* Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days @ 2019-05-03 18:01 Volosincu, Andreea S 2019-05-03 18:07 ` [Yocto-Advocacy] " akuster ` (4 more replies) 0 siblings, 5 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Volosincu, Andreea S @ 2019-05-03 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: yocto-advocacy, Yocto list discussion [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1709 bytes --] Greetings, Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. Here is a snapshot of our schedule: ELC NA - Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA Yocto Project is a sponsor. We'll see you on the show floor ELC NA Dev Day - Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) Level: Intermediate - Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers ELCE - Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France Yocto Project is a sponsor. We'll see you on the show floor ELCE Yocto Project Summit - Dates & Times: Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM Set-up: Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) Includes: Morning Break for 2 days Buffet Lunch for 2 days Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. Thanks! Andreea Yocto Project Advocacy Lead [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 5451 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-03 18:01 Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days Volosincu, Andreea S @ 2019-05-03 18:07 ` akuster 2019-05-03 22:01 ` Volosincu, Andreea S 2019-05-04 11:50 ` JH ` (3 subsequent siblings) 4 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: akuster @ 2019-05-03 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Volosincu, Andreea S, yocto-advocacy, Yocto list discussion [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2151 bytes --] On 5/3/19 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming > Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. > > > > Here is a snapshot of our schedule: > > > > ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, > San Diego, CA > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the > show floor > > > > ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) > > Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner > material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites > > Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with > light appetizers > So beer is a prerequisite for Intermediate level? This is a conflict with Linux Security summit unless someone can convince me to be part of the training? - armin > > > ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: > > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > > Set-up: > > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks > > Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & > Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > > Includes: > > Morning Break for 2 days > > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day > > The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the > community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas > on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your > ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. > > > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over > plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 6423 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-03 18:07 ` [Yocto-Advocacy] " akuster @ 2019-05-03 22:01 ` Volosincu, Andreea S [not found] ` <0980DABF-86C8-4A9D-8687-B9C27EE2FF61@converseincode.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Volosincu, Andreea S @ 2019-05-03 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: akuster, yocto-advocacy, Yocto list discussion [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2604 bytes --] Hi Armin, Thanks for letting us know. The security summit overlaps with a lot of things, including the first ELC day. Hopefully we can make it work by fine-tuning the agenda in such a way that you attend just the portion of the day that is interesting to you, or you are presenting. Let's talk more during the advocacy call. Thanks! Andreea From: akuster [mailto:akuster@mvista.com] Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 11:07 AM To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days On 5/3/19 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: Greetings, Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. Here is a snapshot of our schedule: ELC NA - Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA Yocto Project is a sponsor. We'll see you on the show floor ELC NA Dev Day - Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) Level: Intermediate - Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers So beer is a prerequisite for Intermediate level? This is a conflict with Linux Security summit unless someone can convince me to be part of the training? - armin ELCE - Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France Yocto Project is a sponsor. We'll see you on the show floor ELCE Yocto Project Summit - Dates & Times: Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM Set-up: Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) Includes: Morning Break for 2 days Buffet Lunch for 2 days Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. Thanks! Andreea Yocto Project Advocacy Lead [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 8268 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days [not found] ` <0980DABF-86C8-4A9D-8687-B9C27EE2FF61@converseincode.com> @ 2019-05-05 21:45 ` Volosincu, Andreea S [not found] ` <2D39B7E1-DC52-42A6-8332-50ED49F77722@converseincode.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Volosincu, Andreea S @ 2019-05-05 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Behan Webster; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3654 bytes --] That’s correct. We’ll provide previous beginner material as pre-class homework. Andreea From: Behan Webster [mailto:behanw@converseincode.com] Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:30 AM To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> Cc: akuster <akuster@mvista.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days So does this mean there won’t be a beginner class at all? Behan Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone On May 3, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com<mailto:andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>> wrote: Hi Armin, Thanks for letting us know. The security summit overlaps with a lot of things, including the first ELC day. Hopefully we can make it work by fine-tuning the agenda in such a way that you attend just the portion of the day that is interesting to you, or you are presenting. Let’s talk more during the advocacy call. Thanks! Andreea From: akuster [mailto:akuster@mvista.com] Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 11:07 AM To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com<mailto:andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org>; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto@yoctoproject.org>> Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days On 5/3/19 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: Greetings, Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. Here is a snapshot of our schedule: ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers So beer is a prerequisite for Intermediate level? This is a conflict with Linux Security summit unless someone can convince me to be part of the training? - armin ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM Set-up: Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) Includes: Morning Break for 2 days Buffet Lunch for 2 days Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. Thanks! Andreea Yocto Project Advocacy Lead -- _______________________________________________ yocto-advocacy mailing list yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 10872 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days [not found] ` <2D39B7E1-DC52-42A6-8332-50ED49F77722@converseincode.com> @ 2019-05-06 10:45 ` Josef Holzmayr 2019-05-06 15:46 ` Bas Mevissen ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Josef Holzmayr @ 2019-05-06 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Behan Webster; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy I'd actually word it a little bit differently: If there is only *ONE* attendee who did not properly do the homework, it will have a massive impact an the rest of the group. And that somebody will show up unpreparedly is absolutely certain in my opinion. As someone who actually got started through the YPDD beginner track (and also often recommends it to new beginners), my opinion is clearly that we either should have it, be it only for a handful of attendees, or offer a *real* replacement, with face to face training. My experience is that this personal thing in the very beginning is an absolutely essential part of many YP/OE careers. Greetz On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 04:46:12PM -0700, Behan Webster wrote: > Just for the record, speaking as a professional trainer, and someone who makes material available before classes in the hopes that people will do “pre-class homework”, almost nobody even glances through any material sent before class. And many people claim to have never received it (for various reasons, but often because it ends up ignored or in spam). > > Essentially I wouldn’t count on anyone actually looking at anything before arriving, because statistically nobody does. > > Behan > > Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone > > > On May 5, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: > > > > That’s correct. We’ll provide previous beginner material as pre-class homework. > > > > Andreea > > > > From: Behan Webster [mailto:behanw@converseincode.com] > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:30 AM > > To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> > > Cc: akuster <akuster@mvista.