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From: "\\0xDynamite" <dreamingforward@gmail.com>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Edward Cree <ec429@cantab.net>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:34:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMjeLr-mWag=iO=CoNHeK9pkCu4y6vZUp03_zpJOG+e=n85j+g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zhwbj8xe.fsf@redhat.com>

Ahem...

Of course, the linux community, like ALL communities, needs more
political correctness, because we wouldn't want others to feel left
out merely because they are wrong.   FALSE || TRUE = more
participation and diversity!

>Our Pledge
>In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as
>contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and
>our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body
>size, disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and
>expression, level of experience, education, socio-economic status, nationality,
>personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.

As soon as you start to enumerate a list of communities that you're
including, you have set yourself up for failure, because you will,
LOGICALLY, leave out an endless number of groups that could
conceivably want to participate, too:  necrophiliacs (NO harm, NO
foul!), small animal lovers, balloon sculpturers, magicians, etc.
These people may feel ostracized when trying to participate, too.

No, all you need to do is say that everyone are invited to
participate, but that this is a kernel development community -- you
are expected to be able to code in C (is that exclusory?), know some
OS theory, done some research, etc. before bothering the participants
of the list, who do not have endless amounts of time.

Our Standards
=============

Examples of behavior that contributes to creating a positive environment
include:

>* Using welcoming and inclusive language

Something like:

Hello, thank you for contributing your code.  Of course, we'd love to
add your recipe for fruit cake into our code base.

>* Being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences

Consider:
I respect that you think we should make linux include gay and
lesbian-friendly (or other minority group) themed fonts and logos,

>* Focusing on what is best for the community

When the community is made infinitely large, we'll be PERFECT!

>* Showing empathy towards other community members

Your pussy hurts?  Maybe you should have just accepted that your a boy!

I think Linus is perfectly fine in conduct.   I mean, this bullshit
pressure comes from corporations and other wierd places (<subtext>all
seeing eye</subtext>) that want to "help".  Do not even be fooled that
this is somehow become the accepted standard that EVERYONE BUT YOU is
accepting.  It is utterly political and based on POWER, not community.

Please, most of these people are still sitting on land that belonged
to the Native Americans who have never been given justice at all.  It
is an utter joke that these people actually think that they are
"politically correct".  They are as delusional as gunnuts who want to
carry assault rifles into Walmart.  Do not pander to them.  Consider
them TROLLS.

Mark Janssen

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-21 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-19  6:00 Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it Edward Cree
2018-09-19 14:18 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-09-19 23:35   ` Edward Cree
2018-09-20  1:16     ` Olof Johansson
2018-09-20  2:14       ` Edward Cree
2018-09-21  1:48         ` Rik van Riel
2018-09-21  2:16           ` unixing
2018-09-21 13:07           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2018-09-21 16:34             ` \0xDynamite [this message]
2018-09-21 23:15               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-21 23:20                 ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-21 23:31                 ` jonsmirl
2018-09-21 23:59                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-24 18:59                     ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-24 19:45                       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-25  2:24                         ` gratuitouslicensesarerevocable
2018-09-25 17:14                         ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-26  0:41                           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-09-26 19:34                             ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-26 20:55                               ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-28 18:34                                 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-28 15:56                             ` Alan Cox
2018-09-28 19:38                               ` jonsmirl
2018-09-29 12:44                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-29 12:46                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-22  0:05                   ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-09-22  0:24                     ` jonsmirl
2018-09-24 17:43                       ` Max Filippov
2018-09-24 18:07                         ` jonsmirl
2018-09-23 18:44                 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-25 23:48                 ` Michael Woods
2018-09-24 17:25             ` unconditionedwitness
2018-09-25 11:28         ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-25 12:36           ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-25 13:13             ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-25 13:41               ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-25 17:38                 ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-25 13:28             ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-26 10:24               ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-25 15:14             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-25 22:30               ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-09-26 11:17               ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-20  3:07       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-20  4:18       ` Willy Tarreau
2018-09-20  9:27         ` unconditionedwitness
2018-09-20 22:57           ` Edward Cree
2018-09-23 14:50             ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-23 18:41             ` \0xDynamite
2018-09-24 17:21             ` unconditionedwitness
     [not found]               ` <c61eb2d545150d46428f4bc25843cd58@redchan.it>
     [not found]                 ` <201809241941.44460.dr.klepp@gmx.at>
     [not found]                   ` <20180924204809.GK23968@linuxmafia.com>
2018-09-25  2:09                     ` [DNG] Fwd: " gratuitouslicensesarerevocable
2018-09-20  9:29         ` unconditionedwitness
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-09-20 21:18 Christoph Conrads
2018-09-21  8:09 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-21 11:36   ` Christoph Conrads
2018-09-17 11:48 Lukas Wunner
2018-09-17 12:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-09-18 19:16   ` Pavel Machek
2018-09-19 10:30     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-18 20:16   ` Lukas Wunner
     [not found]     ` <61b4a3f9-ccd1-061c-1c1b-ec993b056c66@bosch-fellbach.de>
2018-09-20 10:57       ` Lukas Wunner

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