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From: Xue Liu <liuxuenetmail@gmail.com>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: Jian-Hong Pan <starnight@g.ncu.edu.tw>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-lpwan@lists.infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Dollar Chen <dollar.chen@wtmec.com>,
	Ken Yu <ken.yu@rakwireless.com>,
	linux-wpan - ML <linux-wpan@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/6] net: lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 14:50:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuUDwsypFMEbTXZO+NwQ_FnD1wsO3ZRc3dthZphFGJ-u0n_=Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bfdccbf-fb47-daa5-fbd0-ed16a3d6d334@suse.de>

Hello Andreas,

On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 15:19, Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Xue Liu,
>
> Am 17.12.18 um 09:50 schrieb Xue Liu:
> > I have a question about the architecture of your module. AFAIK LoRaWAN
> > is already the MAC Layer above the LoRa technology. Why do you want to
> > make a new layer called "maclorawan" ?
>
> I had asked Jian-Hong to separate between his soft-MAC implementation
> and the common bits needed to drive hard-MAC implementations found on
> several of the hardware modules made available to me.
>
As a reference Linux 802.11 uses cfg80211 to talk with hard-MAC devices.
We may also use the name “cfglora” for hard-MAC implementation.

> The prefix "mac" was copied from mac80211 and mac802154:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/net
>
OK. Understood. I guess they use mac80211 and mac802154 to distinguish
physical layer and MAC layer. Since LoRa and LoRaWAN are already
separate I think
"maclorawan" is not necessary.

> If you have better ideas for how to structure this, just let us know,
> ideally as inline comment where you see it (or on the cover letter).
>
> Only comment I have for this patch at the moment is that I would prefer
> to have the Kconfig bits be in the patches adding the code, so that we
> can actually build-test them before 6/6.
>
> Been updating my lab to 4.20-rcX with some hiccups. Ben's
> regmap_noinc_write support made it into 4.20, so I expect to have Ben's
> pending branch for sx1301 merged into rebased lora-next before Christmas
> and my sx1276 conversion to follow, leaving the PF_PACKET vs. PF_LORA
> discussion from ELCE - haven't assessed yet how much this series would
> be affected by the underlying changes, but if the abstraction was done
> right then only maclorawan implementation should be affected.
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
> --
> SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
> GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton
> HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
Regards,

Xue Liu


--

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Xue Liu <liuxuenetmail@gmail.com>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Dollar Chen <dollar.chen@wtmec.com>,
	linux-lpwan@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jian-Hong Pan <starnight@g.ncu.edu.tw>,
	Ken Yu <ken.yu@rakwireless.com>,
	linux-wpan - ML <linux-wpan@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/6] net: lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 14:50:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuUDwsypFMEbTXZO+NwQ_FnD1wsO3ZRc3dthZphFGJ-u0n_=Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bfdccbf-fb47-daa5-fbd0-ed16a3d6d334@suse.de>

Hello Andreas,

On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 15:19, Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Xue Liu,
>
> Am 17.12.18 um 09:50 schrieb Xue Liu:
> > I have a question about the architecture of your module. AFAIK LoRaWAN
> > is already the MAC Layer above the LoRa technology. Why do you want to
> > make a new layer called "maclorawan" ?
>
> I had asked Jian-Hong to separate between his soft-MAC implementation
> and the common bits needed to drive hard-MAC implementations found on
> several of the hardware modules made available to me.
>
As a reference Linux 802.11 uses cfg80211 to talk with hard-MAC devices.
We may also use the name “cfglora” for hard-MAC implementation.

> The prefix "mac" was copied from mac80211 and mac802154:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/net
>
OK. Understood. I guess they use mac80211 and mac802154 to distinguish
physical layer and MAC layer. Since LoRa and LoRaWAN are already
separate I think
"maclorawan" is not necessary.

> If you have better ideas for how to structure this, just let us know,
> ideally as inline comment where you see it (or on the cover letter).
>
> Only comment I have for this patch at the moment is that I would prefer
> to have the Kconfig bits be in the patches adding the code, so that we
> can actually build-test them before 6/6.
>
> Been updating my lab to 4.20-rcX with some hiccups. Ben's
> regmap_noinc_write support made it into 4.20, so I expect to have Ben's
> pending branch for sx1301 merged into rebased lora-next before Christmas
> and my sx1276 conversion to follow, leaving the PF_PACKET vs. PF_LORA
> discussion from ELCE - haven't assessed yet how much this series would
> be affected by the underlying changes, but if the abstraction was done
> right then only maclorawan implementation should be affected.
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
> --
> SUSE Linux GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
> GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton
> HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
Regards,

