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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
Cc: "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Todd Poynor <toddpoynor@google.com>,
	"Srivatsa S . Bhat" <srivatsa@mit.edu>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] cpufreq: Simplify and fix mutual exclusion with hotplug
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 14:18:26 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKohpomuo-=fox=1rNZOgvy+COyWYexcP2J9NRFJqmTK6MLOjA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1405464473-3916-3-git-send-email-skannan@codeaurora.org>

On 16 July 2014 04:17, Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org> wrote:

Again, just too many things in a single patch. That's not acceptable.
Few of these might be bug fixes, which must go in before any other updates.
And so it must have been added as first patch.

Even the other stuff you are trying to fix (by checking policy->cpus) should go
before 1/2, otherwise 1/2 will actually break things inbetween, i.e. show values
even when no CPUs of a cluster are online.

> Since we no longer alloc and destroy/freeze policy and sysfs nodes during
> hotplug and suspend, we don't need to lock sysfs with hotplug. We can
> achieve the same effect by checking if policy->cpus is empty.

Are you talking about the changes in store()?

> Hotplug mutual exclusion was only done for sysfs writes. But reads need the
> same protection too.  So, this patch adds that too.

How? How is checking for policy->cpus enough?

> Also, cpufreq driver (un)register can race with hotplug since CPU online
> state can change between adding/removing the currently online devices and
> registering/unregistering for hotplug notifiers. So, fix that by
> registering for hotplug notifiers first before adding devices and
> unregistering from hotplug notifiers first before removing devices.

Couldn't get it, tell us an example race and what will go wrong due to it.
Also this should have had a separate patch for itself.

> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
> ---
>  drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c | 44 ++++++++++++++++++++------------------------
>  1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c b/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> index a0a2ec2..f72b2b7 100644
> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> @@ -748,17 +748,18 @@ static ssize_t show(struct kobject *kobj, struct attribute *attr, char *buf)
>  {
>         struct cpufreq_policy *policy = to_policy(kobj);
>         struct freq_attr *fattr = to_attr(attr);
> -       ssize_t ret;
> +       ssize_t ret = -EINVAL;
>
>         if (!down_read_trylock(&cpufreq_rwsem))
> -               return -EINVAL;
> -
> +               return ret;
>         down_read(&policy->rwsem);
>
> -       if (fattr->show)
> -               ret = fattr->show(policy, buf);
> -       else
> -               ret = -EIO;
> +       if (!cpumask_empty(policy->cpus)) {
> +               if (fattr->show)
> +                       ret = fattr->show(policy, buf);
> +               else
> +                       ret = -EIO;
> +       }

Makes sense upto this point.

>         up_read(&policy->rwsem);
>         up_read(&cpufreq_rwsem);
> @@ -773,26 +774,19 @@ static ssize_t store(struct kobject *kobj, struct attribute *attr,
>         struct freq_attr *fattr = to_attr(attr);
>         ssize_t ret = -EINVAL;
>
> -       get_online_cpus();
> -
> -       if (!cpu_online(policy->cpu))
> -               goto unlock;
> -

@Srivatsa: what do you say?