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> > > Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days > > > > So does this mean there won’t be a beginner class at all? > > > > Behan > > > > Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone > > > > On May 3, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Armin, > > > > Thanks for letting us know. The security summit overlaps with a lot of things, including the first ELC day. > > > > Hopefully we can make it work by fine-tuning the agenda in such a way that you attend just the portion of the day that is interesting to you, or you are presenting. > > > > Let’s talk more during the advocacy call. > > > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > > > From: akuster [mailto:akuster@mvista.com] > > Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 11:07 AM > > To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> > > Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days > > > > > > > > On 5/3/19 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. > > > > Here is a snapshot of our schedule: > > > > ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > > > ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) > > Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites > > Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers > > So beer is a prerequisite for Intermediate level? > > > > This is a conflict with Linux Security summit unless someone can convince me to be part of the training? > > > > - armin > > > > > > > > > > ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: > > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > > Set-up: > > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks > > Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > > Includes: > > Morning Break for 2 days > > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day > > The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. > > > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > > > > > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > yocto-advocacy mailing list > > yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org > > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy > -- > _______________________________________________ > yocto-advocacy mailing list > yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy -- ——————————————— Josef Holzmayr Software Developer Embedded Systems Tel: +49 8444 9204-48 Fax: +49 8444 9204-50 R-S-I Elektrotechnik GmbH & Co. KG Woelkestrasse 11 D-85301 Schweitenkirchen www.rsi-elektrotechnik.de ——————————————— Amtsgericht Ingolstadt – GmbH: HRB 191328 – KG: HRA 170393 Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Michael Sorg, Dipl.-Ing. Franz Sorg Ust-IdNr: DE 128592548 _____________________________________________________________ Amtsgericht Ingolstadt - GmbH: HRB 191328 - KG: HRA 170363 Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Michael Sorg, Dipl.-Ing. Franz Sorg USt-IdNr.: DE 128592548 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-06 10:45 ` Josef Holzmayr @ 2019-05-06 15:46 ` Bas Mevissen 2019-05-06 17:50 ` Volosincu, Andreea S [not found] ` <c3cbc64b-f7ea-f2d3-32ae-7a94b8693713@emcodev.nl> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Bas Mevissen @ 2019-05-06 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Josef Holzmayr, Behan Webster; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy On 5/6/19 12:45 PM, Josef Holzmayr wrote: > I'd actually word it a little bit differently: > > If there is only *ONE* attendee who did not properly do the homework, it > will have a massive impact an the rest of the group. And that somebody > will show up unpreparedly is absolutely certain in my opinion. > With sufficient trainers, one can continue for most and provide some assistance to the one falling behind. > As someone who actually got started through the YPDD beginner track (and > also often recommends it to new beginners), my opinion is clearly that > we either should have it, be it only for a handful of attendees, or > offer a *real* replacement, with face to face training. My experience is > that this personal thing in the very beginning is an absolutely > essential part of many YP/OE careers. > I agree. That is how I started, next to a compressed Linux Foundation Yocto training that was offered just before the event then. So it might be wise to ask LF or get something organised. It would mostly require a room and a sponsor for some small devkit. > Greetz > > On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 04:46:12PM -0700, Behan Webster wrote: >> Just for the record, speaking as a professional trainer, and someone who makes material available before classes in the hopes that people will do “pre-class homework”, almost nobody even glances through any material sent before class. And many people claim to have never received it (for various reasons, but often because it ends up ignored or in spam). >> >> Essentially I wouldn’t count on anyone actually looking at anything before arriving, because statistically nobody does. >> >> Behan >> >> Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone >> >>> On May 5, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: >>> >>> That’s correct. We’ll provide previous beginner material as pre-class homework. >>> >>> Andreea >>> >>> From: Behan Webster [mailto:behanw@converseincode.com] >>> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:30 AM >>> To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> >>> Cc: akuster <akuster@mvista.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days >>> >>> So does this mean there won’t be a beginner class at all? >>> >>> Behan >>> >>> Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone >>> >>> On May 3, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Armin, >>> >>> Thanks for letting us know. The security summit overlaps with a lot of things, including the first ELC day. >>> >>> Hopefully we can make it work by fine-tuning the agenda in such a way that you attend just the portion of the day that is interesting to you, or you are presenting. >>> >>> Let’s talk more during the advocacy call. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Andreea >>> >>> From: akuster [mailto:akuster@mvista.com] >>> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 11:07 AM >>> To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/3/19 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. >>> >>> Here is a snapshot of our schedule: >>> >>> ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA >>> Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor >>> >>> ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM >>> Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) >>> Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites >>> Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers >>> So beer is a prerequisite for Intermediate level? >>> >>> This is a conflict with Linux Security summit unless someone can convince me to be part of the training? >>> >>> - armin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France >>> Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor >>> >>> ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: >>> Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM >>> November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM >>> Set-up: >>> Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks >>> Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) >>> Includes: >>> Morning Break for 2 days >>> Buffet Lunch for 2 days >>> Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day >>> The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. >>> >>> We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Andreea >>> Yocto Project Advocacy Lead >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yocto-advocacy mailing list >>> yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org >>> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy > >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> yocto-advocacy mailing list >> yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy > > Bas. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-06 10:45 ` Josef Holzmayr 2019-05-06 15:46 ` Bas Mevissen @ 2019-05-06 17:50 ` Volosincu, Andreea S [not found] ` <c3cbc64b-f7ea-f2d3-32ae-7a94b8693713@emcodev.nl> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Volosincu, Andreea S @ 2019-05-06 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Josef Holzmayr, Behan Webster; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy Good points to keep in mind. I will add them to the agenda for the upcoming advocacy call. Thanks! Andreea -----Original Message----- From: Josef Holzmayr [mailto:holzmayr@rsi-elektrotechnik.de] Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 3:45 AM To: Behan Webster <behanw@converseincode.com> Cc: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days I'd actually word it a little bit differently: If there is only *ONE* attendee who did not properly do the homework, it will have a massive impact an the rest of the group. And that somebody will show up unpreparedly is absolutely certain in my opinion. As someone who actually got started through the YPDD beginner track (and also often recommends it to new beginners), my opinion is clearly that we either should have it, be it only for a handful of attendees, or offer a *real* replacement, with face to face training. My experience is that this personal thing in the very beginning is an absolutely essential part of many YP/OE careers. Greetz On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 04:46:12PM -0700, Behan Webster wrote: > Just for the record, speaking as a professional trainer, and someone who makes material available before classes in the hopes that people will do “pre-class homework”, almost nobody even glances through any material sent before class. And many people claim to have never received it (for various reasons, but often because it ends up ignored or in spam). > > Essentially I wouldn’t count on anyone actually looking at anything before arriving, because statistically nobody does. > > Behan > > Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone > > > On May 5, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: > > > > That’s correct. We’ll provide previous beginner material as pre-class homework. > > > > Andreea > > > > From: Behan Webster [mailto:behanw@converseincode.com] > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:30 AM > > To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> > > Cc: akuster <akuster@mvista.