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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Intel Graphics Development" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm, notifier: Catch sleeping/blocking for !blockable
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:34:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uGuH_Lvzf+M3Vast-RFS6Dr70F+Q4U_aSHuR1TpJg02SQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190820152712.GH29246@ziepe.ca>

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 9:33 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 05:18:10PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/mm/mmu_notifier.c b/mm/mmu_notifier.c
> > > > index 538d3bb87f9b..856636d06ee0 100644
> > > > +++ b/mm/mmu_notifier.c
> > > > @@ -181,7 +181,13 @@ int __mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start(struct mmu_notifier_range *range)
> > > >   id = srcu_read_lock(&srcu);
> > > >   hlist_for_each_entry_rcu(mn, &range->mm->mmu_notifier_mm->list, hlist) {
> > > >           if (mn->ops->invalidate_range_start) {
> > > > -                 int _ret = mn->ops->invalidate_range_start(mn, range);
> > > > +                 int _ret;
> > > > +
> > > > +                 if (!mmu_notifier_range_blockable(range))
> > > > +                         non_block_start();
> > > > +                 _ret = mn->ops->invalidate_range_start(mn, range);
> > > > +                 if (!mmu_notifier_range_blockable(range))
> > > > +                         non_block_end();
> > >
> > > If someone Acks all the sched changes then I can pick this for
> > > hmm.git, but I still think the existing pre-emption debugging is fine
> > > for this use case.
> >
> > Ok, I'll ping Peter Z. for an ack, iirc he was involved.
> >
> > > Also, same comment as for the lockdep map, this needs to apply to the
> > > non-blocking range_end also.
> >
> > Hm, I thought the page table locks we're holding there already prevent any
> > sleeping, so would be redundant?
>
> AFAIK no. All callers of invalidate_range_start/end pairs do so a few
> lines apart and don't change their locking in between - thus since
> start can block so can end.
>
> Would love to know if that is not true??

Yeah I reviewed them, I think I mixed up a discussion I had a while
ago with Jerome. It's a bit tricky to follow in the code since in some
places ->invalidate_range and ->invalidate_range_end seem to be called
from the same place, in others not at all.

> Similarly I've also been idly wondering if we should add a
> 'might_sleep()' to invalidate_rangestart/end() to make this constraint
> clear & tested to the mm side?

Hm, sounds like a useful idea. Since in general you wont test with mmu
notifiers, but they could happen, and then they will block for at
least some mutex usually. I'll throw that as an idea on top for the
next round.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Intel Graphics Development" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm, notifier: Catch sleeping/blocking for !blockable
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:34:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uGuH_Lvzf+M3Vast-RFS6Dr70F+Q4U_aSHuR1TpJg02SQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190820152712.GH29246@ziepe.ca>

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 9:33 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 05:18:10PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/mm/mmu_notifier.c b/mm/mmu_notifier.c
> > > > index 538d3bb87f9b..856636d06ee0 100644
> > > > +++ b/mm/mmu_notifier.c
> > > > @@ -181,7 +181,13 @@ int __mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start(struct mmu_notifier_range *range)
> > > >   id = srcu_read_lock(&srcu);
> > > >   hlist_for_each_entry_rcu(mn, &range->mm->mmu_notifier_mm->list, hlist) {
> > > >           if (mn->ops->invalidate_range_start) {
> > > > -                 int _ret = mn->ops->invalidate_range_start(mn, range);
> > > > +                 int _ret;
> > > > +
> > > > +                 if (!mmu_notifier_range_blockable(range))
> > > > +                         non_block_start();
> > > > +                 _ret = mn->ops->invalidate_range_start(mn, range);
> > > > +                 if (!mmu_notifier_range_blockable(range))
> > > > +                         non_block_end();
> > >
> > > If someone Acks all the sched changes then I can pick this for
> > > hmm.git, but I still think the existing pre-emption debugging is fine
> > > for this use case.
> >
> > Ok, I'll ping Peter Z. for an ack, iirc he was involved.
> >
> > > Also, same comment as for the lockdep map, this needs to apply to the
> > > non-blocking range_end also.
> >
> > Hm, I thought the page table locks we're holding there already prevent any
> > sleeping, so would be redundant?
>
> AFAIK no. All callers of invalidate_range_start/end pairs do so a few
> lines apart and don't change their locking in between - thus since
> start can block so can end.
>
> Would love to know if that is not true??

Yeah I reviewed them, I think I mixed up a discussion I had a while
ago with Jerome. It's a bit tricky to follow in the code since in some
places ->invalidate_range and ->invalidate_range_end seem to be called
from the same place, in others not at all.

> Similarly I've also been idly wondering if we should add a
> 'might_sleep()' to invalidate_rangestart/end() to make this constraint
> clear & tested to the mm side?

Hm, sounds like a useful idea. Since in general you wont test with mmu
notifiers, but they could happen, and then they will block for at
least some mutex usually. I'll throw that as an idea on top for the
next round.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-21  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-20  8:18 [PATCH 0/4] mmu notifier debug annotations/checks Daniel Vetter
2019-08-20  8:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm, notifier: Add a lockdep map for invalidate_range_start/end Daniel Vetter
2019-08-20 13:31   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-20  8:19 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm, notifier: Prime lockdep Daniel Vetter
2019-08-20 13:31   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-20  8:19 ` [PATCH 3/4] kernel.h: Add non_block_start/end() Daniel Vetter
2019-08-20  8:19   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-20 20:24   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-20 20:24     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-22 23:14     ` Andrew Morton
2019-08-22 23:14       ` Andrew Morton
2019-08-23  8:34       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-23  8:34         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-23 12:12         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-23 12:12           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-23 12:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-23 12:22             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-23 13:42           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-23 13:42             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-23 14:06             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-23 14:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-23 15:15               ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-23 15:15                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-23  8:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-23  8:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-20  8:19 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm, notifier: Catch sleeping/blocking for !blockable Daniel Vetter
2019-08-20 13:34   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-20 15:18     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-20 15:27       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-21  9:34         ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2019-08-21  9:34           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-21 15:41       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-21 15:41         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-21 16:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-22  8:42           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-22  8:42             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-22 14:24             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-22 14:27               ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-22 14:27                 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-20 11:15 ` ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for mmu notifier debug annotations/checks Patchwork
2019-08-20 12:33 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2019-08-20 18:14 ` ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure " Patchwork

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