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From: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
To: Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org>
Cc: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
	Chris Zhong <zyw@rock-chips.com>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rtc-linux@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3] RTC: RK808: Compensate for Rockchip calendar deviation on November 31st
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:25:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD=FV=XwhF7zkURD9wKP4PaShSE0zuZy6EvbkveCc08RtyPv8Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAODwPW8b9WnrPmtzBZEqCxevYEjYBBKR28PgkwVrwqfCw6-txA@mail.gmail.com>

Julius,

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org> wrote:
> Okay, wrote up and tested the anchor date version. I think once you
> get over the initial weirdness of the approach this one is really much
> cleaner and safer.
>
> I tested this with the older rtc_tm_to_time() API and only ported it
> over to rtc_tm_to_time64() for submission, since my 3.14 kernel didn't
> have that yet... but it still compiles fine and the change was very
> trivial so I'm confident that it should work.
>
> I also did a big manual test for my conversion functions where I just
> threw a whole bunch of dates at them, results below for reference:
>
> [    1.431216] jwerner: Testing translation functions:
> [    1.431221] 2015-01-01 to_rockchip: 2015-01-02 to_gregorian: 2014-12-31
> [    1.431224] 2015-10-30 to_rockchip: 2015-10-31 to_gregorian: 2015-10-29
> [    1.431228] 2015-10-31 to_rockchip: 2015-11-01 to_gregorian: 2015-10-30
> [    1.431231] 2015-11-01 to_rockchip: 2015-11-02 to_gregorian: 2015-10-31
> [    1.431235] 2015-11-27 to_rockchip: 2015-11-28 to_gregorian: 2015-11-26
> [    1.431238] 2015-11-28 to_rockchip: 2015-11-29 to_gregorian: 2015-11-27
> [    1.431242] 2015-11-29 to_rockchip: 2015-11-30 to_gregorian: 2015-11-28
> [    1.431245] 2015-11-30 to_rockchip: 2015-12-01 to_gregorian: 2015-11-29
>
> This one is actually a bug... to_rockchip should be 2015-11-31 here.
> It happens because the "compensate if we went back over" part of
> gregorian_to_rockchip() only checks whether we went over *backwards*,
> which happens if the date is after the anchor date. If it was before
> we can go back over forwards and I didn't bother to handle that case.
> I think this is fine since all affected dates lie in the past and
> there's no real-world use case where you'd ever need them to work
> again.

Thanks for the testing.

Ah, I see, so the problem with your patch is only right around 11/31
in years past.  That seems OK to me.

There's actually a real world case that's pretty common where we want
to work with dates before 2016.  When I power cycle my device and it
totally loses battery, I notice that the firmware seems to start as:

 2013-01-21 00:50:02

It's possible we could need to run for a while in this state and we
possibly could even need alarms to fire.  ...but that's nowhere near
the problematic dates and presumably someone wouldn't have a system in
the "clock set totally wrong" state for a really long time.

-Doug

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From: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
To: Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org>
Cc: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
	Chris Zhong <zyw@rock-chips.com>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rtc-linux@googlegroups.com
Subject: [rtc-linux] Re: [PATCHv3] RTC: RK808: Compensate for Rockchip calendar deviation on November 31st
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:25:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD=FV=XwhF7zkURD9wKP4PaShSE0zuZy6EvbkveCc08RtyPv8Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAODwPW8b9WnrPmtzBZEqCxevYEjYBBKR28PgkwVrwqfCw6-txA@mail.gmail.com>

