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From: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	kmcmartin@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/12] PCI: Require CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL for PCI BAR access
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:03:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+5PVA4VFgExGNrt5Yh+F4f48amAXKYAbdNFDy7VTFTguh6qTA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1363642353-30749-5-git-send-email-matthew.garrett@nebula.com>

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Matthew Garrett
<matthew.garrett@nebula.com> wrote:
> Any hardware that can potentially generate DMA has to be locked down from
> userspace in order to avoid it being possible for an attacker to cause
> arbitrary kernel behaviour. Default to paranoid - in future we can
> potentially relax this for sufficiently IOMMU-isolated devices.
>
> Signed-off-by: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>

As noted here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=908888

this breaks pci passthru with QEMU.  The suggestion in the bug is to move
the check from read/write to open, but sysfs makes that somewhat
difficult.  The open code is part of the core sysfs functionality shared
with the majority of sysfs files, so adding a check there would restrict
things that clearly don't need to be restricted.

Kyle had the idea to add a cap field to the attribute structure, and do
a capable check if that is set.  That would allow for a more generic
usage of capabilities in sysfs code, at the cost of slightly increasing
the structure size and open path.  That seems somewhat promising if we
stick with capabilities.

I would love to just squarely blame capabilities for causing this, but we
can't just replace it with an efi_enabled(EFI_SECURE_BOOT) check because
of the sysfs open case.  I'm not sure there are great answers here.

josh

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>
Cc: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	kmcmartin@redhat.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/12] PCI: Require CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL for PCI BAR access
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:03:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+5PVA4VFgExGNrt5Yh+F4f48amAXKYAbdNFDy7VTFTguh6qTA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1363642353-30749-5-git-send-email-matthew.garrett@nebula.com>

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Matthew Garrett
<matthew.garrett@nebula.com> wrote:
> Any hardware that can potentially generate DMA has to be locked down from
> userspace in order to avoid it being possible for an attacker to cause
> arbitrary kernel behaviour. Default to paranoid - in future we can
> potentially relax this for sufficiently IOMMU-isolated devices.
>
> Signed-off-by: Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>

As noted here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=908888

this breaks pci passthru with QEMU.  The suggestion in the bug is to move
the check from read/write to open, but sysfs makes that somewhat
difficult.  The open code is part of the core sysfs functionality shared
with the majority of sysfs files, so adding a check there would restrict
things that clearly don't need to be restricted.

Kyle had the idea to add a cap field to the attribute structure, and do
a capable check if that is set.  That would allow for a more generic
usage of capabilities in sysfs code, at the cost of slightly increasing
the structure size and open path.  That seems somewhat promising if we
stick with capabilities.

I would love to just squarely blame capabilities for causing this, but we
can't just replace it with an efi_enabled(EFI_SECURE_BOOT) check because
of the sysfs open case.  I'm not sure there are great answers here.

josh

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Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-18 21:32 [PATCH 01/12] Security: Add CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 02/12] SELinux: define mapping for CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 03/12] Secure boot: Add a dummy kernel parameter that will switch on Secure Boot mode Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 04/12] efi: Enable secure boot lockdown automatically when enabled in firmware Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 05/12] PCI: Require CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL for PCI BAR access Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-27 15:03   ` Josh Boyer [this message]
2013-03-27 15:03     ` Josh Boyer
2013-03-27 15:08     ` Kyle McMartin
2013-03-27 15:08       ` Kyle McMartin
2013-03-28 12:46       ` Josh Boyer
2013-03-28 12:46         ` Josh Boyer
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 06/12] x86: Require CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL for IO port access Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20  1:00   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20  1:00     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 07/12] ACPI: Limit access to custom_method Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 08/12] asus-wmi: Restrict debugfs interface Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 09/12] Require CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL for /dev/mem and /dev/kmem access Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 10/12] acpi: Ignore acpi_rsdp kernel parameter in a secure boot environment Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-19  8:47   ` Dave Young
2013-03-19  8:47     ` Dave Young
2013-03-19  8:47     ` Dave Young
2013-03-19 11:19     ` Josh Boyer
2013-03-19 11:19       ` Josh Boyer
2013-03-19 11:19       ` Josh Boyer
2013-03-19 17:07       ` [PATCH v2] " Josh Boyer
2013-03-19 17:07         ` Josh Boyer
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 11/12] x86: Require CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL for MSR writing Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32 ` [PATCH 12/12] kexec: Require CAP_SYS_COMPROMISE_KERNEL Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-18 21:32   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-19  4:47 ` [PATCH 01/12] Security: Add CAP_COMPROMISE_KERNEL James Morris
2013-03-19  4:47   ` James Morris
2013-03-19  4:47   ` James Morris
2013-03-20  1:03   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20  1:03     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20 16:41   ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 16:41     ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 16:49     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 16:49       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 16:49       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 16:49       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 18:01       ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 18:01         ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 18:01         ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 18:12         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 18:12           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 18:12           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 18:12           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 19:16           ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 19:16             ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 19:16             ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 19:16             ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 20:37             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 20:37               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 20:37               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 20:37               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 21:11               ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 21:11                 ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 21:11                 ` Mimi Zohar
2013-03-20 21:18                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 21:18                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 21:18                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 21:18                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-21 13:43                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 13:43                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 13:43                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 13:43                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 15:37                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 15:37                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 15:37                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 15:37                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 15:52                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 15:52                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 15:52                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 15:52                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 15:58                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 15:58                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 15:58                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 15:58                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 16:04                           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 16:04                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 16:04                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 16:19                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 16:19                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 16:19                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 16:19                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-21 17:15                               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 17:15                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 17:15                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21 17:15                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-21  1:58     ` James Morris
2013-03-21  1:58       ` James Morris
2013-03-19  7:18 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-03-19  7:18   ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2013-03-20  1:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20  1:02   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20  1:05   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20  1:05     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20 13:15   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 13:15     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 13:15     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 13:15     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 15:03     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20 15:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20 15:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20 15:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20 15:14       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 15:14         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 15:14         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 15:14         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-20 16:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20 16:45           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-20 16:45           ` H. Peter Anvin

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