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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: speck@linutronix.de
Subject: [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v2 3/8] MDSv2 5
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 12:56:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wh3_ncvDBxiQmU76=nd+eefD25DyCB58ZQg77OvoxwoZg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181213204828.GM25620@tassilo.jf.intel.com>

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:50 PM speck for Andi Kleen
<speck@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> I don't think it has been worked out yet, but the reason
> I added the software sequences is that some CPUs may not
> be able to do the VERW in microcode updates.

Yes. But it really sounded that nobody cared, and people actually
argued against it (ei particularly the vmware case).

Or rather, the people who cared were pushing for the micorocode
updates to be extended back to Westmere Xeon, rather than use a sw
sequence.

Most people that run hardware that is basically 10+ years old by now
won't be upgrading kernels _or_ microcode, so us worrying about them
sounds pretty much pointless.

                    Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-13 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-10 17:53 [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 0/8] MDSv2 8 Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 1/8] MDSv2 4 Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 14:14   ` [MODERATED] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-12-12 21:22   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 21:28     ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 21:25   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 2/8] MDSv2 1 Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 22:49   ` [MODERATED] " Jiri Kosina
2018-12-11  0:03     ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11  0:13     ` Kanth Ghatraju
2018-12-11  2:00       ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11  5:36       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-12-11 10:03       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-12 21:31         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 21:43           ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 22:17           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-12 22:40             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 22:45               ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-13 15:15                 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-12-13 16:52                   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 3/8] MDSv2 5 Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 23:00   ` [MODERATED] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11  0:03     ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11  0:43       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11  1:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11  2:12           ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11  2:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11  3:25             ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 17:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11 18:10                 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-11 18:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11 18:26                   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-11 19:47                   ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11 21:22                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-12-12 14:02               ` [MODERATED] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-12-12 17:58                 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 18:47                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-13 19:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-13 20:48                       ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-13 20:56                         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-12-15  0:30                         ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11  2:10         ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-11  0:09     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 4/8] MDSv2 0 Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 21:45   ` [MODERATED] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 22:09     ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-12 22:36       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 5/8] MDSv2 7 Andi Kleen
2018-12-11  0:33   ` [MODERATED] " Andrew Cooper
2018-12-12 18:05     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-12-12 21:41   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-12 22:12     ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 6/8] MDSv2 3 Andi Kleen
2018-12-11  0:37   ` [MODERATED] " Andrew Cooper
2018-12-11  0:46     ` Luck, Tony
2018-12-11  1:02       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-12-11  1:53       ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 7/8] MDSv2 6 Andi Kleen
2018-12-10 17:53 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v2 8/8] MDSv2 2 Andi Kleen

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