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From: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
To: Dmitry Sepp <dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com>
Cc: "Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	"Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>,
	"Enrico Granata" <egranata@google.com>,
	"Frediano Ziglio" <fziglio@redhat.com>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>,
	spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>,
	uril@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 15:46:34 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAFQd5DUY6jYu-kuOP9pc72dddg80gZzMktxTGdkxE_PDw1HRg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2584386.DF4NACHtsB@os-lin-dmo>

On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 12:46 AM Dmitry Sepp
<dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com> wrote:
> On Freitag, 20. Dezember 2019 16:26:50 CET Keiichi Watanabe wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:28 PM Dmitry Sepp
> > <dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com> wrote:
> > > On Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2019 14:02:14 CET Keiichi Watanabe wrote:
[snip]
> > > > +enum virtio_video_format {
> > > > + VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_UNDEFINED = 0,
> > > > + /* Raw formats */
> > > > + VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_NV12 = 1,
> > > > + VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_YUV420,
> > > > + VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_YVU420,
> > >
> > > Let's add some variants of RGB, like RGBA, ARGB. We need it for the
> > > encoder in particular .
> >
> > Sounds good.
> > BTW, which "ARGB8888" or "A8R8G8B8" is preferred? While the first one
> > comes from DRM's FourCC, the second one comes from virtio_gpu_formats.
> > I personally prefer the first one, then we can have a naming convention
> > like: VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_<name from drm_fourcc.h>
> >
>
> I'd go with ARGB8888 and BGRA8888 (might be with X variants).

Just to make sure we're talking about the same formats. DRM naming
convention is based on the little endian convention, which for 32-bit
formats means that you interpret the whole pixel as a packed 32-bit
word on a little endian system. For ARGB8888 that would mean (bit 31)
ARGB (bit 0) in the 32-bit word and (byte 0) B, G, R, A (byte 3) when
looking at separate bytes in memory. Does that correspond to your
expected format?

We also have to be specific about the A and X formats, as the A format
should be supported only if the hardware (host) doesn't ignore the
alpha channel. I haven't seen any hardware capable of encoding alpha
channel yet, but apparently for WebM the standard is to just encode
the alpha channel into another stream as Y, together with dummy U and
V values. [1] That sounds like something that would be handled by two
separate encoding streams and not just one that accepts RGBA on the
input.

[1] http://wiki.webmproject.org/alpha-channel

Best regards,
Tomasz

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
To: Dmitry Sepp <dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com>
Cc: "Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	"Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>,
	"Enrico Granata" <egranata@google.com>,
	"Frediano Ziglio" <fziglio@redhat.com>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>,
	spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>,
	uril@redhat.com
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 15:46:34 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAFQd5DUY6jYu-kuOP9pc72dddg80gZzMktxTGdkxE_PDw1HRg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2584386.DF4NACHtsB@os-lin-dmo>

On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 12:46 AM Dmitry Sepp
<dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com> wrote:
> On Freitag, 20. Dezember 2019 16:26:50 CET Keiichi Watanabe wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:28 PM Dmitry Sepp
> > <dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com> wrote:
> > > On Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2019 14:02:14 CET Keiichi Watanabe wrote:
[snip]
> > > > +enum virtio_video_format {
> > > > + VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_UNDEFINED = 0,
> > > > + /* Raw formats */
> > > > + VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_NV12 = 1,
> > > > + VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_YUV420,
> > > > + VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_YVU420,
> > >
> > > Let's add some variants of RGB, like RGBA, ARGB. We need it for the
> > > encoder in particular .
> >
> > Sounds good.
> > BTW, which "ARGB8888" or "A8R8G8B8" is preferred? While the first one
> > comes from DRM's FourCC, the second one comes from virtio_gpu_formats.
> > I personally prefer the first one, then we can have a naming convention
> > like: VIRTIO_VIDEO_FORMAT_<name from drm_fourcc.h>
> >
>
> I'd go with ARGB8888 and BGRA8888 (might be with X variants).