>         if (!down_read_trylock(&cpufreq_rwsem))
> -               goto unlock;
> -
> +               return ret;
>         down_write(&policy->rwsem);
>
> -       if (fattr->store)
> -               ret = fattr->store(policy, buf, count);
> -       else
> -               ret = -EIO;
> +       if (!cpumask_empty(policy->cpus)) {
> +               if (fattr->store)
> +                       ret = fattr->store(policy, buf, count);
> +               else
> +                       ret = -EIO;
> +       }
>
>         up_write(&policy->rwsem);
> -
>         up_read(&cpufreq_rwsem);
> -unlock:
> -       put_online_cpus();
>
>         return ret;
>  }
> @@ -2270,6 +2264,8 @@ int cpufreq_register_driver(struct cpufreq_driver *driver_data)
>                 }
>         }
>
> +       register_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
> +
>         ret = subsys_interface_register(&cpufreq_interface);
>         if (ret)
>                 goto err_boost_unreg;
> @@ -2293,13 +2289,13 @@ int cpufreq_register_driver(struct cpufreq_driver *driver_data)
>                 }
>         }
>
> -       register_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
>         pr_debug("driver %s up and running\n", driver_data->name);
>
>         return 0;
>  err_if_unreg:
>         subsys_interface_unregister(&cpufreq_interface);
>  err_boost_unreg:
> +       unregister_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
>         if (cpufreq_boost_supported())
>                 cpufreq_sysfs_remove_file(&boost.attr);
>  err_null_driver:
> @@ -2327,12 +2323,12 @@ int cpufreq_unregister_driver(struct cpufreq_driver *driver)
>
>         pr_debug("unregistering driver %s\n", driver->name);
>
> +       unregister_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
> +
>         subsys_interface_unregister(&cpufreq_interface);
>         if (cpufreq_boost_supported())
>                 cpufreq_sysfs_remove_file(&boost.attr);
>
> -       unregister_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
> -
>         down_write(&cpufreq_rwsem);
>         write_lock_irqsave(&cpufreq_driver_lock, flags);

Normally the order of register/unregister should be just opposite.
Isn't that true here? Yeah, it was broken earlier as well...

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: viresh.kumar@linaro.org (Viresh Kumar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 2/2] cpufreq: Simplify and fix mutual exclusion with hotplug
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 14:18:26 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKohpomuo-=fox=1rNZOgvy+COyWYexcP2J9NRFJqmTK6MLOjA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1405464473-3916-3-git-send-email-skannan@codeaurora.org>

On 16 July 2014 04:17, Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org> wrote:

Again, just too many things in a single patch. That's not acceptable.
Few of these might be bug fixes, which must go in before any other updates.
And so it must have been added as first patch.

Even the other stuff you are trying to fix (by checking policy->cpus) should go
before 1/2, otherwise 1/2 will actually break things inbetween, i.e. show values
even when no CPUs of a cluster are online.

> Since we no longer alloc and destroy/freeze policy and sysfs nodes during
> hotplug and suspend, we don't need to lock sysfs with hotplug. We can
> achieve the same effect by checking if policy->cpus is empty.

Are you talking about the changes in store()?

> Hotplug mutual exclusion was only done for sysfs writes. But reads need the
> same protection too.  So, this patch adds that too.

How? How is checking for policy->cpus enough?

> Also, cpufreq driver (un)register can race with hotplug since CPU online
> state can change between adding/removing the currently online devices and
> registering/unregistering for hotplug notifiers. So, fix that by
> registering for hotplug notifiers first before adding devices and
> unregistering from hotplug notifiers first before removing devices.

Couldn't get it, tell us an example race and what will go wrong due to it.
Also this should have had a separate patch for itself.

> Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
> ---
>  drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c | 44 ++++++++++++++++++++------------------------
>  1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c b/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> index a0a2ec2..f72b2b7 100644
> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c
> @@ -748,17 +748,18 @@ static ssize_t show(struct kobject *kobj, struct attribute *attr, char *buf)
>  {
>         struct cpufreq_policy *policy = to_policy(kobj);
>         struct freq_attr *fattr = to_attr(attr);
> -       ssize_t ret;
> +       ssize_t ret = -EINVAL;
>
>         if (!down_read_trylock(&cpufreq_rwsem))
> -               return -EINVAL;
> -
> +               return ret;
>         down_read(&policy->rwsem);
>
> -       if (fattr->show)
> -               ret = fattr->show(policy, buf);
> -       else
> -               ret = -EIO;
> +       if (!cpumask_empty(policy->cpus)) {
> +               if (fattr->show)
> +                       ret = fattr->show(policy, buf);
> +               else
> +                       ret = -EIO;
> +       }

Makes sense upto this point.

