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From: Pascal Schmidt <der.eremit@email.de>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]]
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:56:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1A6aWv-0000rJ-00@neptune.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DIAQ.2Hh.5@gated-at.bofh.it>

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:50:12 +0200, you wrote in linux.kernel:

> That has no bearing on the legalities.  A version of the kernel can't
> force the GPL on a driver that works with that version of the kernel
> because you can pull that driver out and drop in another.

Okay, I can see the boundary. We still have the problem that drivers
writers have to be very careful to not copy kernel code by accident
because the kernel changes often, which creates a temptation to look
closely at in-tree drivers to see how they do things. And if a
drivers writer then produces code that is essentialy the same as is
found in the kernel, only with changed indentation and variable names,
I think we both a agree that such a driver would be a derived work.

Another problem is the fact that Linux kernel headers can contain code
in the form of macros. If a driver uses such a header, it links kernel
code with itself which can easily make it a derived work.

-- 
Ciao,
Pascal

       reply	other threads:[~2003-10-06 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <DIre.Cy.17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <DIre.Cy.19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <DIre.Cy.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <DIAQ.2Hh.5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-06 18:56         ` Pascal Schmidt [this message]
2003-10-06 19:09           ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] David Lang
2003-10-06 20:08           ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-07 10:49             ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-10 12:14               ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-10 12:48                 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-10 13:27                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 12:55               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 13:07                 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-10 13:28                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-06 22:46           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06 23:01             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-07  0:20             ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-07  2:31               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:03 Pascal Schmidt
     [not found] <Dnwo.1ew.15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <DnPL.3XB.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <DsvX.3yN.1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-06 18:28     ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-06 18:38       ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06 21:29         ` Olivier Galibert
2003-10-07  0:56           ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-07  8:40         ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-07  8:56           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:13             ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 10:33               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:44                 ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 11:25                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 14:03                     ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 19:09                       ` David S. Miller
2003-10-07  8:58           ` David S. Miller
2003-10-07 14:16           ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-07 14:48             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-07  8:28       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found] <fa.grj6i7d.lmorqn@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.n320lec.1p4i0gc@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-05 16:44   ` walt
     [not found] <vyRY.6te.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <vzkY.7cC.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-14  9:16   ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-14 17:09     ` Stan Bubrouski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-14  4:37 People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  4:58 ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  5:39   ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  5:32     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  6:41       ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  6:50         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  7:10         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  8:08           ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15  0:17             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15  5:57               ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15  6:14                 ` Nick Piggin
2003-10-05  0:52                 ` Rob Landley
2003-10-05  1:05                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05  2:34                     ` viro
2003-10-05  3:45                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 10:24                         ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 13:56                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 14:14                             ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 10:23                     ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 11:32                       ` David Lang
2003-10-05 13:37                         ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05  6:40                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05  7:39                     ` viro
2003-10-05 18:27                     ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 19:21                       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:03                         ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:14                           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:34                             ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:43                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06  1:22                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06  1:37                                 ` David Lang
2003-10-06  1:51                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 19:32                       ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-05 19:47                         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:38                           ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:46                             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 19:54                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-09-14  8:45           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-15  0:16   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15  0:27     ` Justin Cormack

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