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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Avi Fishman <avifishman70@gmail.com>
Cc: Tali Perry <tali.perry1@gmail.com>,
	Tyrone Ting <warp5tw@gmail.com>,
	Tomer Maimon <tmaimon77@gmail.com>,
	Patrick Venture <venture@google.com>,
	Nancy Yuen <yuenn@google.com>,
	Benjamin Fair <benjaminfair@google.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com>,
	yangyicong@hisilicon.com, semen.protsenko@linaro.org,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa@kernel.org>,
	jie.deng@intel.com, sven@svenpeter.dev, bence98@sch.bme.hu,
	Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	olof@lixom.net, Tali Perry <tali.perry@nuvoton.com>,
	Avi Fishman <Avi.Fishman@nuvoton.com>,
	Tomer Maimon <tomer.maimon@nuvoton.com>,
	KWLIU@nuvoton.com, JJLIU0@nuvoton.com, kfting@nuvoton.com,
	OpenBMC Maillist <openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Linux I2C <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/11] i2c: npcm: Handle spurious interrupts
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 10:13:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YkvsB27Oj0kSmJRG@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKKbWA5FyCKTjEUw8rqtkoL7aw6f7Fa_QzcAkgaRnnUMTe0SKg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 04, 2022 at 08:03:44PM +0300, Avi Fishman wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 4:14 PM Andy Shevchenko
> <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 02:48:20PM +0200, Tali Perry wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 12:37 PM Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 04:31:39PM +0800, Tyrone Ting wrote:
> > > > > > From: Tali Perry <tali.perry1@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In order to better handle spurious interrupts:
> > > > > > 1. Disable incoming interrupts in master only mode.
> > > > > > 2. Clear end of busy (EOB) after every interrupt.
> > > > > > 3. Return correct status during interrupt.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is bad commit message, it doesn't explain "why" you are doing these.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > BMC users connect a huge tree of i2c devices and muxes.
> > > This tree suffers from spikes, noise and double clocks.
> > > All these may cause spurious interrupts to the BMC.

(1)

> > > If the driver gets an IRQ which was not expected and was not handled
> > > by the IRQ handler,
> > > there is nothing left to do but to clear the interrupt and move on.
> >
> > Yes, the problem is what "move on" means in your case.
> > If you get a spurious interrupts there are possibilities what's wrong:
> > 1) HW bug(s)
> > 2) FW bug(s)
> > 3) Missed IRQ mask in the driver
> > 4) Improper IRQ mask in the driver
> >
> > The below approach seems incorrect to me.
> 
> Andy, What about this explanation:
> On rare cases the i2c gets a spurious interrupt which means that we
> enter an interrupt but in
> the interrupt handler we don't find any status bit that points to the
> reason we got this interrupt.
> This may be a rare case of HW issue that is still under investigation.
> In order to overcome this we are doing the following:
> 1. Disable incoming interrupts in master mode only when slave mode is
> not enabled.
> 2. Clear end of busy (EOB) after every interrupt.
> 3. Clear other status bits (just in case since we found them cleared)
> 4. Return correct status during the interrupt that will finish the transaction.
> On next xmit transaction if the bus is still busy the master will
> issue a recovery process before issuing the new transaction.

This sounds better, thanks.

One thing to clarify, the (1) states that the HW "issue" is known and becomes a
PCB level one, i.e. noisy environment that has not been properly shielded.
So, if it is known, please put the reason in the commit message.

Also would be good to see numbers of "rare". Is it 0.1%?

> > > If the transaction failed, driver has a recovery function.
> > > After that, user may retry to send the message.
> > >
> > > Indeed the commit message doesn't explain all this.
> > > We will fix and add to the next patchset.
> > >
> > > > > > +     /*
> > > > > > +      * if irq is not one of the above, make sure EOB is disabled and all
> > > > > > +      * status bits are cleared.
> > > > >
> > > > > This does not explain why you hide the spurious interrupt.
> > > > >
> > > > > > +      */

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Avi Fishman <avifishman70@gmail.com>
Cc: Tomer Maimon <tmaimon77@gmail.com>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tali Perry <tali.perry1@gmail.com>,
	Linux I2C <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Fair <benjaminfair@google.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com>,
	OpenBMC Maillist <openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	JJLIU0@nuvoton.com, Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com>,
	Tomer Maimon <tomer.maimon@nuvoton.com>,
	KWLIU@nuvoton.com, bence98@sch.bme.hu,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	sven@svenpeter.dev, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Avi Fishman <Avi.Fishman@nuvoton.com>,
	Tyrone Ting <warp5tw@gmail.com>,
	yangyicong@hisilicon.com, semen.protsenko@linaro.org,
	jie.deng@intel.com, Patrick Venture <venture@google.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa@kernel.org>,
	kfting@nuvoton.com, Tali Perry <tali.perry@nuvoton.com>,
	olof@lixom.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/11] i2c: npcm: Handle spurious interrupts
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 10:13:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YkvsB27Oj0kSmJRG@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKKbWA5FyCKTjEUw8rqtkoL7aw6f7Fa_QzcAkgaRnnUMTe0SKg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 04, 2022 at 08:03:44PM +0300, Avi Fishman wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 4:14 PM Andy Shevchenko
> <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 02:48:20PM +0200, Tali Perry wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 12:37 PM Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 04:31:39PM +0800, Tyrone Ting wrote:
> > > > > > From: Tali Perry <tali.perry1@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In order to better handle spurious interrupts:
> > > > > > 1. Disable incoming interrupts in master only mode.
> > > > > > 2. Clear end of busy (EOB) after every interrupt.
> > > > > > 3. Return correct status during interrupt.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is bad commit message, it doesn't explain "why" you are doing these.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > BMC users connect a huge tree of i2c devices and muxes.
> > > This tree suffers from spikes, noise and double clocks.
> > > All these may cause spurious interrupts to the BMC.