>         up_read(&policy->rwsem);
>         up_read(&cpufreq_rwsem);
> @@ -773,26 +774,19 @@ static ssize_t store(struct kobject *kobj, struct attribute *attr,
>         struct freq_attr *fattr = to_attr(attr);
>         ssize_t ret = -EINVAL;
>
> -       get_online_cpus();
> -
> -       if (!cpu_online(policy->cpu))
> -               goto unlock;
> -

@Srivatsa: what do you say?

>         if (!down_read_trylock(&cpufreq_rwsem))
> -               goto unlock;
> -
> +               return ret;
>         down_write(&policy->rwsem);
>
> -       if (fattr->store)
> -               ret = fattr->store(policy, buf, count);
> -       else
> -               ret = -EIO;
> +       if (!cpumask_empty(policy->cpus)) {
> +               if (fattr->store)
> +                       ret = fattr->store(policy, buf, count);
> +               else
> +                       ret = -EIO;
> +       }
>
>         up_write(&policy->rwsem);
> -
>         up_read(&cpufreq_rwsem);
> -unlock:
> -       put_online_cpus();
>
>         return ret;
>  }
> @@ -2270,6 +2264,8 @@ int cpufreq_register_driver(struct cpufreq_driver *driver_data)
>                 }
>         }
>
> +       register_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
> +
>         ret = subsys_interface_register(&cpufreq_interface);
>         if (ret)
>                 goto err_boost_unreg;
> @@ -2293,13 +2289,13 @@ int cpufreq_register_driver(struct cpufreq_driver *driver_data)
>                 }
>         }
>
> -       register_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
>         pr_debug("driver %s up and running\n", driver_data->name);
>
>         return 0;
>  err_if_unreg:
>         subsys_interface_unregister(&cpufreq_interface);
>  err_boost_unreg:
> +       unregister_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
>         if (cpufreq_boost_supported())
>                 cpufreq_sysfs_remove_file(&boost.attr);
>  err_null_driver:
> @@ -2327,12 +2323,12 @@ int cpufreq_unregister_driver(struct cpufreq_driver *driver)
>
>         pr_debug("unregistering driver %s\n", driver->name);
>
> +       unregister_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
> +
>         subsys_interface_unregister(&cpufreq_interface);
>         if (cpufreq_boost_supported())
>                 cpufreq_sysfs_remove_file(&boost.attr);
>
> -       unregister_hotcpu_notifier(&cpufreq_cpu_notifier);
> -
>         down_write(&cpufreq_rwsem);
>         write_lock_irqsave(&cpufreq_driver_lock, flags);

Normally the order of register/unregister should be just opposite.
Isn't that true here? Yeah, it was broken earlier as well...

