From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk \(man-pages\)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
"libc-alpha\@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Official Linux system wrapper library?
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:02:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878t1zx4gj.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3664a508-ca74-4ff0-39a6-34543194a24e@gmail.com> (Michael Kerrisk's message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:53:54 +0100")
* Michael Kerrisk:
> I'm not sure I'd view the glibc position quite so harshly (although
> it is disappointing to me that bug 6399 remains open). I think they
> are simply short of people to work on this task. There was a lengthy
> period where no syscall wrappers were being added (pretty much from
> 2.16 to 2.24, as far as I can tell), but that has changed.
People may have disappeared from glibc development who have objected to
gettid. I thought this was the case with strlcpy/strlcat, but it was
not.
At present, it takes one semi-active glibc contributor to block addition
of a system call. The process to override a sustained objection has
never been used successfully, and it is a lot of work to get it even
started.
Thanks,
Florian
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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Official Linux system wrapper library?
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:02:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878t1zx4gj.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3664a508-ca74-4ff0-39a6-34543194a24e@gmail.com> (Michael Kerrisk's message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:53:54 +0100")
* Michael Kerrisk:
> I'm not sure I'd view the glibc position quite so harshly (although
> it is disappointing to me that bug 6399 remains open). I think they
> are simply short of people to work on this task. There was a lengthy
> period where no syscall wrappers were being added (pretty much from
> 2.16 to 2.24, as far as I can tell), but that has changed.
People may have disappeared from glibc development who have objected to
gettid. I thought this was the case with strlcpy/strlcat, but it was
not.
At present, it takes one semi-active glibc contributor to block addition
of a system call. The process to override a sustained objection has
never been used successfully, and it is a lot of work to get it even
started.
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-11 11:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-10 18:52 Official Linux system wrapper library? Daniel Colascione
2018-11-10 19:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-10 19:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-10 19:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-10 19:20 ` Greg KH
2018-11-10 19:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-12 2:03 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-12 2:24 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-12 2:36 ` Greg KH
2018-11-12 16:08 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-12 20:03 ` Greg KH
2018-12-09 4:38 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-12-10 16:27 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-12-10 17:39 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-12-10 23:32 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-11-12 5:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-11 6:55 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-11-11 8:17 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-11 8:25 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-11 10:40 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 10:40 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 10:30 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 10:30 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 11:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-11 12:07 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 12:07 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 10:53 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-11-11 11:02 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2018-11-11 11:02 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 16:43 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-13 15:15 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-11 11:11 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-11 11:46 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 11:46 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 12:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-12 12:25 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 12:25 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 17:36 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-12 17:53 ` Greg KH
2018-11-12 18:09 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-12 18:14 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-11-12 16:59 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-14 12:03 ` Adam Borowski
2018-11-14 12:10 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-14 12:10 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-16 21:24 ` Alan Cox
2018-11-11 11:09 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 11:09 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 14:22 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 1:44 ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-12 8:11 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 8:11 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 13:19 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 17:24 ` Zack Weinberg
2018-11-12 18:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 19:11 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 19:11 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 19:26 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 22:51 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-12 23:10 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 23:26 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-12 22:34 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-13 19:39 ` Dave Martin
2018-11-13 20:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-14 10:54 ` Dave Martin
2018-11-14 11:40 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-14 11:40 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-15 10:33 ` Dave Martin
2018-11-14 11:58 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-14 14:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-14 15:07 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-14 15:07 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-14 17:40 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-14 18:13 ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-14 14:58 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-14 17:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-14 18:30 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-14 18:30 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-14 15:40 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-14 18:15 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-14 18:35 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-14 18:47 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-15 5:30 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-15 16:29 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-15 17:08 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-15 17:14 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-15 21:00 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-15 20:34 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-23 13:34 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 13:34 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 14:11 ` David Newall
2018-11-23 15:23 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-24 3:41 ` David Newall
2018-11-28 13:18 ` David Laight
2018-11-23 20:15 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-23 23:19 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-11-12 12:45 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-12 14:35 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-12 14:40 ` Daniel Colascione
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