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; > > Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> > > Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and > > Developer Days > > > > So does this mean there won’t be a beginner class at all? > > > > Behan > > > > Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone > > > > On May 3, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Armin, > > > > Thanks for letting us know. The security summit overlaps with a lot of things, including the first ELC day. > > > > Hopefully we can make it work by fine-tuning the agenda in such a way that you attend just the portion of the day that is interesting to you, or you are presenting. > > > > Let’s talk more during the advocacy call. > > > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > > > From: akuster [mailto:akuster@mvista.com] > > Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 11:07 AM > > To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; > > yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion > > <yocto@yoctoproject.org> > > Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and > > Developer Days > > > > > > > > On 5/3/19 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. > > > > Here is a snapshot of our schedule: > > > > ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the > > show floor > > > > ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) > > Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner > > material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites > > Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with > > light appetizers So beer is a prerequisite for Intermediate level? > > > > This is a conflict with Linux Security summit unless someone can convince me to be part of the training? > > > > - armin > > > > > > > > > > ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show > > floor > > > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: > > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > > Set-up: > > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project > > talks Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for > > 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > > Includes: > > Morning Break for 2 days > > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day The goal for > > the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. > > > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > > > > > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > yocto-advocacy mailing list > > yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org > > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy > -- > _______________________________________________ > yocto-advocacy mailing list > yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy -- ——————————————— Josef Holzmayr Software Developer Embedded Systems Tel: +49 8444 9204-48 Fax: +49 8444 9204-50 R-S-I Elektrotechnik GmbH & Co. KG Woelkestrasse 11 D-85301 Schweitenkirchen www.rsi-elektrotechnik.de ——————————————— Amtsgericht Ingolstadt – GmbH: HRB 191328 – KG: HRA 170393 Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Michael Sorg, Dipl.-Ing. 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* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days [not found] ` <E403FC4D-C557-4637-B3A1-D2C895621DB6@converseincode.com> @ 2019-05-07 9:47 ` Bas Mevissen 2019-05-07 18:18 ` Behan Webster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Bas Mevissen @ 2019-05-07 9:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Behan Webster; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy On 2019-05-07 07:20, Behan Webster wrote: > > On May 6, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Bas Mevissen <bas@emcodev.nl> wrote: > > On 5/6/19 12:45 PM, Josef Holzmayr wrote: > > I'd actually word it a little bit differently: > > If there is only *ONE* attendee who did not properly do the homework, it > > will have a massive impact an the rest of the group. And that somebody > > will show up unpreparedly is absolutely certain in my opinion. > > With sufficient trainers, one can continue for most and provide some assistance to the one falling behind. > Usually more than one. And this is generally very disruptive to the > class as a whole. > >> As someone who actually got started through the YPDD beginner track (and > >> also often recommends it to new beginners), my opinion is clearly that > >> we either should have it, be it only for a handful of attendees, or > >> offer a *real* replacement, with face to face training. My experience is > >> that this personal thing in the very beginning is an absolutely > >> essential part of many YP/OE careers. > > > > I agree. That is how I started, next to a compressed Linux Foundation Yocto training that was offered just before the event then. > Yes. By me and my colleagues who train for the Linux Foundation. > > So it might be wise to ask LF or get something organised. It would mostly require a room and a sponsor for some small devkit. > We've run the beginner track for the last few years. The discussion is > precisely that the YP event is proposing to not run the beginner track > this year at all. > But why? There appears to be a constant demand. > We're happy to do it again if given the space. Yes, both for LF and YP it are off-the-shelf trainings that do not require much preperation. > Behan -- Bas. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-07 9:47 ` Bas Mevissen @ 2019-05-07 18:18 ` Behan Webster 2019-05-09 7:55 ` Bas Mevissen 2019-05-09 15:38 ` Rudolf J Streif 0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Behan Webster @ 2019-05-07 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bas Mevissen; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2373 bytes --] > On May 7, 2019, at 2:47 AM, Bas Mevissen <abuse@basmevissen.nl> wrote: > > On 2019-05-07 07:20, Behan Webster wrote: > >> > On May 6, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Bas Mevissen <bas@emcodev.nl> wrote: >> > On 5/6/19 12:45 PM, Josef Holzmayr wrote: >> > I'd actually word it a little bit differently: >> > If there is only *ONE* attendee who did not properly do the homework, it >> > will have a massive impact an the rest of the group. And that somebody >> > will show up unpreparedly is absolutely certain in my opinion. >> > With sufficient trainers, one can continue for most and provide some assistance to the one falling behind. > >> Usually more than one. And this is generally very disruptive to the class as a whole. > >> >> As someone who actually got started through the YPDD beginner track (and >> >> also often recommends it to new beginners), my opinion is clearly that >> >> we either should have it, be it only for a handful of attendees, or >> >> offer a *real* replacement, with face to face training. My experience is >> >> that this personal thing in the very beginning is an absolutely >> >> essential part of many YP/OE careers. >> > >> > I agree. That is how I started, next to a compressed Linux Foundation Yocto training that was offered just before the event then. > >> Yes. By me and my colleagues who train for the Linux Foundation. > >> > So it might be wise to ask LF or get something organised. It would mostly require a room and a sponsor for some small devkit. > >> We've run the beginner track for the last few years. The discussion is precisely that the YP event is proposing to not run the beginner track this year at all. > > But why? There appears to be a constant demand. An excellent question. I agree with you. I don’t have an answer however. Not my decision. >> We're happy to do it again if given the space. > > Yes, both for LF and YP it are off-the-shelf trainings that do not require much preperation. Speaking as a course maintainer for LF, keeping the YP course updated is actually a tremendous amount of work (I’m the co-maintainer for the LF YP course). However, the beginner slides tend not to need more than a few hours of updates every 6 months (which again is something I do). Either may appear off-the-shelf, but they aren’t from my perspective. ;) Thanks, Behan [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 10982 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-07 18:18 ` Behan Webster @ 2019-05-09 7:55 ` Bas Mevissen 2019-05-09 14:24 ` akuster 2019-05-09 15:38 ` Rudolf J Streif 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Bas Mevissen @ 2019-05-09 7:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Behan Webster; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy On 2019-05-07 20:18, Behan Webster wrote: (...) > > Yes, both for LF and YP it are off-the-shelf trainings that do not require much preparation. > Speaking as a course maintainer for LF, keeping the YP course updated > is actually a tremendous amount of work (I'm the co-maintainer for the > LF YP course). > However, the beginner slides tend not to need more than a few hours of > updates every 6 months (which again is something I do). > Either may appear off-the-shelf, but they aren't from my perspective. > ;) An additional training date would probably not require much extra I assume. As the training is given already a few times a year. But it is good to hear the training is kept up to date. > Thanks, > Behan -- Bas. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-09 7:55 ` Bas Mevissen @ 2019-05-09 14:24 ` akuster 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: akuster @ 2019-05-09 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bas Mevissen, Behan Webster; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy On 5/9/19 12:55 AM, Bas Mevissen wrote: > On 2019-05-07 20:18, Behan Webster wrote: > > (...) > >> > Yes, both for LF and YP it are off-the-shelf trainings that do not >> require much preparation. > >> Speaking as a course maintainer for LF, keeping the YP course updated >> is actually a tremendous amount of work (I'm the co-maintainer for >> the LF YP course). >> However, the beginner slides tend not to need more than a few hours >> of updates every 6 months (which again is something I do). >> Either may appear off-the-shelf, but they aren't from my perspective. ;) > > An additional training date would probably not require much extra I > assume. As the training is given already a few times a year. > But it is good to hear the training is kept up to date. Its not the material, need or willingness of the community to help that is at issue. Its cost. The more members we have the more we can do. Regards, Armin > >> Thanks, > >> Behan > > -- Bas. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-07 18:18 ` Behan Webster 2019-05-09 7:55 ` Bas Mevissen @ 2019-05-09 15:38 ` Rudolf J Streif 2019-05-09 18:28 ` Behan Webster 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Rudolf J Streif @ 2019-05-09 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Behan Webster, Bas Mevissen; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4610 bytes --] Chiming in here On 5/7/19 11:18 AM, Behan Webster wrote: >> On May 7, 2019, at 2:47 AM, Bas Mevissen <abuse@basmevissen.nl >> <mailto:abuse@basmevissen.nl>> wrote: >> >> On 2019-05-07 07:20, Behan Webster wrote: >> >>> > On May 6, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Bas Mevissen <bas@emcodev.nl >>> <mailto:bas@emcodev.nl>> wrote: >>> > On 5/6/19 12:45 PM, Josef Holzmayr wrote: >>> > I'd actually word it a little bit differently: >>> > If there is only *ONE* attendee who did not properly do the >>> homework, it >>> > will have a massive impact an the rest of the group. And that somebody >>> > will show up unpreparedly is absolutely certain in my opinion. >>> > With sufficient trainers, one can continue for most and provide >>> some assistance to the one falling behind. >> >>> Usually more than one. And this is generally very disruptive to the >>> class as a whole. >> There are always people who are prepared to the T and others who just casually stroll into the class. We all know that as we all went through various stages of schooling. :) No matter what you do, there always will be a glitch. I tried it all from course preparation instructions, shell scripts setting up systems, USB sticks and network drives with downloads and shared state cache, virtual machine images, build systems set up in the cloud, you name it. If it is not somebody who is unprepared it is a technical issue: lack of disk space, network connectivity, corporate computers that do not allow USB sticks,... Instructors just have to deal with it. >>> >> As someone who actually got started through the YPDD beginner >>> track (and >>> >> also often recommends it to new beginners), my opinion is clearly >>> that >>> >> we either should have it, be it only for a handful of attendees, or >>> >> offer a *real* replacement, with face to face training. My >>> experience is >>> >> that this personal thing in the very beginning is an absolutely >>> >> essential part of many YP/OE careers. >>> > >>> > I agree. That is how I started, next to a compressed Linux >>> Foundation Yocto training that was offered just before the event then. >> >>> Yes. By me and my colleagues who train for the Linux Foundation. >> >>> > So it might be wise to ask LF or get something organised. It would >>> mostly require a room and a sponsor for some small devkit. >> >>> We've run the beginner track for the last few years. The discussion >>> is precisely that the YP event is proposing to not run the beginner >>> track this year at all. >> >> But why? There appears to be a constant demand. > > An excellent question. I agree with you. I don’t have an answer > however. Not my decision. > I certainly would advocate to have the beginner track. It's a good way of getting people interested, and eventually excited, for the Yocto Project. Conferences and dev days are an opportunity to do advertising and to grow the community. We cannot do that just by catering to people who are already using YP. We need new folks as we are already running into issues where things have to be dropped because there is nobody who is maintaining it. >>> We're happy to do it again if given the space. >> >> Yes, both for LF and YP it are off-the-shelf trainings that do not >> require much preperation. > > Speaking as a course maintainer for LF, keeping the YP course updated > is actually a tremendous amount of work (I’m the co-maintainer for the > LF YP course). > > However, the beginner slides tend not to need more than a few hours of > updates every 6 months (which again is something I do). > > Either may appear off-the-shelf, but they aren’t from my perspective. ;) I can wholeheartedly second that. I developed the original YP class of the LF and taught it many times and have since developed my own class material teaching classes. While the basic concept of course remains the same it is the little details that change. With every new version of the YP a course maintainer has to go through every single exercise and example in the course material and try it out again to see if it still works. And quite frankly, sometimes it is rather silly things that have changed and break something. In particular for a beginner class lasting one day only, every single disruption sets the class back and there is no opportunity to recover from it. The day is already packed just to cover the core concepts. Cheers, Rudi > > Thanks, > > Behan > -- ----- Rudolf J Streif CEO/CTO ibeeto +1.855.442.3396 x700 [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 17566 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-09 15:38 ` Rudolf J Streif @ 2019-05-09 18:28 ` Behan Webster 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Behan Webster @ 2019-05-09 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rudolf J Streif; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 5178 bytes --] > On May 9, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Rudolf J Streif <rudolf.streif@ibeeto.com> wrote: > > Chiming in here > > On 5/7/19 11:18 AM, Behan Webster wrote: >>> On May 7, 2019, at 2:47 AM, Bas Mevissen <abuse@basmevissen.nl <mailto:abuse@basmevissen.nl>> wrote: >>> >>> On 2019-05-07 07:20, Behan Webster wrote: >>> >>>> > On May 6, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Bas Mevissen <bas@emcodev.nl <mailto:bas@emcodev.nl>> wrote: >>>> > On 5/6/19 12:45 PM, Josef Holzmayr wrote: >>>> > I'd actually word it a little bit differently: >>>> > If there is only *ONE* attendee who did not properly do the homework, it >>>> > will have a massive impact an the rest of the group. And that somebody >>>> > will show up unpreparedly is absolutely certain in my opinion. >>>> > With sufficient trainers, one can continue for most and provide some assistance to the one falling behind. >>> >>>> Usually more than one. And this is generally very disruptive to the class as a whole. >>> > There are always people who are prepared to the T and others who just casually stroll into the class. We all know that as we all went through various stages of schooling. :) No matter what you do, there always will be a glitch. I tried it all from course preparation instructions, shell scripts setting up systems, USB sticks and network drives with downloads and shared state cache, virtual machine images, build systems set up in the cloud, you name it. If it is not somebody who is unprepared it is a technical issue: lack of disk space, network connectivity, corporate computers that do not allow USB sticks,... Instructors just have to deal with it. And if you have a multiple day class, you can absorb such disruption. But for single day events you basically have to make sure there is little to no wiggle room for failure. And for individual talks, there is almost no room for disruption at all during labs. Assuming pre-class work essentially means there will be massive disruption on the day because many/most/all the attendees won’t have done it. This is why we’ve largely done lecture only beginner talks at YPDD to make sure we cover as much material as we can and limit the possibility of in class issues. >>>> >> As someone who actually got started through the YPDD beginner track (and >>>> >> also often recommends it to new beginners), my opinion is clearly that >>>> >> we either should have it, be it only for a handful of attendees, or >>>> >> offer a *real* replacement, with face to face training. My experience is >>>> >> that this personal thing in the very beginning is an absolutely >>>> >> essential part of many YP/OE careers. >>>> > >>>> > I agree. That is how I started, next to a compressed Linux Foundation Yocto training that was offered just before the event then. >>> >>>> Yes. By me and my colleagues who train for the Linux Foundation. >>> >>>> > So it might be wise to ask LF or