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From: "Bedia, Vaibhav" <vaibhav.bedia@ti.com>
To: Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>
Cc: "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"paul@pwsan.com" <paul@pwsan.com>,
	"Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com>,
	"tony@atomide.com" <tony@atomide.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 11/15] ARM: OMAP: timer: Interchange clksrc and clkevt for AM33XX
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 13:48:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B5906170F1614E41A8A28DE3B8D121433EBFEB57@DBDE01.ent.ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5095165E.10403@deeprootsystems.com>

On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 18:34:30, Kevin Hilman wrote:
[...]
> >>
> >> Doesn't this also mean that you won't get timer wakeups
> >> in idle?  Or are you keeping the domain where the clockevent is
> >> on during idle?
> >>
> >
> > The lowest idle state that we are targeting will have MPU powered
> > off with external memory in self-refresh mode. Peripheral domain
> > with the clockevent will be kept on.
> 
> Is this a limitation of the hardware?  or the software?
> 

Well, making the lowest idle state same as the suspend state will require
us to involve WKUP_M3 in the idle path and wakeup sources get limited to
the IPs in the WKUP domain alone. There's no IO daisy chaining in AM33XX
so that's one big difference compared to OMAP. 

The other potential problem is that the IPC mechanism that we have
uses interrupts. Assuming that the lowest idle state, say Cx, is the same
as the suspend state, we'll need to communicate with the WKUP_M3 using
interrupts once we decide to enter Cx. I am not sure if we can do something
in the cpuidle implementation to work around the "interrupt for idle"
problem. We could probably not wait for an ACK when we want to enter Cx,
but the problem of limited wakeup sources remains. If we let the various
drivers block the entry to Cx, since almost all the IPs are in the
peripheral domain a system which uses anything other than UART and Timer
in WKUP domain will probably never be able enter Cx.

Regards,
Vaibhav

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: vaibhav.bedia@ti.com (Bedia, Vaibhav)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 11/15] ARM: OMAP: timer: Interchange clksrc and clkevt for AM33XX
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 13:48:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B5906170F1614E41A8A28DE3B8D121433EBFEB57@DBDE01.ent.ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5095165E.10403@deeprootsystems.com>

On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 18:34:30, Kevin Hilman wrote:
[...]
> >>
> >> Doesn't this also mean that you won't get timer wakeups
> >> in idle?  Or are you keeping the domain where the clockevent is
> >> on during idle?
> >>
> >
> > The lowest idle state that we are targeting will have MPU powered
> > off with external memory in self-refresh mode. Peripheral domain
> > with the clockevent will be kept on.
> 
> Is this a limitation of the hardware?  or the software?
> 

Well, making the lowest idle state same as the suspend state will require
us to involve WKUP_M3 in the idle path and wakeup sources get limited to
the IPs in the WKUP domain alone. There's no IO daisy chaining in AM33XX
so that's one big difference compared to OMAP. 

The other potential problem is that the IPC mechanism that we have
uses interrupts. Assuming that the lowest idle state, say Cx, is the same
as the suspend state, we'll need to communicate with the WKUP_M3 using
interrupts once we decide to enter Cx. I am not sure if we can do something
in the cpuidle implementation to work around the "interrupt for idle"
problem. We could probably not wait for an ACK when we want to enter Cx,
but the problem of limited wakeup sources remains. If we let the various
drivers block the entry to Cx, since almost all the IPs are in the
peripheral domain a system which uses anything other than UART and Timer
in WKUP domain will probably never be able enter Cx.