Julius,

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org> wrote:
> Okay, wrote up and tested the anchor date version. I think once you
> get over the initial weirdness of the approach this one is really much
> cleaner and safer.
>
> I tested this with the older rtc_tm_to_time() API and only ported it
> over to rtc_tm_to_time64() for submission, since my 3.14 kernel didn't
> have that yet... but it still compiles fine and the change was very
> trivial so I'm confident that it should work.
>
> I also did a big manual test for my conversion functions where I just
> threw a whole bunch of dates at them, results below for reference:
>
> [    1.431216] jwerner: Testing translation functions:
> [    1.431221] 2015-01-01 to_rockchip: 2015-01-02 to_gregorian: 2014-12-31
> [    1.431224] 2015-10-30 to_rockchip: 2015-10-31 to_gregorian: 2015-10-29
> [    1.431228] 2015-10-31 to_rockchip: 2015-11-01 to_gregorian: 2015-10-30
> [    1.431231] 2015-11-01 to_rockchip: 2015-11-02 to_gregorian: 2015-10-31
> [    1.431235] 2015-11-27 to_rockchip: 2015-11-28 to_gregorian: 2015-11-26
> [    1.431238] 2015-11-28 to_rockchip: 2015-11-29 to_gregorian: 2015-11-27
> [    1.431242] 2015-11-29 to_rockchip: 2015-11-30 to_gregorian: 2015-11-28
> [    1.431245] 2015-11-30 to_rockchip: 2015-12-01 to_gregorian: 2015-11-29
>
> This one is actually a bug... to_rockchip should be 2015-11-31 here.
> It happens because the "compensate if we went back over" part of
> gregorian_to_rockchip() only checks whether we went over *backwards*,
> which happens if the date is after the anchor date. If it was before
> we can go back over forwards and I didn't bother to handle that case.
> I think this is fine since all affected dates lie in the past and
> there's no real-world use case where you'd ever need them to work
> again.

Thanks for the testing.

Ah, I see, so the problem with your patch is only right around 11/31
in years past.  That seems OK to me.

There's actually a real world case that's pretty common where we want
to work with dates before 2016.  When I power cycle my device and it
totally loses battery, I notice that the firmware seems to start as:

 2013-01-21 00:50:02

It's possible we could need to run for a while in this state and we
possibly could even need alarms to fire.  ...but that's nowhere near
the problematic dates and presumably someone wouldn't have a system in
the "clock set totally wrong" state for a really long time.

-Doug

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-19  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-03  1:53 [PATCH] RTC: RK808: Work around hardware bug on November 31st Julius Werner
2015-12-03  1:53 ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-03 14:42 ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-03 14:42   ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-03 16:53   ` Julius Werner
2015-12-03 16:53     ` Julius Werner
2015-12-04 23:50 ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-04 23:50   ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  0:25   ` Julius Werner
2015-12-05  0:25     ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-05  0:58     ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  0:58       ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  1:54       ` Julius Werner
2015-12-05  1:54         ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-05  4:02         ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  4:02           ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  4:53           ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  4:53             ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  7:17             ` Julius Werner
2015-12-05  7:17               ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-06  0:36               ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-06  0:36                 ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  1:33                 ` Chris Zhong
2015-12-07  1:33                   ` [rtc-linux] " Chris Zhong
2015-12-07  2:50                   ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  2:50                     ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  2:52                     ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  2:52                       ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  3:08                       ` Chris Zhong
2015-12-07  3:08                         ` [rtc-linux] " Chris Zhong
2015-12-07 20:28                         ` Julius Werner
2015-12-07 20:28                           ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-07 22:40                           ` Julius Werner
2015-12-07 22:40                             ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-08  1:17                           ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-08  1:17                             ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-08  1:41                             ` Julius Werner
2015-12-08  1:41                               ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-08  5:19                               ` Julius Werner
2015-12-08  5:19                                 ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-08  5:21                                 ` [PATCH v2] " Julius Werner
2015-12-08  5:21                                   ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-09  5:44                                   ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-09  5:44                                     ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-09 21:32                                     ` Julius Werner
2015-12-09 21:32                                       ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-10 18:41                                       ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-10 18:41                                         ` [rtc-linux] " Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-10 18:57                                         ` Julius Werner
2015-12-10 18:57                                           ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-15 23:02                                           ` [PATCHv3] RTC: RK808: Compensate for Rockchip calendar deviation " Julius Werner
2015-12-15 23:02                                             ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-15 23:14                                             ` Julius Werner
2015-12-15 23:14                                               ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-19  0:25                                               ` Doug Anderson [this message]
2015-12-19  0:25                                                 ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-19  0:31                                                 ` Julius Werner
2015-12-19  0:31                                                   ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-19  0:26                                             ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-19  0:26                                               ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-21  8:16                                             ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-21  8:16                                               ` [rtc-linux] " Alexandre Belloni

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