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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Jimmy Rubin <jimmy.rubin@stericsson.com>,
	Dan Johansson <dan.johansson@stericsson.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] MCDE: Add configuration registers
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:24:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimXBf0Qii2H7ewar+x2shFifhxcwXosekiV1hiz@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101115145918.GD24194@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 15:59, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 03:25:54PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Friday 12 November 2010, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> > It is a bad idea to describe device registers using C structures, and
>> > especially enums.
>> >
>> > The only thing C guarantees about structure layout is that the elements
>> > are arranged in the same order which you specify them in your definition.
>> > It doesn't make any guarantees about placement of those elements within
>> > the structure.
>>
>> Right, I got carried away when seeing the macro overload. My example
>> would work on a given architecture since the ABI is not changing, but
>> we should of course not advocate nonportable code.
>
> That is a mistake.  You can't rely on architectures not changing their
> ABIs.  See ARM as an example where an ABI change has already happened.
>
> We actually have two ABIs at present - one ('native ARM') where enums
> are sized according to the size of their values, and the Linux one
> where we guarantee that enums are always 'int'.

JFYI, on ppc64 there are 64-bit enum values, which sparse complains about.
But gcc handles them fine.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] MCDE: Add configuration registers
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:24:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimXBf0Qii2H7ewar+x2shFifhxcwXosekiV1hiz@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101115145918.GD24194@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 15:59, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 03:25:54PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Friday 12 November 2010, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> > It is a bad idea to describe device registers using C structures, and
>> > especially enums.
>> >
>> > The only thing C guarantees about structure layout is that the elements
>> > are arranged in the same order which you specify them in your definition.
>> > It doesn't make any guarantees about placement of those elements within
>> > the structure.
>>
>> Right, I got carried away when seeing the macro overload. My example
>> would work on a given architecture since the ABI is not changing, but
>> we should of course not advocate nonportable code.
>
> That is a mistake.  You can't rely on architectures not changing their
> ABIs.  See ARM as an example where an ABI change has already happened.
>
> We actually have two ABIs at present - one ('native ARM') where enums
> are sized according to the size of their values, and the Linux one
> where we guarantee that enums are always 'int'.

JFYI, on ppc64 there are 64-bit enum values, which sparse complains about.
But gcc handles them fine.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: geert@linux-m68k.org (Geert Uytterhoeven)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 02/10] MCDE: Add configuration registers
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:24:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimXBf0Qii2H7ewar+x2shFifhxcwXosekiV1hiz@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101115145918.GD24194@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 15:59, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 03:25:54PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Friday 12 November 2010, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> > It is a bad idea to describe device registers using C structures, and
>> > especially enums.
>> >
>> > The only thing C guarantees about structure layout is that the elements
>> > are arranged in the same order which you specify them in your definition.
>> > It doesn't make any guarantees about placement of those elements within
>> > the structure.
>>
>> Right, I got carried away when seeing the macro overload. My example
>> would work on a given architecture since the ABI is not changing, but
>> we should of course not advocate nonportable code.
>
> That is a mistake. ?You can't rely on architectures not changing their
> ABIs. ?See ARM as an example where an ABI change has already happened.
>
> We actually have two ABIs at present - one ('native ARM') where enums
> are sized according to the size of their values, and the Linux one
> where we guarantee that enums are always 'int'.

