.

So far the code is not changed in mainline. There have been some
proposals only.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, paulus@samba.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: question about softirqs
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:34:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874ovpmmdq.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A09933B.8010606@nortel.com> (Chris Friesen's message of "Tue, 12 May 2009 09:18:19 -0600")

"Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com> writes:
>
> One of the reasons I brought up this issue is that there is a lot of
> documentation out there that says "softirqs will be processed on return
> from a syscall".  The fact that it actually depends on the scheduler
> parameters of the task issuing the syscall isn't ever mentioned.

It's not mentioned because it is not currently.

However some network TCP RX processing can happen in process context,
which gives you most of the benefit anyways.

> In fact, "Documentation/DocBook/kernel-hacking.tmpl" in the kernel
> source still has the following:
>
>     Whenever a system call is about to return to userspace, or a
>     hardware interrupt handler exits, any 'software interrupts'
>     which are marked pending (usually by hardware interrupts) are
>     run (<filename>kernel/softirq.c</filename>).
>
> If anyone is looking at changing this code, it might be good to ensure
> that at least the kernel docs are updated.

So far the code is not changed in mainline. There have been some
proposals only.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-13  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-08 22:51 question about softirqs Chris Friesen
2009-05-08 23:05 ` David Miller
2009-05-08 23:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-05-08 23:53   ` David Miller
2009-05-09  2:52     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-09  3:31     ` Paul Mackerras
2009-05-09  6:48       ` David Miller
2009-05-11 18:25         ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-11 23:24           ` David Miller
2009-05-12  0:43             ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-12  8:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-12  8:12                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-12  9:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-12  9:23                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-12  9:32                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-12 12:20                       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-12 12:20                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-13  4:45                         ` David Miller
2009-05-13  4:44                     ` David Miller
2009-05-13  4:44                       ` David Miller
2009-05-13  5:15                       ` Paul Mackerras
2009-05-13  5:15                         ` Paul Mackerras
2009-05-13  5:28                         ` David Miller
2009-05-13  5:28                           ` David Miller
2009-05-13  5:55                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-05-13  5:55                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-05-12 15:18                 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-12 15:18                   ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13  8:34                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-05-13  8:34                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 13:23                     ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 14:15                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 14:15                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 14:17                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-13 14:17                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-13 14:24                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 14:24                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 14:54                             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-13 14:54                               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-05-13 15:02                               ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 15:02                                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 15:05                             ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 15:54                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-13 15:54                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-13 16:10                                 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 17:01                               ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 19:04                                 ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 19:04                                   ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 19:13                                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 19:13                                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 19:44                                     ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-13 19:53                                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 19:53                                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 20:55                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-13 20:55                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-11 23:34           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-05-09  0:28   ` Chris Friesen

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