(1)

> > > If the driver gets an IRQ which was not expected and was not handled
> > > by the IRQ handler,
> > > there is nothing left to do but to clear the interrupt and move on.
> >
> > Yes, the problem is what "move on" means in your case.
> > If you get a spurious interrupts there are possibilities what's wrong:
> > 1) HW bug(s)
> > 2) FW bug(s)
> > 3) Missed IRQ mask in the driver
> > 4) Improper IRQ mask in the driver
> >
> > The below approach seems incorrect to me.
> 
> Andy, What about this explanation:
> On rare cases the i2c gets a spurious interrupt which means that we
> enter an interrupt but in
> the interrupt handler we don't find any status bit that points to the
> reason we got this interrupt.
> This may be a rare case of HW issue that is still under investigation.
> In order to overcome this we are doing the following:
> 1. Disable incoming interrupts in master mode only when slave mode is
> not enabled.
> 2. Clear end of busy (EOB) after every interrupt.
> 3. Clear other status bits (just in case since we found them cleared)
> 4. Return correct status during the interrupt that will finish the transaction.
> On next xmit transaction if the bus is still busy the master will
> issue a recovery process before issuing the new transaction.

This sounds better, thanks.

One thing to clarify, the (1) states that the HW "issue" is known and becomes a
PCB level one, i.e. noisy environment that has not been properly shielded.
So, if it is known, please put the reason in the commit message.

Also would be good to see numbers of "rare". Is it 0.1%?

> > > If the transaction failed, driver has a recovery function.
> > > After that, user may retry to send the message.
> > >
> > > Indeed the commit message doesn't explain all this.
> > > We will fix and add to the next patchset.
> > >
> > > > > > +     /*
> > > > > > +      * if irq is not one of the above, make sure EOB is disabled and all
> > > > > > +      * status bits are cleared.
> > > > >
> > > > > This does not explain why you hide the spurious interrupt.
> > > > >
> > > > > > +      */

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-05  7:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-03  8:31 [PATCH v3 00/11] i2c: npcm: Bug fixes timeout, spurious interrupts Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31 ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] arm: dts: add new property for NPCM i2c module Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-18 20:28   ` Wolfram Sang
2022-03-18 20:28     ` Wolfram Sang
2022-03-20  9:34     ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-20  9:42       ` Wolfram Sang
2022-03-20  9:42         ` Wolfram Sang
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] dt-bindings: i2c: npcm: support NPCM845 Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03 10:37   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-03 10:37     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-04 13:30     ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-04 13:30       ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] i2c: npcm: Fix client address calculation Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03 10:30   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 10:30     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-04 13:39     ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-04 13:39       ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] i2c: npcm: Change the way of getting GCR regmap Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03 10:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-03 10:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-04 13:32     ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-04 13:32       ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] i2c: npcm: Remove unused variable clk_regmap Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] i2c: npcm: Fix timeout calculation Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] i2c: npcm: Add tx complete counter Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] i2c: npcm: Correct register access width Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03 10:33   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 10:33     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 12:54     ` Tali Perry
2022-03-03 12:54       ` Tali Perry
2022-03-03 14:15       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 14:15         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-04 20:42         ` Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-03-04 20:42           ` Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-03-22 17:18           ` Avi Fishman
2022-03-22 17:18             ` Avi Fishman
2022-03-22 17:51             ` Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-03-22 17:51               ` Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] i2c: npcm: Handle spurious interrupts Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03 10:36   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 10:36     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 12:48     ` Tali Perry
2022-03-03 12:48       ` Tali Perry
2022-03-03 14:13       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 14:13         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-04-04 17:03         ` Avi Fishman
2022-04-04 17:03           ` Avi Fishman
2022-04-05  7:13           ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2022-04-05  7:13             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-04-10  7:33             ` Avi Fishman
2022-04-10  7:33               ` Avi Fishman
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] i2c: npcm: Remove own slave addresses 2:10 Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] i2c: npcm: Support NPCM845 Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03  8:31   ` Tyrone Ting
2022-03-03 10:43   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 10:43     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 12:35     ` Tali Perry
2022-03-03 12:35       ` Tali Perry
2022-03-03 14:10       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 14:10         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-06 13:33         ` Tomer Maimon
2022-03-07  9:43           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-07  9:43             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-07 19:47             ` Tomer Maimon
2022-03-03 10:26 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] i2c: npcm: Bug fixes timeout, spurious interrupts Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 10:26   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-03-03 13:03   ` Tali Perry
2022-03-03 13:03     ` Tali Perry

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