Just to make sure we're talking about the same formats. DRM naming
convention is based on the little endian convention, which for 32-bit
formats means that you interpret the whole pixel as a packed 32-bit
word on a little endian system. For ARGB8888 that would mean (bit 31)
ARGB (bit 0) in the 32-bit word and (byte 0) B, G, R, A (byte 3) when
looking at separate bytes in memory. Does that correspond to your
expected format?

We also have to be specific about the A and X formats, as the A format
should be supported only if the hardware (host) doesn't ignore the
alpha channel. I haven't seen any hardware capable of encoding alpha
channel yet, but apparently for WebM the standard is to just encode
the alpha channel into another stream as Y, together with dummy U and
V values. [1] That sounds like something that would be handled by two
separate encoding streams and not just one that accepts RGBA on the
input.

[1] http://wiki.webmproject.org/alpha-channel

Best regards,
Tomasz

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-21  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-18 13:02 [PATCH v2 0/1] VirtIO video device specification Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-18 13:02 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-18 13:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-video: Add virtio " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-18 13:02   ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-18 13:40   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-18 13:40     ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-18 14:08     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-18 14:08       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19  7:46       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19  7:46         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19  9:48         ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19  9:48           ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19  9:59           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19  9:59             ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 10:54             ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19 10:54               ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19 12:05               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 12:05                 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 13:12               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19 13:12                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-08 13:52                 ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:52                   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-09 13:40                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-09 13:40                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-09 14:20                   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-09 14:20                     ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-14  7:18                     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-14  7:18                       ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-14 10:35                       ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-14 10:35                         ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-15  7:49                         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15  7:49                           ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15 11:12                         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-15 11:12                           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 13:01           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19 13:01             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-08 13:50             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:50               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-19  9:26     ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19  9:26       ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19  9:59       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19  9:59         ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-12-19 12:54       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19 12:54         ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-18 17:29   ` Frediano Ziglio
2019-12-20 14:05     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 14:05       ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 15:33       ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-20 15:33         ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19 13:28   ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-19 13:28     ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-20 15:26     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 15:26       ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 15:46       ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-21  6:46         ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2019-12-21  6:46           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-30 12:16     ` Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-30 12:16       ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06  6:31       ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-06  6:31         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-06  8:33         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-06  8:33           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-06  9:29           ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06  9:29             ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-03 15:47   ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-03 15:47     ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06  8:47     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-06  8:47       ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-06 10:21     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-06 10:21       ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-06 14:59   ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06 14:59     ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-07 13:24     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-07 13:24       ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-07 16:50       ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-07 16:50         ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08  6:59         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08  6:59           ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 10:00           ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08 10:00             ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08 12:14             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 12:14               ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 12:46               ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-08 12:46                 ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2020-01-08 13:05                 ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:05                   ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:11                 ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08 13:11                   ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-08 13:23                   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 13:23                     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 12:23   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-08 12:23     ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-20 15:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] VirtIO " Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-20 15:58   ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2019-12-21  4:36   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-21  4:36     ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-12-21  6:18     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-21  6:18       ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2019-12-21  6:19       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-12-21  6:19         ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa
2020-01-03 13:05         ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-03 13:05           ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06 10:30           ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-06 10:30             ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-06 11:28             ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-06 11:28               ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-07 10:25               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-07 10:25                 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-09 14:56                 ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-09 14:56                   ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-10 10:16                   ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-10 10:16                     ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-10 13:53                     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-10 13:53                       ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-10 15:11                       ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-10 15:11                         ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-11 16:06                         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-11 16:06                           ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-13  9:50                           ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-13  9:50                             ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-15 11:23                             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15 11:23                               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-13  9:56                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13  9:56                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13 10:41                           ` Dmitry Sepp
2020-01-13 11:05                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13 11:05                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13 11:59                               ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-13 11:59                                 ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-13 13:26                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-13 13:26                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-15 11:00                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-15 11:00                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2020-01-15 11:23                                     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15 11:23                                       ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-15 11:26                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-15 11:26                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-20  7:20                                       ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-20  7:20                                         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-20 10:47                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-20 10:47                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-21  2:47                                           ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-21  2:47                                             ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-21  6:44                                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-21  6:44                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-01-21  8:56                                               ` Keiichi Watanabe
2020-01-21  8:56                                                 ` Keiichi Watanabe

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