JFYI, on ppc64 there are 64-bit enum values, which sparse complains about.
But gcc handles them fine.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert at linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ?? -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-15 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-10 12:04 [PATCH 00/10] MCDE: Add frame buffer device driver Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04 ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04 ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04 ` [PATCH 01/10] MCDE: Add hardware abstraction layer Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04   ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04   ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04   ` [PATCH 02/10] MCDE: Add configuration registers Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04     ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04     ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04     ` [PATCH 03/10] MCDE: Add pixel processing registers Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04       ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04       ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04       ` [PATCH 04/10] MCDE: Add formatter registers Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04         ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04         ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04         ` [PATCH 05/10] MCDE: Add dsi link registers Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04           ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04           ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04           ` [PATCH 06/10] MCDE: Add generic display Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04             ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04             ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04             ` [PATCH 07/10] MCDE: Add display subsystem framework Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04               ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04               ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04               ` [PATCH 08/10] MCDE: Add frame buffer device Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04                 ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04                 ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04                 ` [PATCH 09/10] MCDE: Add build files and bus Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04                   ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04                   ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04                   ` [PATCH 10/10] ux500: MCDE: Add platform specific data Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04                     ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-10 12:04                     ` Jimmy Rubin
2010-11-12 16:03                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 16:03                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 16:03                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-25 11:20                       ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-25 11:20                         ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-12 16:23                   ` [PATCH 09/10] MCDE: Add build files and bus Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 16:23                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 16:23                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 16:29                 ` [PATCH 08/10] MCDE: Add frame buffer device Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 16:29                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 16:29                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-25 11:52                   ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-25 11:52                     ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-12 16:38               ` [PATCH 07/10] MCDE: Add display subsystem framework Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 16:38                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 16:38                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-25  7:16                 ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-25  7:16                   ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-12 15:46       ` [PATCH 03/10] MCDE: Add pixel processing registers Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 15:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 15:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 15:14     ` [PATCH 02/10] MCDE: Add configuration registers Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 15:14       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 15:14       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 15:34       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-12 15:34         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-12 15:34         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-15 14:25         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-15 14:25           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-15 14:25           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-15 14:59           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-15 14:59             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-15 14:59             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-11-15 18:24             ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2010-11-15 18:24               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-11-15 18:24               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-11-25 11:30       ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-25 11:30         ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-25 16:21         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-25 16:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-10 17:14   ` [PATCH 01/10] MCDE: Add hardware abstraction layer Joe Perches
2010-11-10 17:14     ` Joe Perches
2010-11-10 17:14     ` Joe Perches
2010-11-15  9:52     ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-15  9:52       ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-15  9:52       ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-15 16:30       ` Joe Perches
2010-11-15 16:30         ` Joe Perches
2010-11-15 16:30         ` Joe Perches
2010-11-12 15:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 15:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-12 15:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 15:29     ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-16 15:29       ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-16 15:29       ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-16 16:12       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 16:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 16:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 16:16         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 16:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 16:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-16 19:46       ` Joe Perches
2010-11-16 19:46         ` Joe Perches
2010-11-16 19:46         ` Joe Perches
2010-11-17  9:55         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-17  9:55           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-17  9:55           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-17 16:01           ` Joe Perches
2010-11-17 16:01             ` Joe Perches
2010-11-17 16:01             ` Joe Perches
2010-11-10 14:42 ` [PATCH 00/10] MCDE: Add frame buffer device driver Alex Deucher
2010-11-10 14:42   ` Alex Deucher
2010-11-10 14:42   ` Alex Deucher
2010-11-12 13:18   ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-12 13:18     ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-12 13:18     ` Jimmy RUBIN
2010-11-12 15:52     ` Alex Deucher
2010-11-12 15:52       ` Alex Deucher
2010-11-12 15:52       ` Alex Deucher
2010-11-12 16:46       ` Marcus LORENTZON
2010-11-12 16:46         ` Marcus LORENTZON
2010-11-12 16:46         ` Marcus LORENTZON
2010-11-12 17:22         ` Alex Deucher
2010-11-12 17:22           ` Alex Deucher
2010-11-12 17:22           ` Alex Deucher
2010-11-15 11:05           ` Michel Dänzer
2010-11-15 11:05             ` Michel Dänzer
2010-11-15 11:05             ` Michel Dänzer
2010-11-13 11:54         ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-13 11:54           ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-13 11:54           ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-13 17:26           ` Marcus LORENTZON
2010-11-13 17:26             ` Marcus LORENTZON
2010-11-13 17:26             ` Marcus LORENTZON
2010-11-13 17:57             ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-13 17:57               ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-13 17:57               ` Hans Verkuil

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