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From: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Evgeniy Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>, Lee Smith <Lee.Smith@arm.com>,
	Ramana Radhakrishnan <Ramana.Radhakrishnan@arm.com>,
	Jacob Bramley <Jacob.Bramley@arm.com>,
	Ruben Ayrapetyan <Ruben.Ayrapetyan@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/6] mm, arm64: untag user addresses in memory syscalls
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 18:31:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeHK+xF0X-SQuPVmZF--VnmvYrbpDkznSwYTh_3LHq1H2V=9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180309155315.4x44sbp3darractt@armageddon.cambridge.arm.com>

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:53 PM, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 03:02:01PM +0100, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
>> Memory subsystem syscalls accept user addresses as arguments, but don't use
>> copy_from_user and other similar functions, so we need to handle this case
>> separately.
>>
>> Untag user pointers passed to madvise, mbind, get_mempolicy, mincore,
>> mlock, mlock2, brk, mmap_pgoff, old_mmap, munmap, remap_file_pages,
>> mprotect, pkey_mprotect, mremap and msync.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
>
> Please keep the cc list small (maybe linux-arch, linux-arm-kernel) as
> I'm sure some lists would consider this spam.

OK.

>
>>  mm/madvise.c   | 2 ++
>>  mm/mempolicy.c | 6 ++++++
>>  mm/mincore.c   | 2 ++
>>  mm/mlock.c     | 5 +++++
>>  mm/mmap.c      | 9 +++++++++
>>  mm/mprotect.c  | 2 ++
>>  mm/mremap.c    | 2 ++
>>  mm/msync.c     | 3 +++
>
> I'm not yet convinced these functions need to allow tagged pointers.
> They are not doing memory accesses but rather dealing with the memory
> range, hence an untagged pointer is better suited. There is probably a
> reason why the "start" argument is "unsigned long" vs "void __user *"
> (in the kernel, not the man page).

So that would make the user to untag pointers before passing to these syscalls.

Evgeniy, would that be possible to untag pointers in HWASan before
using memory subsystem syscalls? Is there a reason for untagging them
in the kernel?

>
> --
> Catalin

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: andreyknvl@google.com (Andrey Konovalov)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 3/6] mm, arm64: untag user addresses in memory syscalls
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 18:31:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeHK+xF0X-SQuPVmZF--VnmvYrbpDkznSwYTh_3LHq1H2V=9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180309155315.4x44sbp3darractt@armageddon.cambridge.arm.com>

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:53 PM, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 03:02:01PM +0100, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
>> Memory subsystem syscalls accept user addresses as arguments, but don't use
>> copy_from_user and other similar functions, so we need to handle this case
>> separately.
>>
>> Untag user pointers passed to madvise, mbind, get_mempolicy, mincore,
>> mlock, mlock2, brk, mmap_pgoff, old_mmap, munmap, remap_file_pages,
>> mprotect, pkey_mprotect, mremap and msync.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
>
> Please keep the cc list small (maybe linux-arch, linux-arm-kernel) as
> I'm sure some lists would consider this spam.

OK.

>
>>  mm/madvise.c   | 2 ++
>>  mm/mempolicy.c | 6 ++++++
>>  mm/mincore.c   | 2 ++
>>  mm/mlock.c     | 5 +++++
>>  mm/mmap.c      | 9 +++++++++
>>  mm/mprotect.c  | 2 ++
>>  mm/mremap.c    | 2 ++
>>  mm/msync.c     | 3 +++
>
> I'm not yet convinced these functions need to allow tagged pointers.
> They are not doing memory accesses but rather dealing with the memory
> range, hence an untagged pointer is better suited. There is probably a
> reason why the "start" argument is "unsigned long" vs "void __user *"
> (in the kernel, not the man page).

So that would make the user to untag pointers before passing to these syscalls.

Evgeniy, would that be possible to untag pointers in HWASan before
using memory subsystem syscalls? Is there a reason for untagging them
in the kernel?

>
> --
> Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-09 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-09 14:01 [RFC PATCH 0/6] arm64: untag user pointers passed to the kernel Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:01 ` [OpenRISC] " Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:01 ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:01 ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] arm64: add type casts to untagged_addr macro Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:01   ` [OpenRISC] " Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:01   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:01   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] arm64: untag user addresses in copy_from_user and others Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` [OpenRISC] " Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 15:03   ` Mark Rutland
2018-03-09 15:03     ` Mark Rutland
2018-03-09 15:58     ` Catalin Marinas
2018-03-09 15:58       ` Catalin Marinas
2018-03-09 15:58       ` Catalin Marinas
2018-03-09 15:58       ` Catalin Marinas
2018-03-09 17:57       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 17:57         ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] mm, arm64: untag user addresses in memory syscalls Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` [OpenRISC] " Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 15:53   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-03-09 15:53     ` Catalin Marinas
2018-03-09 17:31     ` Andrey Konovalov [this message]
2018-03-09 17:31       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 17:42       ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-03-09 17:42         ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-03-14 15:45         ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-14 15:45           ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-14 17:44           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-03-14 17:44             ` Catalin Marinas
2018-03-16  1:11             ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-03-16  1:11               ` Evgenii Stepanov
2018-03-09 14:02 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] mm, arm64: untag user addresses in mm/gup.c Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` [OpenRISC] " Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] lib, arm64: untag addrs passed to strncpy_from_user and strnlen_user Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` [OpenRISC] " Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] arch: add untagged_addr definition for other arches Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` [OpenRISC] " Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:02   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-09 14:11     ` [OpenRISC] " Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-09 14:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-09 14:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-09 14:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-09 14:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-09 14:16   ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-09 14:16     ` [OpenRISC] " Robin Murphy
2018-03-09 14:16     ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-09 14:16     ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-09 15:47     ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 15:47       ` [OpenRISC] " Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 15:47       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 15:47       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 15:47       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 15:47       ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] arm64: untag user pointers passed to the kernel Robin Murphy
2018-03-09 14:15   ` [OpenRISC] " Robin Murphy
2018-03-09 14:15   ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-09 14:15   ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-09 17:58   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 17:58     ` [OpenRISC] " Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 17:58     ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 17:58     ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 17:58     ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 17:58     ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 14:55 ` Mark Rutland
2018-03-09 14:55   ` Mark Rutland
2018-03-09 15:16   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-03-09 15:16     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-03-09 17:58   ` Andrey Konovalov
2018-03-09 17:58     ` Andrey Konovalov

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