From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> Cc: Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@wizery.com>, <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>, Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>, <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>, Ido Yariv <ido@wizery.com>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com> Subject: Re: [linux-pm] subtle pm_runtime_put_sync race and sdio functions Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:57:48 -0500 (EST) [thread overview] Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1012201946330.19558-100000@netrider.rowland.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <201012202217.09374.rjw@sisk.pl> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > In that case, if a device if flagged as "runtime only", we can avoid > > > calling pm_runtime_get_noirq() for it in dpm_prepare() and, analogously, > > > calling pm_runtime_put_sync() for it in dpm_complete(). However, we will have > > > to fail system suspend (or hibernation) if a "runtime only" device has the > > > power.runtime_auto flag unset. > > > > Or more generally, if pm_runtime_suspended() doesn't return 'true' for > > the device. > > That's not necessary, because the device may be suspended using > pm_runtime_suspend() later than we check pm_runtime_suspended(). What if the device has a child in the RPM_ACTIVE state? Then pm_runtime_suspend() won't do anything, even if the child really is dpm-suspended. > I'd use the "runtime only" (or perhaps better "no_dpm") flag as a declaration > (if set) that the device is going to be suspended with the help of "runtime" > callbacks and the driver takes the responsibility for getting things right. I'm still not sure about this; the design isn't clear. Are these runtime callbacks going to come from the PM core or from the driver? If from the driver, how will the driver know when to issue them? What about coordinating async suspends (the device must be suspended after its children and before its parent)? Alan Stern
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From: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org> To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org> Cc: Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad-Ix1uc/W3ht7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>, linux-pm-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org, Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>, linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-mmc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, Ido Yariv <ido-Ix1uc/W3ht7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>, Kevin Hilman <khilman-1D3HCaltpLuhEniVeURVKkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org> Subject: Re: [linux-pm] subtle pm_runtime_put_sync race and sdio functions Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:57:48 -0500 (EST) [thread overview] Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1012201946330.19558-100000@netrider.rowland.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <201012202217.09374.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org> On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > In that case, if a device if flagged as "runtime only", we can avoid > > > calling pm_runtime_get_noirq() for it in dpm_prepare() and, analogously, > > > calling pm_runtime_put_sync() for it in dpm_complete(). However, we will have > > > to fail system suspend (or hibernation) if a "runtime only" device has the > > > power.runtime_auto flag unset. > > > > Or more generally, if pm_runtime_suspended() doesn't return 'true' for > > the device. > > That's not necessary, because the device may be suspended using > pm_runtime_suspend() later than we check pm_runtime_suspended(). What if the device has a child in the RPM_ACTIVE state? Then pm_runtime_suspend() won't do anything, even if the child really is dpm-suspended. > I'd use the "runtime only" (or perhaps better "no_dpm") flag as a declaration > (if set) that the device is going to be suspended with the help of "runtime" > callbacks and the driver takes the responsibility for getting things right. I'm still not sure about this; the design isn't clear. Are these runtime callbacks going to come from the PM core or from the driver? If from the driver, how will the driver know when to issue them? What about coordinating async suspends (the device must be suspended after its children and before its parent)? Alan Stern -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-21 0:57 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 179+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2010-12-09 23:37 subtle pm_runtime_put_sync race and sdio functions Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-10 0:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-10 0:00 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-10 17:24 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-10 17:24 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2010-12-10 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-10 22:01 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-10 23:02 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-10 23:02 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-10 22:59 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-10 22:59 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-11 1:17 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-11 14:53 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-11 1:17 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-11 14:50 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-18 13:29 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 13:29 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 14:16 ` David Vrabel 2010-12-18 15:12 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 15:12 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 14:16 ` David Vrabel 2010-12-18 15:07 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 16:00 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 16:00 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 16:40 ` Johannes Berg 2010-12-18 19:08 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 19:08 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 21:30 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-18 21:30 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-18 22:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 22:57 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 21:30 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-18 22:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 22:52 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 19:08 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 21:29 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2010-12-18 21:29 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-18 21:29 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-18 22:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 22:50 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 16:40 ` Johannes Berg 2010-12-18 22:47 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 22:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-19 7:48 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-19 7:48 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-19 7:48 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-19 10:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-19 10:22 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-20 3:37 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-20 3:37 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-20 21:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-21 0:57 ` Alan Stern [this message] 2010-12-21 0:57 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-21 21:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-22 1:42 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-22 1:42 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-22 12:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-22 12:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2011-01-26 23:28 ` Kevin Hilman 2011-01-26 23:28 ` Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 18:13 ` Alan Stern 2011-01-27 18:13 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2011-01-27 18:13 ` Alan Stern 2011-01-27 19:22 ` Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 19:22 ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 19:22 ` Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 19:49 ` Alan Stern 2011-01-27 19:49 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2011-01-27 19:49 ` Alan Stern 2011-01-27 20:15 ` Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 20:15 ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 20:15 ` Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 22:18 ` Vitaly Wool 2011-01-27 22:18 ` Vitaly Wool 2011-01-27 22:18 ` Vitaly Wool 2011-01-27 23:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2011-01-27 23:21 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2011-01-27 23:49 ` Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 23:49 ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 23:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2011-01-27 23:11 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2011-01-27 18:20 ` Vitaly Wool 2011-01-27 18:20 ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool 2011-01-27 18:20 ` Vitaly Wool 2011-01-27 18:54 ` Kevin Hilman 2011-01-27 18:54 ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman 2010-12-22 12:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-22 1:42 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-21 21:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-21 0:57 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-20 21:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-20 3:37 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-21 22:23 ` Kevin Hilman 2010-12-21 22:23 ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman 2010-12-22 1:48 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-22 1:48 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-22 1:48 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-23 7:51 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-23 7:51 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-23 16:03 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-23 16:03 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2010-12-23 16:03 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-25 7:34 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-25 7:34 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-25 16:21 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-25 16:21 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-25 20:58 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-25 20:58 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-25 20:58 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-25 21:50 ` Vitaly Wool 2010-12-25 21:50 ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool 2010-12-26 5:27 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 5:27 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-25 21:54 ` Vitaly Wool 2010-12-25 21:54 ` Vitaly Wool 2010-12-25 21:54 ` Vitaly Wool 2010-12-26 2:48 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2010-12-26 2:48 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-26 5:55 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 5:55 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 5:55 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 11:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-26 12:43 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 12:43 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 12:43 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 18:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 19:11 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 19:11 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 19:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 19:21 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 19:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 19:34 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 20:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 20:36 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 19:34 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 18:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-26 14:53 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 18:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-26 18:37 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 19:15 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 20:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 20:04 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 20:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-28 20:41 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 20:41 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 20:41 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 19:15 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 14:53 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-26 11:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-26 17:00 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2010-12-26 17:00 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-28 19:04 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 19:04 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 19:04 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-28 21:46 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-28 21:46 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2010-12-28 21:46 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-29 6:34 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-30 4:25 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-30 4:25 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-30 4:25 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-29 6:34 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-29 8:01 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-29 8:01 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-30 4:30 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-30 4:30 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2010-12-30 4:30 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-26 17:00 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-26 2:48 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-25 16:21 ` Alan Stern 2010-12-25 7:34 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 22:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 15:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 21:20 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern 2010-12-18 23:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-18 23:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki 2010-12-19 10:00 ` [linux-pm] " Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-19 10:00 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen 2010-12-18 21:20 ` Alan Stern
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