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-16  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 205+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-10  2:37 [PATCH] cpufreq: Don't destroy/realloc policy/sysfs on hotplug/suspend Saravana Kannan
2014-07-10  2:37 ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-11  4:18 ` [PATCH v2] " Saravana Kannan
2014-07-11  4:18   ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-11  6:19   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-11  6:19     ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-11  6:19     ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-11  9:59     ` skannan
2014-07-11  9:59       ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2014-07-11  9:59       ` skannan
2014-07-11 10:07       ` skannan
2014-07-11 10:07         ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2014-07-11 10:07         ` skannan
2014-07-11 10:52       ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-11 10:52         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-11 10:52         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-12  2:44         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-12  2:44           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-12  2:44           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-14  6:09           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-14  6:09             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-14  6:09             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-14 19:08             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-14 19:08               ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-14 19:08               ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-15  4:35               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-15  4:35                 ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-15  4:35                 ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-15  5:36                 ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-15  5:36                   ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-15  5:36                   ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-15  5:52                   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-15  5:52                     ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-15  5:52                     ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-15  6:58                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-15  6:58                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-15  6:58                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-15 17:35                     ` skannan
2014-07-15 17:35                       ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2014-07-15 17:35                       ` skannan
2014-07-16  7:44                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16  7:44                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16  7:44                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16  5:44                     ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16  5:44                       ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16  5:44                       ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16  7:49                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16  7:49                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16  7:49                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-12  3:06     ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-12  3:06       ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-12  3:06       ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-14  6:13       ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-14  6:13         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-14  6:13         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-14 19:10         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-14 19:10           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-14 19:10           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-11  7:43   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-11  7:43     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-11 10:02     ` skannan
2014-07-11 10:02       ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2014-07-15 22:47   ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Simplify hotplug/suspend handling Saravana Kannan
2014-07-15 22:47     ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-15 22:47     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] cpufreq: Don't destroy/realloc policy/sysfs on hotplug/suspend Saravana Kannan
2014-07-15 22:47       ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16  0:28       ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16  0:28         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16  8:30         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16  8:30           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16  8:30           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 19:19           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:19             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:19             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16  8:24       ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16  8:24         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16  8:24         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 11:16         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16 11:16           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16 11:16           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16 13:13           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 13:13             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 13:13             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 18:04             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16 18:04               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16 18:04               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-07-16 19:56             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:56               ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:56               ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-17  5:51               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-17  5:51                 ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-17  5:51                 ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 19:56           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:56             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:56             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-17  5:35             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-17  5:35               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-17  5:35               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-18  3:25               ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-18  3:25                 ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-18  3:25                 ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-18  4:19                 ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-18  4:19                   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-18  4:19                   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 20:25         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 20:25           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 20:25           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 21:45           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 21:45             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 21:45             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-17  6:24           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-17  6:24             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-17  6:24             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 14:29       ` Dirk Brandewie
2014-07-16 14:29         ` Dirk Brandewie
2014-07-16 15:28         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 15:28           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 15:28           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 19:42           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:42             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:42             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-15 22:47     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cpufreq: Simplify and fix mutual exclusion with hotplug Saravana Kannan
2014-07-15 22:47       ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16  8:48       ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2014-07-16  8:48         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16  8:48         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-16 19:34         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:34           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 19:34           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07     ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Simplify hotplug/suspend handling Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07       ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07       ` [PATCH v4 1/5] cpufreq: Don't wait for CPU to going offline to restart governor Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-31 20:47         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-31 20:47           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07       ` [PATCH v4 2/5] cpufreq: Keep track of which CPU owns the kobj/sysfs nodes separately Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-07  9:02         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07  9:02           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07  9:02           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-25  1:07       ` [PATCH v4 3/5] cpufreq: Don't destroy/realloc policy/sysfs on hotplug/suspend Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-31 21:56         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-31 21:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-31 22:15           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-31 22:15             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-31 23:48           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-31 23:48             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-31 23:48             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-07 10:51           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07 10:51             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07 10:51             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-12  9:17             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-12  9:17               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-12  9:17               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07 10:48         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07 10:48           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07 10:48           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-11 22:13           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-11 22:13             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-11 22:13             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-12  8:51             ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-12  8:51               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-12  8:51               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-25  1:07       ` [PATCH v4 4/5] cpufreq: Properly handle physical CPU hot-add/hot-remove Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-07 11:02         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07 11:02           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07 11:02           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-11 22:15           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-11 22:15             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-11 22:15             ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07       ` [PATCH v4 5/5] cpufreq: Delete dead code related to policy save/restore Saravana Kannan
2014-07-25  1:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-07 11:06         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07 11:06           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-08-07 11:06           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-29  5:52       ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Simplify hotplug/suspend handling skannan
2014-07-29  5:52         ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2014-07-29  5:52         ` skannan
2014-07-30  0:29       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-30  0:29         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-31 20:25         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-31 20:25           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-08-07  6:04         ` skannan
2014-08-07  6:04           ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2014-10-16  8:53       ` Viresh Kumar
2014-10-16  8:53         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-10-16  8:53         ` Viresh Kumar
2014-10-23 21:41         ` Saravana Kannan
2014-10-23 21:41           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-10-23 21:41           ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 22:02 ` [PATCH] cpufreq: Don't destroy/realloc policy/sysfs on hotplug/suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-16 22:02   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-16 22:35   ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-16 22:35     ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-24  3:02   ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-24  3:02     ` Saravana Kannan
2014-07-24  5:04     ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-24  5:04       ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-24  5:04       ` Viresh Kumar
2014-07-24  9:12       ` skannan
2014-07-24  9:12         ` skannan at codeaurora.org
2014-07-24  9:12         ` skannan

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