Xue Liu


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Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23 17:15 [RFC 0/3 net] lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15 ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15 ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15 ` [RFC 1/3 net] lorawan: Add LoRaWAN class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:43   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-23 17:43     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-23 17:43     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-23 17:43     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-24 15:58     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-24 15:58       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-24 15:58       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-09-23 16:40   ` Andreas Färber
2018-09-23 16:40     ` Andreas Färber
2018-09-23 16:40     ` Andreas Färber
2018-09-26 15:52     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-09-26 15:52       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-09-26 15:52       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 0/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 1/7] net: lorawan: Add macro and definition for LoRaWAN Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 2/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN socket module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 18:16     ` David Miller
2018-11-05 18:16       ` David Miller
2018-11-06 14:28       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-06 14:28         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 0/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 1/7] net: lorawan: Add macro and definition for LoRaWAN Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:12         ` Andreas Färber
2018-11-14 16:12           ` Andreas Färber
2018-11-17  6:47           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-17  6:47             ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-17  6:47             ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 2/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN socket module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-17  4:32         ` David Miller
2018-11-17  4:32           ` David Miller
2018-11-17 14:54           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-17 14:54             ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 0/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13               ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 1/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN socket module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13               ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 2/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN API declaration for LoRa devices Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13               ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 3/6] net: maclorawan: Add maclorawan module declaration Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13               ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 4/6] net: maclorawan: Implement the crypto of maclorawan module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13               ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 5/6] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13               ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 20:45               ` Alan Cox
2018-12-04 20:45                 ` Alan Cox
2018-12-04 20:45                 ` Alan Cox
2018-12-09  8:27                 ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-09  8:27                   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 0/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN soft MAC module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-17 13:51                     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-12-17 13:51                       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 1/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN socket module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-29  7:27                     ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-29  7:27                       ` Andreas Färber
2019-01-07 14:47                       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2019-01-07 14:47                         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2019-01-07 14:47                         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2019-01-13 14:51                         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2019-01-13 14:51                           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2019-01-13 14:51                           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 2/6] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN API declaration for LoRa devices Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 3/6] net: maclorawan: Add maclorawan module declaration Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 4/6] net: maclorawan: Implement the crypto of maclorawan module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                   ` [PATCH v5 5/6] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:18                     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-17 14:02                     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-12-17 14:02                       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-12-18 14:27                       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-18 14:27                         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-18 14:27                         ` Jiri Pirko
2018-12-18 14:27                           ` Jiri Pirko
2018-12-18 15:34                           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-18 15:34                             ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-18 18:49                         ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-18 18:49                           ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-19 11:27                           ` Ben Whitten
2018-12-19 11:27                             ` Ben Whitten
2018-12-19 11:27                             ` Ben Whitten
2018-12-19 16:26                             ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-19 16:26                               ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-20  9:20                               ` Xue Liu
2018-12-20 16:00                                 ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-28  8:11                                   ` Netlink userspace tools for LoRa(WAN), FSK, Sigfox, BLE, etc. (was: [PATCH v5 5/6] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module) Andreas Färber
2018-12-28 15:49                                     ` Alexander Aring
2018-12-20 10:19                               ` [PATCH v5 5/6] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Ben Whitten
2018-12-20 10:19                                 ` Ben Whitten
2018-12-20 15:31                                 ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-20 15:31                                   ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-20 15:31                                   ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-16 10:19                   ` [PATCH v5 6/6] net: lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-16 10:19                     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-17  8:50                     ` Xue Liu
2018-12-17  8:50                       ` Xue Liu
2018-12-17 14:19                       ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-17 14:19                         ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-18 13:50                         ` Xue Liu [this message]
2018-12-18 13:50                           ` Xue Liu
2018-12-24 15:32                           ` Alexander Aring
2018-12-24 15:32                             ` Alexander Aring
2018-12-28  4:57                             ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-28  4:57                               ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-28 15:43                               ` Alexander Aring
2018-12-28 15:43                                 ` Alexander Aring
2018-12-29  6:28                                 ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-29  6:28                                   ` Andreas Färber
2018-12-04 14:13             ` [PATCH V4 " Jian-Hong Pan
2018-12-04 14:13               ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 3/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN API declaration for LoRa devices Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 4/7] net: maclorawan: Add maclorawan module declaration Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-17  4:32         ` David Miller
2018-11-17  4:32           ` David Miller
2018-11-17  6:32           ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-17  6:32             ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 5/7] net: maclorawan: Implement the crypto of maclorawan module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 6/7] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01       ` [PATCH V3 7/7] net: lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-14 16:01         ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 3/7] net: lorawan: Add LoRaWAN API declaration for LoRa devices Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 4/7] net: maclorawan: Add maclorawan module declaration Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 5/7] net: maclorawan: Implement the crypto of maclorawan module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 6/7] net: maclorawan: Implement maclorawan class module Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55   ` [PATCH V2 7/7] net: lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig Jian-Hong Pan
2018-11-05 16:55     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15 ` [RFC 2/3 net] lorawan: Add macro and definition for LoRaWAN class modlue Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-09-23 16:06   ` Andreas Färber
2018-09-23 16:06     ` Andreas Färber
2018-09-23 16:06     ` Andreas Färber
2018-09-26 14:46     ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-09-26 14:46       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-09-26 14:46       ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15 ` [RFC 3/3 net] lorawan: List LORAWAN in menuconfig Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15   ` Jian-Hong Pan
2018-08-23 17:15   ` Jian-Hong Pan

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