Regards,
Vaibhav

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-03 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 218+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-02 12:32 [RFC 00/15] Add basic suspend-resume support for AM33XX Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32 ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 01/15] ARM: OMAP2+: mailbox: Add an API for flushing the FIFO Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 19:00   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-02 19:00     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-03  8:24     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03  8:24       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 16:03   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 16:03     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:26     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:26       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 14:59       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 14:59         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 02/15] ARM: OMAP2+: mailbox: Add support for AM33XX Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03  0:14   ` Russ Dill
2012-11-03  0:14     ` Russ Dill
2012-11-03  8:39     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03  8:39       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 13:48     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 13:48       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 16:10   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 16:10     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:26     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:26       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 15:00       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 15:00         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 03/15] ARM: OMAP: mailbox: Convert to device_initcall Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03 16:12   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 16:12     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 04/15] ARM: OMAP2+: hwmod: Update the reset API for AM33XX Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-05  6:58   ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-05  6:58     ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-05 17:57     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 17:57       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  6:06       ` Hiremath, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  6:06         ` Hiremath, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  7:19         ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  7:19           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 05/15] ARM: OMAP2+: AM33XX: Update WKUP_M3 hwmod entry for reset status Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03 16:15   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 16:15     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:26     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:26       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05  6:59   ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-05  6:59     ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 06/15] ARM: OMAP2+: hwmod: Enable OCMCRAM registration in AM33XX Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03 16:16   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 16:16     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:26     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:26       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05  7:23   ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-05  7:23     ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-05 17:57     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 17:57       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  6:07       ` Hiremath, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  6:07         ` Hiremath, Vaibhav
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 07/15] ARM: OMAP2+: hwmod: Update the hwmod data for TPTCs " Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-05  7:19   ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-05  7:19     ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 08/15] ARM: OMAP2+: hwmod: Fix the omap_hwmod_addr_space for CPGMAC0 Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03 16:18   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 16:18     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:26     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:26       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05  9:10     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05  9:10       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  9:29       ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-06  9:29         ` Vaibhav Hiremath
2012-11-06 10:09         ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 10:09           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 13:08           ` Hiremath, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 13:08             ` Hiremath, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 13:46             ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 13:46               ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 13:50               ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-06 13:50                 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-06 13:56                 ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 13:56                   ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 09/15] ARM: OMAP: AM33XX: Remove unnecessary include and use __ASSEMBLER__ macros Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03 16:29   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 16:29     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:26     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:26       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 10/15] ARM: OMAP2+: control: Add some AM33XX Control module registers Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 11/15] ARM: OMAP: timer: Interchange clksrc and clkevt for AM33XX Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03 11:43   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 11:43     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 12:47     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 12:47       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 13:04       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 13:04         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 13:48         ` Bedia, Vaibhav [this message]
2012-11-03 13:48           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 18:03           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-05 18:03             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-05 21:59             ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 21:59               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-06 14:38               ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 14:38                 ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-08 13:15               ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-08 13:15                 ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 14:33             ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 14:33               ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 16:22   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 16:22     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-05  4:40     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05  4:40       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 16:31   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 16:31     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:26     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:26       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-08 20:41   ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-08 20:41     ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-12 22:54     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-12 22:54       ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 12/15] ARM: OMAP: timer: Add suspend-resume callbacks for clockevent device Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03 12:15   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 12:15     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 13:17     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 13:17       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 13:41       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 13:41         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 14:03         ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 14:03           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 21:20       ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-05 21:20         ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-06  9:38         ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  9:38           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 16:02           ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-06 16:02             ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-03 15:52   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 15:52     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:25     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:25       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 14:55       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 14:55         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 21:04   ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-05 21:04     ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-06  7:32     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  7:32       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 16:00       ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-06 16:00         ` Jon Hunter
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 13/15] ARM: DTS: AM33XX: Add nodes for OCMCRAM and Mailbox Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03 12:16   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 12:16     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 13:17     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 13:17       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 15:54   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 15:54     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:26     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:26       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 14:53       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 14:53         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 17:57         ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 17:57           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 19:29           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-05 19:29             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-05 21:19             ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 21:19               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 21:45               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 21:45                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-06  5:08                 ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06  5:08                   ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 14:58       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 14:58         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 14/15] ARM: OMAP2+: omap2plus_defconfig: Enable Mailbox Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-03 12:20   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 12:20     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 13:17     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 13:17       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 13:43       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-03 13:43         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-02 12:32 ` [PATCH 15/15] ARM: OMAP2+: AM33XX: Basic suspend resume support Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 12:32   ` Vaibhav Bedia
2012-11-02 13:11   ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-02 13:11     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03 16:57   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-03 16:57     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-04 15:26     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-04 15:26       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-05 17:40   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-05 17:40     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-05 21:52     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-05 21:52       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-06 12:29       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 12:29         ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 12:38         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-06 12:38           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-11-06 13:00           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 13:00             ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 10:40     ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-06 10:40       ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-07  1:06       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-07  1:06         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-07 13:25         ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-07 13:25           ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-07 17:15           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-07 17:15             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-11-08 13:05             ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-08 13:05               ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-02 22:16 ` [RFC 00/15] Add basic suspend-resume support for AM33XX Daniel Mack
2012-11-02 22:16   ` Daniel Mack
2012-11-03  8:39   ` Bedia, Vaibhav
2012-11-03  8:39     ` Bedia, Vaibhav

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