get something organised. It would mostly require a room and a sponsor for some small devkit. >>> >>>> We've run the beginner track for the last few years. The discussion is precisely that the YP event is proposing to not run the beginner track this year at all. >>> >>> But why? There appears to be a constant demand. >> >> An excellent question. I agree with you. I don’t have an answer however. Not my decision. >> > I certainly would advocate to have the beginner track. It's a good way of getting people interested, and eventually excited, for the Yocto Project. Conferences and dev days are an opportunity to do advertising and to grow the community. We cannot do that just by catering to people who are already using YP. We need new folks as we are already running into issues where things have to be dropped because there is nobody who is maintaining it. > All agreed. >>>> We're happy to do it again if given the space. >>> >>> Yes, both for LF and YP it are off-the-shelf trainings that do not require much preperation. >> >> Speaking as a course maintainer for LF, keeping the YP course updated is actually a tremendous amount of work (I’m the co-maintainer for the LF YP course). >> >> However, the beginner slides tend not to need more than a few hours of updates every 6 months (which again is something I do). >> >> Either may appear off-the-shelf, but they aren’t from my perspective. ;) > I can wholeheartedly second that. I developed the original YP class of the LF and taught it many times and have since developed my own class material teaching classes. > And you did a great job! > While the basic concept of course remains the same it is the little details that change. With every new version of the YP a course maintainer has to go through every single exercise and example in the course material and try it out again to see if it still works. And quite frankly, sometimes it is rather silly things that have changed and break something. > So very true. > In particular for a beginner class lasting one day only, every single disruption sets the class back and there is no opportunity to recover from it. The day is already packed just to cover the core concepts. > Precisely. Behan [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 18723 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-03 18:01 Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days Volosincu, Andreea S 2019-05-03 18:07 ` [Yocto-Advocacy] " akuster @ 2019-05-04 11:50 ` JH 2019-05-06 17:34 ` Volosincu, Andreea S [not found] ` <954A193F-DC16-4429-BAAD-EE78327C048E@converseincode.com> ` (2 subsequent siblings) 4 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: JH @ 2019-05-04 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Volosincu, Andreea S; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy Any planning to have a conference to Melbourne Australia in the near future? I am keen to help. Thank you. Kind regards, - jupiter On 5/4/19, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded > Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. > > Here is a snapshot of our schedule: > > ELC NA - Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San > Diego, CA > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We'll see you on the show > floor > > ELC NA Dev Day - Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) > Level: Intermediate - Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material > (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites > Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light > appetizers > > ELCE - Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We'll see you on the show floor > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit - Dates & Times: > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > Set-up: > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks > Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom > seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > Includes: > Morning Break for 2 days > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day > The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the > community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how > that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to > Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans > and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > Thanks! > Andreea > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-04 11:50 ` JH @ 2019-05-06 17:34 ` Volosincu, Andreea S 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Volosincu, Andreea S @ 2019-05-06 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: JH; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy Hi Jupiter, Melbourne Australia is not in the plan for the near future, but you could help remotely as well. For instance, have you checked out the first live streaming that we had? Developers worldwide could help us with this, showing other developers how they work with the project. Here it is: https://www.twitch.tv/yocto_project/videos. Please let me know what you think. Thanks! Andreea -----Original Message----- From: JH [mailto:jupiter.hce@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:50 AM To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> Cc: yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> Subject: Re: [yocto] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days Any planning to have a conference to Melbourne Australia in the near future? I am keen to help. Thank you. Kind regards, - jupiter On 5/4/19, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming > Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. > > Here is a snapshot of our schedule: > > ELC NA - Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, > San Diego, CA > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We'll see you on the > show floor > > ELC NA Dev Day - Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) > Level: Intermediate - Advanced. Participants will receive beginner > material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites > Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with > light appetizers > > ELCE - Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We'll see you on the show > floor > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit - Dates & Times: > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > Set-up: > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project > talks Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 > & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > Includes: > Morning Break for 2 days > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day The goal for the > second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. > We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and > those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea > Volosincu and Philip Balister. > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over > plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > Thanks! > Andreea > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days [not found] ` <954A193F-DC16-4429-BAAD-EE78327C048E@converseincode.com> @ 2019-05-06 10:55 ` Josef Holzmayr 2019-05-06 14:14 ` Ta, Lieu 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Josef Holzmayr @ 2019-05-06 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Behan Webster; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy Howdy! On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 05:07:30PM -0700, Behan Webster wrote: > If community building is the plan please don’t exclude OpenEmbedded from the name nor the material (in other words, acknowledging which parts are from OpenEmbedded). Part of the community building aspect is going to have to be acknowledging that Yocto Project is an umbrella project made up of other projects, and then celebrating those projects. > > The original idea I put forward was to have a joint OpenEmbedded/Yocto project 2-day event to replace the separate ypdd and OEDEM, not merely a larger Yocto project event. > > I am personally already seeing a negative reaction to these plans from others, which is IMHO sadly contributing to destroying community instead of building it. > > I, personally, would like nothing more than a simpler way to describe the whole thing. However as it stands we essentially have 2 camps that continue to separate instead of coming together. Let’s try and fix that bit first. Completely agreed. I've personally never understood the (until now, mostly) friendly mutual heckling, but its a thing we have to cope with and sort out. The sooner, the better. > And I surely hope that things other than beer and wine are made available. There are actually a lot of attendees who don’t drink from what I can tell, which was made extremely evident to me in Edinburgh where the non alcoholic options kept on running out and how much alcohol was left at the end of the night. Wine and beer isn’t a draw for everyone anymore. Another point I'm just stepping up to fully support. We can run out of booze - its better if we don't but hey, we absolutely must not run out of water and coffee. Greetz PS: Yes, its actually *ME* writing that. > > Thanks, > > Behan > > Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone > > > On May 3, 2019, at 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. > > > > Here is a snapshot of our schedule: > > > > ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > > > ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) > > Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites > > Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers > > > > ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: > > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > > Set-up: > > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks > > Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > > Includes: > > Morning Break for 2 days > > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day > > The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. > > > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > yocto-advocacy mailing list > > yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org > > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy > -- > _______________________________________________ > yocto-advocacy mailing list > yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy -- ——————————————— Josef Holzmayr Software Developer Embedded Systems Tel: +49 8444 9204-48 Fax: +49 8444 9204-50 R-S-I Elektrotechnik GmbH & Co. KG Woelkestrasse 11 D-85301 Schweitenkirchen www.rsi-elektrotechnik.de ——————————————— Amtsgericht Ingolstadt – GmbH: HRB 191328 – KG: HRA 170393 Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Michael Sorg, Dipl.