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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@stackframe.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Claudio Suarez <cssk@net-c.es>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Revert "fbcon: Disable accelerated scrolling"
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:47:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVWFJEDwjf-htZ_D1484efmuPnz_L-qhcTeUE-GVpvZXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yef15k2GtC40aJEu@kroah.com>

Hi Greg,

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:28 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:22:55PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:08:39PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
> > > This reverts commit 39aead8373b3c20bb5965c024dfb51a94e526151.
> > >
> > > Revert this patch.  This patch started to introduce the regression that
> > > all hardware acceleration of more than 35 existing fbdev drivers were
> > > bypassed and thus fbcon console output for those was dramatically slowed
> > > down by factor of 10 and more.
> > >
> > > Reverting this commit has no impact on DRM, since none of the DRM drivers are
> > > tagged with the acceleration flags FBINFO_HWACCEL_COPYAREA,
> > > FBINFO_HWACCEL_FILLRECT or others.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>

> > As for "why", I think there was a number of private bugs that were
> > reported in this code, which is why it was removed.  I do not think it
> > can be safely added back in without addressing them first.  Let me go
> > dig through my email to see if I can find them...
>
> Ah, no, that was just the soft scrollback code I was thinking of, which

So the bugs argument is moot.

> was a different revert and is still gone, thankfully :)

FTR, not everyone else was thankful about that one...

> This one was just removed because Daniel noticed that only 3 drivers
> used this (nouveau, omapdrm, and gma600), so this shouldn't have caused
> any regressions in any other drivers like you are reporting here.
>
> So perhaps this regression is caused by something else?

1. Daniel's patch was not CCed to linux-fbdev,
2. When I discovered the patch, I pointed out that the premise of 3
   drivers was not true, and that it affects 32 more fbdev drivers[1] .
   The patch was applied regardless.
3. When the patch was suggested for backporting, I pointed out the
   same[2].
   The patch was backported regardless.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2010311116530.379363@ramsan.of.borg/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAMuHMdXRgam2zahPEGcw8+76Xm-0AO-Ci9-YmVa5JpTKVHphRw@mail.gmail.com/

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@stackframe.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	Claudio Suarez <cssk@net-c.es>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Revert "fbcon: Disable accelerated scrolling"
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:47:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVWFJEDwjf-htZ_D1484efmuPnz_L-qhcTeUE-GVpvZXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yef15k2GtC40aJEu@kroah.com>

Hi Greg,

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:28 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:22:55PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:08:39PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
> > > This reverts commit 39aead8373b3c20bb5965c024dfb51a94e526151.
> > >
> > > Revert this patch.  This patch started to introduce the regression that
> > > all hardware acceleration of more than 35 existing fbdev drivers were
> > > bypassed and thus fbcon console output for those was dramatically slowed
> > > down by factor of 10 and more.
> > >
> > > Reverting this commit has no impact on DRM, since none of the DRM drivers are
> > > tagged with the acceleration flags FBINFO_HWACCEL_COPYAREA,
> > > FBINFO_HWACCEL_FILLRECT or others.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>

> > As for "why", I think there was a number of private bugs that were
> > reported in this code, which is why it was removed.  I do not think it
> > can be safely added back in without addressing them first.  Let me go
> > dig through my email to see if I can find them...
>
> Ah, no, that was just the soft scrollback code I was thinking of, which

So the bugs argument is moot.

> was a different revert and is still gone, thankfully :)

FTR, not everyone else was thankful about that one...

> This one was just removed because Daniel noticed that only 3 drivers
> used this (nouveau, omapdrm, and gma600), so this shouldn't have caused
> any regressions in any other drivers like you are reporting here.
>
> So perhaps this regression is caused by something else?

1. Daniel's patch was not CCed to linux-fbdev,
2. When I discovered the patch, I pointed out that the premise of 3
   drivers was not true, and that it affects 32 more fbdev drivers[1] .
   The patch was applied regardless.
3. When the patch was suggested for backporting, I pointed out the
   same[2].
   The patch was backported regardless.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2010311116530.379363@ramsan.of.borg/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAMuHMdXRgam2zahPEGcw8+76Xm-0AO-Ci9-YmVa5JpTKVHphRw@mail.gmail.com/

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-19 11:08 [PATCH 0/2] Fix regression introduced by disabling accelerated scrolling in fbcon Helge Deller
2022-01-19 11:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] Revert "fbdev: Garbage collect fbdev scrolling acceleration, part 1 (from TODO list)" Helge Deller
2022-01-19 11:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] Revert "fbcon: Disable accelerated scrolling" Helge Deller
2022-01-19 11:22   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 11:22     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 11:28     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 11:28       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 11:47       ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2022-01-19 11:47         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-19 12:28         ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 12:28           ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 14:01           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-19 14:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-19 14:11             ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 14:11               ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 14:34             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-19 14:34               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-19 15:05               ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-19 15:05                 ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-19 15:37                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-19 15:37                   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-19 16:55                   ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 16:55                     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 15:42                 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-19 15:42                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-19 15:54                   ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 15:54                     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 16:13                     ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-19 16:13                       ` Jani Nikula
2022-01-19 16:31                       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-19 16:31                         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-19 15:18               ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 15:18                 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-19 13:01       ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-19 13:01         ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-19 13:35         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 13:35           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-20 14:30   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 14:30     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-20 17:01     ` Helge Deller
2022-01-21  7:20       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-21  7:20         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-01-24 11:10         ` Helge Deller
2022-01-24 11:10           ` Helge Deller
2022-01-24 11:28           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-24 11:28             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-24 11:33           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-24 11:33             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-24 11:50             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-24 11:50               ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-24 15:29               ` Helge Deller
2022-01-24 15:29                 ` Helge Deller
2022-01-24 15:45                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-24 15:45                   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-24 15:50                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 15:50                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 15:58                 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-24 15:58                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-01-24 15:50             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 15:50               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-24 16:11               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-24 16:11                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-01-19 12:45 ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix regression introduced by disabling accelerated scrolling in fbcon Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-19 12:45   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-19 13:02 ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-19 13:02   ` Sven Schnelle

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