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From: "jonsmirl@gmail.com" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: joeypabalinas@gmail.com, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	dreamingforward@gmail.com, fche@redhat.com, riel@surriel.com,
	ec429@cantab.net, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 20:24:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKON4OxCpCMETfg087wV+ZQ3ssA7eDA8gBSxMYFL9ykVfEGwww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180922000521.u373eysq6dogcdfo@gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 8:05 PM Joey Pabalinas <joeypabalinas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 07:31:05PM -0400, jonsmirl@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:17 PM Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > People can decide who they want to respond to, but I'm going to gently
> > > suggest that before people think about responding to a particular
> > > e-mail, that they do a quick check using "git log --author=xyzzy@example.com"
> > > then decide how much someone appears to be a member of the community
> > > before deciding how and whether their thoughts are relevant.
> >
> > How does this part apply to email addresses used to commit code?
> >
> > * Publishing others’ private information, such as a physical or electronic
> > address, without explicit permission
> >
> > It appears to me that this would conflict with the GPL since the GPL
> > granted the right to distribute (or even print it in a book) Linux and
> > Linux contains email addresses.  This also seems contradictory with
> > the Reply button I used to send this email.
>
> I don't really think email addresses used in patches which are sent,
> voluntarily, to a public mailing list are something you can sanely
> consider "private information".
>
> > How do you reconcile working on a public project while keeping email
> > address secret?
>
> This is a little more delicate, and I admit that I can't really
> think of any real solutions for this part...

I would propose adding a statement to clarify that Linux is a public
project and because of this things like names and email addresses of
people working on the project are public information. I don't see how
any other position is viable since it appears to be a GPL conflict.

But... it this bothers you, simply don't use your private, personal
email address when working on the kernel. Anyone with the skills to
work on the kernel should know enough to be able to create email
aliases. No rule says you have to use your real name either.

Aliases have been used in the past, search through the logs and you
will find a few commits from 'anonymous'. However, commits from
anonymous sources have to go through extra layers of review since the
identity of the contributor and their reputation is unknown.

If someone is using an email alias and has their hidden, true address
published then that would be a CoC violation. Although if you mess up
and submit a patch using your hidden identity, you just published it
and it is no longer hidden.


>
> --
> Cheers,
> Joey Pabalinas



-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-22  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-19  6:00 Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it Edward Cree
2018-09-19 14:18 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-09-19 23:35   ` Edward Cree
2018-09-20  1:16     ` Olof Johansson
2018-09-20  2:14       ` Edward Cree
2018-09-21  1:48         ` Rik van Riel
2018-09-21  2:16           ` unixing
2018-09-21 13:07           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2018-09-21 16:34             ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-21 23:15               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-21 23:20                 ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-21 23:31                 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-21 23:59                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-24 18:59                     ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-24 19:45                       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-25  2:24                         ` gratuitouslicensesarerevocable
2018-09-25 17:14                         ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-26  0:41                           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-26 19:34                             ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-26 20:55                               ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-28 18:34                                 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-28 15:56                             ` Alan Cox
2018-09-28 19:38                               ` jonsmirl
2018-09-29 12:44                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-29 12:46                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-22  0:05                   ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-22  0:24                     ` jonsmirl [this message]
2018-09-24 17:43                       ` Max Filippov
2018-09-24 18:07                         ` jonsmirl
2018-09-23 18:44                 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-25 23:48                 ` Michael Woods
2018-09-24 17:25             ` unconditionedwitness
2018-09-25 11:28         ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-25 12:36           ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-25 13:13             ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-25 13:41               ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-25 17:38                 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-25 13:28             ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-26 10:24               ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-25 15:14             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-25 22:30               ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-26 11:17               ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-20  3:07       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-20  4:18       ` Willy Tarreau
2018-09-20  9:27         ` unconditionedwitness
2018-09-20 22:57           ` Edward Cree
2018-09-23 14:50             ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-23 18:41             ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-24 17:21             ` unconditionedwitness
     [not found]               ` <c61eb2d545150d46428f4bc25843cd58@redchan.it>
     [not found]                 ` <201809241941.44460.dr.klepp@gmx.at>
     [not found]                   ` <20180924204809.GK23968@linuxmafia.com>
2018-09-25  2:09                     ` [DNG] Fwd: " gratuitouslicensesarerevocable
2018-09-20  9:29         ` unconditionedwitness
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-09-20 21:18 Christoph Conrads
2018-09-21  8:09 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-21 11:36   ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-17 11:48 Lukas Wunner
2018-09-17 12:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-09-18 19:16   ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-19 10:30     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-18 20:16   ` Lukas Wunner
     [not found]     ` <61b4a3f9-ccd1-061c-1c1b-ec993b056c66@bosch-fellbach.de>
2018-09-20 10:57       ` Lukas Wunner

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