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From: Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
	Chris Zhong <zyw@rock-chips.com>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rtc-linux@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3] RTC: RK808: Compensate for Rockchip calendar deviation on November 31st
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:31:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAODwPW9JP_DhKC73f5CWcMkkOM=KX3M8v7y0cke0y13Ywcxv_w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=XwhF7zkURD9wKP4PaShSE0zuZy6EvbkveCc08RtyPv8Q@mail.gmail.com>

> There's actually a real world case that's pretty common where we want
> to work with dates before 2016.  When I power cycle my device and it
> totally loses battery, I notice that the firmware seems to start as:
>
>  2013-01-21 00:50:02
>
> It's possible we could need to run for a while in this state and we
> possibly could even need alarms to fire.  ...but that's nowhere near
> the problematic dates and presumably someone wouldn't have a system in
> the "clock set totally wrong" state for a really long time.

Yeah... I don't think it really makes much sense to worry about that.
At that point it's much more likely that you will loose an alarm
because the user finally fixes the clock at some point (either
manually or by connecting to a network and having some automated sync
service jump in), and we never worry about something like that either.
I mean, fixing it wouldn't be a big deal (another 5 lines or so
maybe), but I just don't think it's worth adding any complexity.

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From: Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
	Chris Zhong <zyw@rock-chips.com>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rtc-linux@googlegroups.com
Subject: [rtc-linux] Re: [PATCHv3] RTC: RK808: Compensate for Rockchip calendar deviation on November 31st
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:31:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAODwPW9JP_DhKC73f5CWcMkkOM=KX3M8v7y0cke0y13Ywcxv_w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD=FV=XwhF7zkURD9wKP4PaShSE0zuZy6EvbkveCc08RtyPv8Q@mail.gmail.com>

> There's actually a real world case that's pretty common where we want
> to work with dates before 2016.  When I power cycle my device and it
> totally loses battery, I notice that the firmware seems to start as:
>
>  2013-01-21 00:50:02
>
> It's possible we could need to run for a while in this state and we
> possibly could even need alarms to fire.  ...but that's nowhere near
> the problematic dates and presumably someone wouldn't have a system in
> the "clock set totally wrong" state for a really long time.

Yeah... I don't think it really makes much sense to worry about that.
At that point it's much more likely that you will loose an alarm
because the user finally fixes the clock at some point (either
manually or by connecting to a network and having some automated sync
service jump in), and we never worry about something like that either.
I mean, fixing it wouldn't be a big deal (another 5 lines or so
maybe), but I just don't think it's worth adding any complexity.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-19  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-03  1:53 [PATCH] RTC: RK808: Work around hardware bug on November 31st Julius Werner
2015-12-03  1:53 ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-03 14:42 ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-03 14:42   ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-03 16:53   ` Julius Werner
2015-12-03 16:53     ` Julius Werner
2015-12-04 23:50 ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-04 23:50   ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  0:25   ` Julius Werner
2015-12-05  0:25     ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-05  0:58     ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  0:58       ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  1:54       ` Julius Werner
2015-12-05  1:54         ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-05  4:02         ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  4:02           ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  4:53           ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  4:53             ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-05  7:17             ` Julius Werner
2015-12-05  7:17               ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-06  0:36               ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-06  0:36                 ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  1:33                 ` Chris Zhong
2015-12-07  1:33                   ` [rtc-linux] " Chris Zhong
2015-12-07  2:50                   ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  2:50                     ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  2:52                     ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  2:52                       ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-07  3:08                       ` Chris Zhong
2015-12-07  3:08                         ` [rtc-linux] " Chris Zhong
2015-12-07 20:28                         ` Julius Werner
2015-12-07 20:28                           ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-07 22:40                           ` Julius Werner
2015-12-07 22:40                             ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-08  1:17                           ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-08  1:17                             ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-08  1:41                             ` Julius Werner
2015-12-08  1:41                               ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-08  5:19                               ` Julius Werner
2015-12-08  5:19                                 ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-08  5:21                                 ` [PATCH v2] " Julius Werner
2015-12-08  5:21                                   ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-09  5:44                                   ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-09  5:44                                     ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-09 21:32                                     ` Julius Werner
2015-12-09 21:32                                       ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-10 18:41                                       ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-10 18:41                                         ` [rtc-linux] " Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-10 18:57                                         ` Julius Werner
2015-12-10 18:57                                           ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-15 23:02                                           ` [PATCHv3] RTC: RK808: Compensate for Rockchip calendar deviation " Julius Werner
2015-12-15 23:02                                             ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-15 23:14                                             ` Julius Werner
2015-12-15 23:14                                               ` [rtc-linux] " Julius Werner
2015-12-19  0:25                                               ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-19  0:25                                                 ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-19  0:31                                                 ` Julius Werner [this message]
2015-12-19  0:31                                                   ` Julius Werner
2015-12-19  0:26                                             ` Doug Anderson
2015-12-19  0:26                                               ` [rtc-linux] " Doug Anderson
2015-12-21  8:16                                             ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-12-21  8:16                                               ` [rtc-linux] " Alexandre Belloni

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