-Ing. Franz Sorg Ust-IdNr: DE 128592548 _____________________________________________________________ Amtsgericht Ingolstadt - GmbH: HRB 191328 - KG: HRA 170363 Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Michael Sorg, Dipl.-Ing. Franz Sorg USt-IdNr.: DE 128592548 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days [not found] ` <954A193F-DC16-4429-BAAD-EE78327C048E@converseincode.com> 2019-05-06 10:55 ` [Yocto-Advocacy] " Josef Holzmayr @ 2019-05-06 14:14 ` Ta, Lieu 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Ta, Lieu @ 2019-05-06 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Behan Webster, Volosincu, Andreea S Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy, yocto-ab [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 5262 bytes --] Andreea, Philip and I had a pre-planning call and we all agreed that we want to solicit the community for ideas and then finalizing them at an Advocacy meeting. We are doing something different this year. If you do not want to send ideas to this wide distribution, please don’t hesitate to send them directly to Andreea (Andreea.Volosincu@windriver.com<mailto:Andreea.Volosincu@windriver.com>). It takes a lot of hard work to plan, promote, and execute these events, especially when the work is all on volunteering basis. If you can help with the planning please also send Andreea a note. Again, I would like to remind everyone that the CALL to ACTION is to submit IDEAS for the upcoming events. My responses to the criticisms are inline below. Regards, Lieu Ta Advisory Board Chair, Yocto Project From: yocto-advocacy-bounces@yoctoproject.org <yocto-advocacy-bounces@yoctoproject.org> On Behalf Of Behan Webster Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2019 5:08 PM To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> Cc: Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days If community building is the plan please don’t exclude OpenEmbedded from the name nor the material (in other words, acknowledging which parts are from OpenEmbedded). Part of the community building aspect is going to have to be acknowledging that Yocto Project is an umbrella project made up of other projects, and then celebrating those projects. [Ta, Lieu] Noted The original idea I put forward was to have a joint OpenEmbedded/Yocto project 2-day event to replace the separate ypdd and OEDEM, not merely a larger Yocto project event. I am personally already seeing a negative reaction to these plans from others, which is IMHO sadly contributing to destroying community instead of building it. [Ta, Lieu] I am personally seeing positive reaction that we’re promoting Yocto Project and Open Embedded.. We can’t please everyone. If we want to build together, we need to stand together. Nitpicking and negativity would only crack the foundation we’re building on. I, personally, would like nothing more than a simpler way to describe the whole thing. However as it stands we essentially have 2 camps that continue to separate instead of coming together. Let’s try and fix that bit first. [Ta, Lieu] We are two camps if we continue to define ourselves so. And I surely hope that things other than beer and wine are made available. There are actually a lot of attendees who don’t drink from what I can tell, which was made extremely evident to me in Edinburgh where the non alcoholic options kept on running out and how much alcohol was left at the end of the night. Wine and beer isn’t a draw for everyone anymore. [Ta, Lieu] While I agree that the wine was not a big winner, beers were excessively appreciated. The wines were traded in for beers by popular demands. The beers were practically gone when I left. However, the idea of adding more soft drinks to the mix, is a good one. Thanks, Behan Sent from my Mobile Computer which is also a phone On May 3, 2019, at 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com<mailto:andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>> wrote: Greetings, Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. Here is a snapshot of our schedule: ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM Set-up: Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) Includes: Morning Break for 2 days Buffet Lunch for 2 days Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. Thanks! Andreea Yocto Project Advocacy Lead -- _______________________________________________ yocto-advocacy mailing list yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org<mailto:yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto-advocacy [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 12050 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-03 18:01 Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days Volosincu, Andreea S ` (2 preceding siblings ...) [not found] ` <954A193F-DC16-4429-BAAD-EE78327C048E@converseincode.com> @ 2019-05-06 15:06 ` Joshua Watt 2019-05-06 15:30 ` Bas Mevissen ` (2 more replies) 2019-05-14 11:31 ` Robert Berger 4 siblings, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Joshua Watt @ 2019-05-06 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Volosincu, Andreea S, yocto-advocacy, Yocto list discussion [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2095 bytes --] On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 18:01 +0000, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: > Greetings, > > > > Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming > Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. > > > > Here is a snapshot of our schedule: > > > > ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, > San Diego, CA > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the > show floor > > > > ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) > > Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner > material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites > > Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with > light appetizers Is there any registration cost for this event, and how does one register? > > ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, > France > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show > floor > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > Set-up: > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project > talks > Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & > Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > Includes: > Morning Break for 2 days > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day > > The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the > community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas > on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your > ideas to Andreea Volosincu and > Philip Balister. > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over > plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > Thanks! > Andreea > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > > > -- Joshua Watt <JPEWhacker@gmail.com> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 6057 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-06 15:06 ` Joshua Watt @ 2019-05-06 15:30 ` Bas Mevissen 2019-05-06 16:21 ` akuster 2019-05-06 17:42 ` Volosincu, Andreea S 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Bas Mevissen @ 2019-05-06 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: yocto, Joshua Watt On 5/6/19 5:06 PM, Joshua Watt wrote: > On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 18:01 +0000, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming >> Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. >> >> Here is a snapshot of our schedule: >> >> ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, >> San Diego, CA >> >> Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the >> show floor >> >> ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM >> >> Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) >> >> Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner >> material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites >> >> Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with >> light appetizers >> > > Is there any registration cost for this event, and how does one register? > ELC and ELCE are Linux Foundation organised events. Check their website for the pricing. >> ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France >> >> Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor >> >> ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: >> >> Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM >> >> November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM >> >> Set-up: >> >> Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks >> >> Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & >> Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) >> >> Includes: >> >> Morning Break for 2 days >> >> Buffet Lunch for 2 days >> >> Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day >> >> The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the >> community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas >> on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your >> ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. >> >> We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over >> plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Andreea >> >> Yocto Project Advocacy Lead >> > -- > > Joshua Watt <JPEWhacker@gmail.com <mailto:JPEWhacker@gmail.com>> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-06 15:06 ` Joshua Watt 2019-05-06 15:30 ` Bas Mevissen @ 2019-05-06 16:21 ` akuster 2019-05-06 17:05 ` Greg Wilson-Lindberg 2019-05-06 17:42 ` Volosincu, Andreea S 2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: akuster @ 2019-05-06 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joshua Watt, Volosincu, Andreea S, yocto-advocacy, Yocto list discussion [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2462 bytes --] On 5/6/19 8:06 AM, Joshua Watt wrote: > On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 18:01 +0000, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> >> >> Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming >> Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. >> >> >> >> Here is a snapshot of our schedule: >> >> >> >> ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, >> San Diego, CA >> >> Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the >> show floor >> >> >> >> ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM >> >> Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) >> >> Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner >> material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites >> >> Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with >> light appetizers >> > > Is there any registration cost for this event, and how does one register? For the training portion there normally has been. I am sure the details will be provided once things are setup. - armin > >> >> >> ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France >> >> Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor >> >> >> >> ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: >> >> Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM >> >> November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM >> >> Set-up: >> >> Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks >> >> Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & >> Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) >> >> Includes: >> >> Morning Break for 2 days >> >> Buffet Lunch for 2 days >> >> Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day >> >> The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the >> community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas >> on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your >> ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. >> >> >> >> We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over >> plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Andreea >> >> Yocto Project Advocacy Lead >> > -- > Joshua Watt <JPEWhacker@gmail.com <mailto:JPEWhacker@gmail.com>> > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 7217 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-06 16:21 ` akuster @ 2019-05-06 17:05 ` Greg Wilson-Lindberg 2019-05-06 17:29 ` Volosincu, Andreea S 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Greg Wilson-Lindberg @ 2019-05-06 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: akuster, Joshua Watt, Volosincu, Andreea S, yocto-advocacy, Yocto list discussion I just visited the Embedded Linux Conference site and the Dev day on the 20th is not listed, does anyone know how to get more information on it. I'm very interested in attending along with one of my coworkers. Regards, Greg Wilson-Lindberg Principal Firmware Engineer | Sakura Finetek USA, Inc. From: yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org [mailto:yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of akuster Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 09:22 AM To: Joshua Watt <jpewhacker@gmail.com>; Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> Subject: Re: [yocto] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days On 5/6/19 8:06 AM, Joshua Watt wrote: On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 18:01 +0000, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: Greetings, Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. Here is a snapshot of our schedule: ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers Is there any registration cost for this event, and how does one register? For the training portion there normally has been. I am sure the details will be provided once things are setup. - armin ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM Set-up: Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) Includes: Morning Break for 2 days Buffet Lunch for 2 days Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. Thanks! Andreea Yocto Project Advocacy Lead -- Joshua Watt <JPEWhacker@gmail.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-06 17:05 ` Greg Wilson-Lindberg @ 2019-05-06 17:29 ` Volosincu, Andreea S 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Volosincu, Andreea S @ 2019-05-06 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Greg Wilson-Lindberg, akuster, Joshua Watt, yocto-advocacy, Yocto list discussion Hi Greg, Linux Foundation is adding the info right now. Please check back in a couple of days. The Dev Day will be listed with the co-located events and you will be able to add it to your ELC registration. Thanks! Andreea -----Original Message----- From: Greg Wilson-Lindberg [mailto:GWilson@sakuraus.com] Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 10:06 AM To: akuster <akuster@mvista.com>; Joshua Watt <jpewhacker@gmail.com>; Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> Subject: RE: [yocto] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days I just visited the Embedded Linux Conference site and the Dev day on the 20th is not listed, does anyone know how to get more information on it. I'm very interested in attending along with one of my coworkers. Regards, Greg Wilson-Lindberg Principal Firmware Engineer | Sakura Finetek USA, Inc. From: yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org [mailto:yocto-bounces@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of akuster Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 09:22 AM To: Joshua Watt <jpewhacker@gmail.com>; Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> Subject: Re: [yocto] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days On 5/6/19 8:06 AM, Joshua Watt wrote: On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 18:01 +0000, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: Greetings, Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. Here is a snapshot of our schedule: ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers Is there any registration cost for this event, and how does one register? For the training portion there normally has been. I am sure the details will be provided once things are setup. - armin ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM Set-up: Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) Includes: Morning Break for 2 days Buffet Lunch for 2 days Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. Thanks! Andreea Yocto Project Advocacy Lead -- Joshua Watt <JPEWhacker@gmail.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-06 15:06 ` Joshua Watt 2019-05-06 15:30 ` Bas Mevissen 2019-05-06 16:21 ` akuster @ 2019-05-06 17:42 ` Volosincu, Andreea S 2019-05-13 20:09 ` Joshua Watt 2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Volosincu, Andreea S @ 2019-05-06 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joshua Watt, yocto-advocacy, Yocto list discussion [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2576 bytes --] Hi Joshua, The event will be listed on the co-located events page and there will be a cost associated with it. Please check this page in a couple of days - https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/elc-north-america-2019/program/co-located-events/ You will be able to add this to your ELC registration. Thanks! Andreea From: Joshua Watt [mailto:jpewhacker@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 8:07 AM To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> Subject: Re: [yocto] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 18:01 +0000, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: Greetings, Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. Here is a snapshot of our schedule: ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers Is there any registration cost for this event, and how does one register? ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM Set-up: Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) Includes: Morning Break for 2 days Buffet Lunch for 2 days Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. Thanks! Andreea Yocto Project Advocacy Lead -- Joshua Watt <JPEWhacker@gmail.com<mailto:JPEWhacker@gmail.com>> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 8668 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-06 17:42 ` Volosincu, Andreea S @ 2019-05-13 20:09 ` Joshua Watt 2019-05-14 0:42 ` akuster 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Joshua Watt @ 2019-05-13 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Volosincu, Andreea S; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 12:43 PM Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: > > Hi Joshua, > > > > The event will be listed on the co-located events page and there will be a cost associated with it. Please check this page in a couple of days - https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/elc-north-america-2019/program/co-located-events/ > > > > You will be able to add this to your ELC registration. Thanks. I'm hopefully not being too annoying, but us there an ETA on when the registration will be open? The early registration deadline for the ELC is May 20th, which is basically 5 working days, and I will need a few days to push the paperwork though, so it's getting a little close for my comfort :) If it isn't going to be available soon, I do have a few questions: 1. Is it possible to register for the Dev Day after you have registered for the ELC? 2. Is there a rough (preferably upper limit) estimate for the cost? > > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > > > From: Joshua Watt [mailto:jpewhacker@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 8:07 AM > To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> > Subject: Re: [yocto] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days > > > > On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 18:01 +0000, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. > > > > Here is a snapshot of our schedule: > > > > ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > > > ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) > > Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites > > Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers > > > > Is there any registration cost for this event, and how does one register? > > > > > > > > ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: > > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > > Set-up: > > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks > > Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > > Includes: > > Morning Break for 2 days > > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day > > > > The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. > > > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > > -- > > Joshua Watt <JPEWhacker@gmail.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-13 20:09 ` Joshua Watt @ 2019-05-14 0:42 ` akuster 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: akuster @ 2019-05-14 0:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joshua Watt, Volosincu, Andreea S; +Cc: Yocto list discussion, yocto-advocacy On 5/13/19 1:09 PM, Joshua Watt wrote: > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 12:43 PM Volosincu, Andreea S > <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com> wrote: >> Hi Joshua, >> >> >> >> The event will be listed on the co-located events page and there will be a cost associated with it. Please check this page in a couple of days - https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/elc-north-america-2019/program/co-located-events/ >> >> >> >> You will be able to add this to your ELC registration. > Thanks. I'm hopefully not being too annoying, but us there an ETA on > when the registration will be open? The early registration deadline > for the ELC is May 20th, which is basically 5 working days, and I will > need a few days to push the paperwork though, so it's getting a little > close for my comfort :) Add on events can be added later or purchased on-site. I have done in the past so I would reg for early bird now. > > If it isn't going to be available soon, I do have a few questions: > 1. Is it possible to register for the Dev Day after you have > registered for the ELC? > 2. Is there a rough (preferably upper limit) estimate for the cost? Good question. This is weird year for things so I can't comment on the new norm. - Armin > > >> >> Thanks! >> >> Andreea >> >> >> >> From: Joshua Watt [mailto:jpewhacker@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 8:07 AM >> To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosincu@windriver.com>; yocto-advocacy@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org> >> Subject: Re: [yocto] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days >> >> >> >> On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 18:01 +0000, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> >> >> Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. >> >> >> >> Here is a snapshot of our schedule: >> >> >> >> ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA >> >> Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor >> >> >> >> ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM >> >> Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people) >> >> Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material (videos and presentations) as pre-requisites >> >> Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers >> >> >> >> Is there any registration cost for this event, and how does one register? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France >> >> Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor >> >> >> >> ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: >> >> Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM >> >> November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM >> >> Set-up: >> >> Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks >> >> Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) >> >> Includes: >> >> Morning Break for 2 days >> >> Buffet Lunch for 2 days >> >> Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day >> >> >> >> The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. >> >> >> >> We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Andreea >> >> Yocto Project Advocacy Lead >> >> -- >> >> Joshua Watt <JPEWhacker@gmail.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days 2019-05-03 18:01 Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer Days Volosincu, Andreea S ` (3 preceding siblings ...) 2019-05-06 15:06 ` Joshua Watt @ 2019-05-14 11:31 ` Robert Berger 4 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Robert Berger @ 2019-05-14 11:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Volosincu, Andreea S, yocto-advocacy, Yocto list discussion Hi, I think the discussion went a bit off track, which happens on mailing lists after x replies;) Please see my comments in-line. On 03.05.19 21:01, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote: > > ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France > > Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor > > ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times: > > Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM > > November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM > As you might know I am willing to help teaching at the EU event. > Set-up: > > Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks > > Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & > Classroom seating for 40 (for maintainers and users) > > Includes: > > Morning Break for 2 days > > Buffet Lunch for 2 days > > Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day > > The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the > community together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on > how that day and those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas > to Andreea Volosincu and Philip Balister. 1) I propose for the YP people to borrow some of their marketing people to OE ;) really I am serious about it. (I already proposed that on the last OE Dev day, but no idea what happened). There are quite a few cool things going on and they are not known to the public. 2) What kind of classes? 2.1) Basic classes 2.2) Intermediate classes 2.3) Advanced classes It all depends on interest from trainees and from trainers and what we would like to present in general those 2 days. Should it be just some veterans coming together (well the usual suspects) discussing things and drinking beer? (Josef will only get coffee and water) ... or do we want to bring in new people/beginners and give them some overview/initial help with the "monster" as well? Don't get me wrong, I am delivering lots of YP/OE trainings and there is definitely a very high demand for this, but is that what we want to be covered in the 2 days as well? 3) A different approach might be for people to "bring their own YP/OE problem" and we'll try to sort it out on the spot (if possible) or at least we'll try to propose some guidance how problems could be solved. That might be a quite interesting mix of simple and advanced problems. Having all the "brains" of the project(s) together in one place might help to see what problems people actually have. Examples I came across: 3.1) People are told to use the YP in their project because the board manufacturer made a BSP with it, but they just need a headless system. 3.1.1) They start to remove stuff from the shiny Qt enabled demo of the board manufacturer - and fail. 3.2) People build some binaries with the SDK provided by the board manufacturer and manually copy them over to the rootfs - and can never reproduce again what goes in the field. - even the kernel and the boot loader are "maintained" outside of the YP/OE sometimes. 3.3) People build a complete image and upload it to the target with every little code change - instead of a different "developer" and "test/release" workflow. 3.4) License compliance - what this really exists? 3.5) Static libs (with autotools) (I made a speech about it last time at the YP dev day) 3.6) SW update vs. package management - sooner or later this is needed 3.7) Reproduce-able builds - are they? 3.8) Containers - deliver app(s) in containers ... Now you know why I have so many gray/white hair and why I am traveling all the time delivering trainings ;) > > We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over > plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. > > Thanks! > > Andreea > > Yocto Project Advocacy Lead > > Regards, Robert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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