From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: speck@linutronix.de
Subject: [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] MDSv2 5
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 15:00:54 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wg8+Dkp0abqFa6TZAWJq-KT9sgSr=XZuw7w96fmufuoyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d6a3fbe4c511152a0f5350e62e9e09ec545f709.1544464266.git.ak@linux.intel.com>
Honestly, this looks completely bogus.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 2:37 PM speck for Andi Kleen
<speck@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> +void clear_cpu_buffers_idle(void)
> +{
> + if (cpu_smt_control != CPU_SMT_ENABLED)
> + return;
> + /* Has to be memory form, don't modify to use an register */
> + alternative_input("",
> + "pushq %[kernelds]; verw (%%rsp) ; addq $8,%%rsp \n",
> + X86_FEATURE_MB_CLEAR,
> + [kernelds] "i" (__KERNEL_DS));
> +}
So you have a non-inline function that
- has a test to return early
- does a *single* instruction
- the instruction gets nop'ed out if it's not valid
all of which just *screams* "that's wrong" to me. Why isn't it inline
and a static branch?
The actual asm sequence also seems bad to me.
Why isn't that just using
int val = __KERNEL_DS;
with the asm just doing
"verw %[kernelds]" .. [kernelds] "m" (val)
instead, letting gcc do the stack setup part.
Maybe none of this matters simply because it's in the idle case, but
the exact same issues happen for the kernel exit case.
And no, we're not doing that insane kernel exit software case by
default. Not without a whole lot of examples of horrid badness.
The data that system calls touch is basically already user data. Sure,
there may be kernel pointers etc there, but we've already accepted
those leaking locally for all the usual reasons that we have no
control over.
So the whole "let's add crazy long sequences to every kernel exit" is
not going to happen. Not without a lot more explanations.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-10 23:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-10 17:53 [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 0/8] MDSv2 8 Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 1/8] MDSv2 4 Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 14:14 ` [MODERATED] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-12-12 21:22 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 21:28 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 21:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 2/8] MDSv2 1 Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 22:49 ` [MODERATED] " Jiri Kosina
2018-12-11 0:03 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 0:13 ` Kanth Ghatraju
2018-12-11 2:00 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 5:36 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-12-11 10:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-12 21:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 21:43 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 22:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-12 22:40 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 22:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-13 15:15 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-12-13 16:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 3/8] MDSv2 5 Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 23:00 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-12-11 0:03 ` [MODERATED] " Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 0:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11 1:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11 2:12 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 2:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11 3:25 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11 18:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-11 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11 18:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-11 19:47 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 21:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-12-12 14:02 ` [MODERATED] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-12-12 17:58 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-13 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-13 20:48 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-13 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-15 0:30 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 2:10 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 0:09 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 4/8] MDSv2 0 Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 21:45 ` [MODERATED] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 22:09 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 22:36 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 5/8] MDSv2 7 Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 0:33 ` [MODERATED] " Andrew Cooper
2018-12-12 18:05 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-12-12 21:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 22:12 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 6/8] MDSv2 3 Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 0:37 ` [MODERATED] " Andrew Cooper
2018-12-11 0:46 ` Luck, Tony
2018-12-11 1:02 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-12-11 1:53 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 7/8] MDSv2 6 Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 8/8] MDSv2 2 Andi Kleen
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