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From: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] [RFC] make WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL a config option
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:52:08 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0412180020220.793@scrub.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1103320106.7864.6.camel@localhost>

Hi,

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Dave Hansen wrote:

> > > No.  But, I do think that most of the very basic VM structures do, as it
> > > stands.  That's limited to struct page, zone, and pgdat as I see it
> > > now.  
> > 
> > Why do you want to put these into separate headers?
> 
> It enables you do do static inlines accessing struct page members
> anywhere you want, such as in asm/mmzone.h, like in my example. 

And by that you add more header dependencies.
We have basically this situation:

	foo.h (struct foo; inline foo();) <-> bar.h (struct bar; inline bar();)

Almost every time we had such recursive dependencies, we simply rip one 
element out and put it into a separate header:

	foo.h (inline foo();)
		-> bar.h (struct bar; inline bar();)
			-> foo_struct.h (struct foo;)

Repeat this often enough and we end up with millions of small header 
files. Instead we can reorder everything a little and can do this:

	foo.h (inline foo(); inline bar();)
		-> foo_types.h (struct foo; struct bar;)

In your case don't put the inline functions into asm/mmzone.h and we 
should merge the various definition into fewer header files.

> > > The dependencies aren't very twisted at all.  In fact, I don't think any
> > > of those are deeper than two.  More importantly, I never have to cope
> > > with 'struct page;' keeping me from doing arithmetic. 
> > 
> > You may be surprised. :)
> > Play around with "mkdir test; echo 'obj-y = test.o' > test/Makefile; echo 
> > '#include <linux/foo.h>' > test/test.c; make test/test.i 
> > CFLAGS_test.o=--trace-includes".
> 
> I'm not sure what you're getting at.
> 
> 	make: *** No rule to make target `test/test.i'.  Stop.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that you have to do this inside a kernel tree.

bye, Roman

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] [RFC] make WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL a config option
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:52:08 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0412180020220.793@scrub.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1103320106.7864.6.camel@localhost>

Hi,

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Dave Hansen wrote:

> > > No.  But, I do think that most of the very basic VM structures do, as it
> > > stands.  That's limited to struct page, zone, and pgdat as I see it
> > > now.  
> > 
> > Why do you want to put these into separate headers?
> 
> It enables you do do static inlines accessing struct page members
> anywhere you want, such as in asm/mmzone.h, like in my example. 

And by that you add more header dependencies.
We have basically this situation:

	foo.h (struct foo; inline foo();) <-> bar.h (struct bar; inline bar();)

Almost every time we had such recursive dependencies, we simply rip one 
element out and put it into a separate header:

	foo.h (inline foo();)
		-> bar.h (struct bar; inline bar();)
			-> foo_struct.h (struct foo;)

Repeat this often enough and we end up with millions of small header 
files. Instead we can reorder everything a little and can do this:

	foo.h (inline foo(); inline bar();)
		-> foo_types.h (struct foo; struct bar;)

In your case don't put the inline functions into asm/mmzone.h and we 
should merge the various definition into fewer header files.

> > > The dependencies aren't very twisted at all.  In fact, I don't think any
> > > of those are deeper than two.  More importantly, I never have to cope
> > > with 'struct page;' keeping me from doing arithmetic. 
> > 
> > You may be surprised. :)
> > Play around with "mkdir test; echo 'obj-y = test.o' > test/Makefile; echo 
> > '#include <linux/foo.h>' > test/test.c; make test/test.i 
> > CFLAGS_test.o=--trace-includes".
> 
> I'm not sure what you're getting at.
> 
> 	make: *** No rule to make target `test/test.i'.  Stop.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that you have to do this inside a kernel tree.

bye, Roman
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-18  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-16 21:56 [patch] [RFC] make WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL a config option Dave Hansen
2004-12-16 21:56 ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17  0:36 ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17  0:36   ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17  0:42   ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17  0:42     ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17  0:51     ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17  0:51       ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17  1:14       ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17  1:14         ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17  2:50         ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17  2:50           ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17  4:24           ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17  4:24             ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17 13:26             ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17 13:26               ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17 15:59               ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17 15:59                 ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17 20:27                 ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17 20:27                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17 21:48                   ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17 21:48                     ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-18  0:52                     ` Roman Zippel [this message]
2004-12-18  0:52                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-20 14:49                       ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-20 14:49                         ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-20 20:45                         ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-20 20:45                           ` Roman Zippel
2004-12-17  2:01       ` Dave Hansen
2004-12-17  2:01         ` Dave Hansen

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